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[azerSheppard]

It's something, and as it stands they cant **** IT UP more than it already is so I'm definetly going to download it, as it's free, I know it will be sub-standard AT BEST.
But really sub-standard>ME3 ending.

[SpaceXDebris]

They are just digging themselves into a deeper hole. No, Bioware, you are not really listening. This artistic integrity thing is childish.

[Zuka999]

Hammer6767 wrote...

I love how so many people on this forum jump to extreme conclusions. Seriously, can't some of you just accept that they are expanding on the ending (they didn't have to) and are trying to appease most folks who are angry (again, didn't have to)??

How about you wait and see what this thing is going to look like before the hate fest. My god I hope you don't act this way in person!

They do have to if they expect to stay in business.

[free17]

The one thing we know is that the ending will not remain as it is now, and really, could anything they do make the current ending WORSE? I don't think so.

[Uriko128]

I'm happy they won't change the ending. I was afraid they would commit such an stupid act just to please the masses.

I'm also happy they hear the fans and admit they have to add more closure and clarity to the end of the saga.

[Waccoo]

The Divine Avenger wrote...

Waccoo wrote...

I am really unsure about this solution :/

But well, let's just wait and see. And for all we know, this theory about that the last part being a dream could still be true, i'm not talking about indoctrination, but just a simple dream/vision/hallucination since they say they didnt change the ending at all.

And about that part where Shepard wakes up in rubble.. well, that could just be a hint for a fourth game in the series, maybe a beginning of a new triology about Reapers still trying to conquer everything. Think about it like in Terminator 3. Everything ends, and there is still a small resistance.

But yeah, who knows, this is just some wild guesses I have.
I mean, we thought we would destroy the reapers in this game, one by one, we wanted to annihilate every single one of them, and not just watch ships shoot at them, and maybe we get to do that, more like a long war against reapers.

We all know something is up since we get hints after hints, and Bioware wants us to "hold on to the game forever" etc etc.

But as I wrote before, some of my wild guesses, everything could also be wrong

Of course they'll say stuff like "If you knew what we had planned you'd hold onto your copy of Mass Effect 3 forever" they want us to buy DLC. Considering that everything they told us up to the release date was utter bulls*** I can't believe you'd be willing to jump onboard so quickly.

Yes, you have a point, and I was not saying that I am jumping onboard that train, I'm just saying that, I like to keep the little hope there is left, for a game we all here love/loved so damn much.

[doodiebody]

Obviously it's not fair to judge something I haven't even seen, but what they've posted isn't promising.

If the endings still include nonsensical synthesis space magic, I'm done. They can keep their "artistic integrity." In return, I'll keep my "would have been spent on ME3 DLC" money.

Modifié par doodiebody, 06 avril 2012 - 12:55 .

[KingKhan03]

[FatalX7.0]

KingKhan03 wrote...

Love it.

[Zuka999]

free17 wrote...

The one thing we know is that the ending will not remain as it is now, and really, could anything they do make the current ending WORSE? I don't think so.

Yes. Keeping it after we've made it clear we hate it is pretty god awful. Expecting us to like crap we didn't like a few months before just because they polished it up and added more crap to it is just insulting. We wanted something drastically different to this.. we wanted what we were promised.

[free17]

Ok, this is funny:

"Harbinger The Reaper ‏ @HarbyTheReaper
NOW I REMEBERED WHY I HATE ORGANICS. THEY DON'T APPRECIATE MY GENIUS ARTISTIC VISION. I SHOULD WORK IN EA. THEY WILL UNDERSTAND."

[DarkShadow]

*Twilight Sparkle voice*
"THIS IS MY ART AND I'M GONNA KEEP IT."

You guys see this wrong, the ending isn't bad writing or a problem with a misunderstood artistic vision, it's the other 150+ hours of the game that is badly written.

[Tleining]

free17 wrote...

The one thing we know is that the ending will not remain as it is now, and really, could anything they do make the current ending WORSE? I don't think so.

more space magic
"two weeks after the end of the Reaper War, the Fleet managed to set up a working Mass Relay Connection between Earth and Thessia"

[MsKlaussen]

Hammer6767 wrote...

free17 wrote...

People seem to be drawing a ton of conclusions from an intentionally vague press release and even more vague "blog post." If we're being honest with ourselves, we don't know what will or will not be in the "Extended Cut" yet, so why pass judgement before finding out something more about what we're getting.

Apparently because on the BSN, when an angry, irrational mob arises, all logic and sense go out the window for 

If this DLC does away with the multiplayer misunderstanding at the crux of my dissatisfaction, I will re-evaluate. I will take you at your word that you can find something "irrational" about that approach, though I remain dubious.

Are we really "being honest with ourselves" when "we" imply that we've been given no reason to believe that the aforementioned multiplayer gaffe has not been solved with the DLC or in fact actually rejected as an issue requiring a solution?

https://encrypted-tb...TKCjDMyN3gINpvA

[The Mercenary55]

A small beam of light in the overwhelming darkness. I hope this delivers and makes my experience more satisfying. Atleast their listening, theres still hope.

[Direwolf0294]

To be honest I don't care at all about clarity and closure for the current ending we get. I want a whole new ending. One that doesn't feature the stupid deus ex godchild and the universe getting screwed because of the relays blowing up. I also want a happy ending for Shepard, which seems impossible given the current endings because even if you pick destroy and Shepard lives you're still going to be cut off from your crew, who landed god knows where, and will have to live with the guilt and consequences of whiping out the Geth and your friend EDI. I can't imagine Joker will ever talk to you again, assuming you ever see him again.

[Madcat 124]

 Alright, so this is actually rather nice to hear. I do still want another ending, unless this clarification is actually really intricate.

[darthclide]

AkeasharK wrote...

Tocquevillain wrote...

Alexander Kogan wrote...

As long as BioWare also writes the Dark Energy plot back in as well then I'll be happy. Karpyshyn's plot-line regarding the Reapers and Dark Energy made a lot more sense since it was ALWAYS hinted at in the first two games (remember Haestrum). And the Dark Energy crisis was an ORIGINAL idea that we have never seen before.  The machine vs organic crap that we got spoonfed by the starchild was cliched, overused and made zero sense.

This was never quoetd in ME1, was it? No one ever presents proof from ME1 when they mention this ,they say "IT WAS IN ME1/ME2, REMMEBER HAESTRUM?". Or was Haestrum in the ME1 codex?

Haestrum is indeed ME2 onry. And the Dark Energy ending 'We must wipe out all humanity to save the universe from these Dark Energy Crises that happen once every 50,000 years because people keep using these Mass Relays we just happened to keep lying around' is just mindblowingly awful. Offer up the sacrifice on the bloody altar of an entire species to make the space Apocalypse go away for another 50,000 years? Its Fatal Frame... IN SPACE! Why didn't they just... y'know. Destroy the relays that are causing it? Owait.

And I do not, under any circumstances want a happy, everything wrapped up in a bow with flowers and Star Wars Award Ceremony epilogue. War, Sacrifice and Survival do not usually end with all things well and happy, or would folks prefer the ending of Saving Private Ryan to changed as well so that the entire squad ends up back in the US for medals and champagne?

I thought the dark energy plot wasn't related to the relays, but had to do with reaping civilizations to "ward off" the dark energy. I assumed this was done in combat in some way? Even if that isn't what Karpyshyn wanted, I truly believe that what I just said is a brilliant idea. They have been harvesting us all this time, due to a snow-ball effect that was started by the first "reaping", and they are hoping that eventually that snowball will be so large that they can stop the dark energy. Supposedly humans are the key that would end it for good (no matter how big the "snowball" is currently). Thus, the reason for a human reaper.

[Peranor]

free17 wrote...

The one thing we know is that the ending will not remain as it is now, and really, could anything they do make the current ending WORSE? I don't think so.

You have a point. But then again you never know

I actually feel a bit of pity for BioWare right now. Seems like whatever they try to do at this point it just backfires.
I mean, at least they are trying. The fact that they even announced this explanation DLC proves that they've acknowledged that the endings wasn't so "epic" and "awsome" as they first thought.
Though I will probably wonder for the rest of my life how they possibly could think that this was a good way to end the series

I don't see how a explanation DLC can improve upon the current ending. We still have spacebrat and RGB fireworks. And as long as those are still a part of the ending, it can never be a good ending.
But since they want to torch the franchise I guess they have to come up with something to end it all. Personally I think it would have been better to just let the Reapers wipe out the galaxy though.

But, as I said, they are at least trying.

I'll just calm down for now and wait to see what they have in store. Albeit with a fair amount of scepticism

[Primalrose]

How about not fundamnetally changing the endings, but actually adding more distinct endings just as advertised? Keep the basic 3 we already have, but add more. Bioware can keep their "artistic integreity and fans will be happier will more options as well as clarity.

[Urazz]

Personally, this is exactly what I expected. I didn't expect any additional endings and if anything is changed at all it'll be minor (i.e. the Normandy crash and the crew being on it.). I really just expected more clarification.

[Pfor]

IsaacShep wrote...

Some promising Tweets from Mike Gamble:

https://twitter.com/...928555408211968

Extended cut was one of the things I alluded to. We are working our butts off to make this amazing, gratifying, and over to you ASAP.

https://twitter.com/...929762017193984

@GambleMike Not gonna lie, we do appreciate the effort. Still kind of worried that Meer/Hale have said they weren't contacted for VA yet...

don't worry. All that is in the works

https://twitter.com/...042687893610496

@GambleMike so from the press release I'm understanding all the dlc will be is a few cinematics? Thats not what most wanted....

no. It won't just be a 'few cinematics'

https://twitter.com/...045946754564096

@GambleMike easier than fixing what's really broke. I hear you're not even including voice actors??? How will this take months?

@CoPilotRogerM you heard wrong.

Especially the one about Extended Cut not being "just a few cinematics" makes me excited

Oh, don't post anything that might impugn on the massive pity/anger party going on here. If people can't complain about Bioware whatever will they do?

[Creylon]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

Love it.

I'll second that 

[rivqa]

KingKhan03 wrote...

Indeed.

I'm trying to stay optimistic, but I'm bracing myself for a LOT of space magic. I don't think I'll download until I've checked in here... totally not my usual MO, but I just can't bear it otherwise.

[Kamuchi]

Pfor wrote...

Oh, don't post anything that might impugn on the massive pity/anger party going on here. If people can't complain about Bioware whatever will they do?

Complain about EA and their bull magic