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[TheGreenAlloy]

1490 wrote...

dumbblonde-lms2002 on deviantart made a really funny picture representing the endings that I feel needed to be shared.  (WARNING: contains M-rated punchline)

dumbblonde-lms2002.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4v28zk

lol!

[Kamuchi]

liquiddemon wrote...

AI is very much a part of mass effect. So why would a super advanced Ai that controls the reapers be wierd?

Cause it came out of no where while we fought Souvrein, talked with Harbinger and then the destroyer class on Rannoch say that Harbinger mentioned Shepard, heck, he even tried to kill us at the magic beam but all we got was space magic instead of telling Harbinger he was an **** and that we were going to kick his ass

Modifié par Kamuchi, 06 avril 2012 - 01:52 .

[TheGreenAlloy]

BadlyBrowned wrote...

liquiddemon wrote...

Why is indoctrination acceptable lore but a super advanced AI that happens to take the form of a human child doeznt make sense. In a make believe universe with all kinds of unreal technology anything fits the lore.

Becaues Indoctrination has been established since the begining of the series. Indoctrination has propper foreshadowing and reinforcement throughout, while Star Brat shows up in the last 10 minutes of the game. 

Indoctrination Theory = few plotholes

Me3 edning as is = many plotholes

[K0M154R]

mass perfection wrote...

KaeserZen wrote...

This summer, seriously ?

Well, I hope it's for the best...

Because it takes a long time to just make a 30 min long cutscene.
/Sarcasm

Especially when fans churn them out like sausages. I wonder how personalized it will be, if at all. The sterile ending we have, complemented by an equally sterile closure/intro-to-the-basics-of-magic, well, we all know how that's going to feel...

[liquiddemon]

I dont deny that AIchild'S current explanation is lacking. Im just saying and advanced AI in the form of a child is not out of place.

It just needs to be explained better.

[Zuka999]

The thing is.. the Reapers aren't even synthetics. No one seems to remember the conversation where Legion says the Reapers are, "Transcended flesh. Billions of organic minds uploaded and conjoined in immortal machine bodies. Each a nation."

The repercussions of this are enormous. No AI could control a Reaper in this context. Indoctrination takes time and energy. No way anything has the power to indoctrinate billions of people simultaneously.. let alone thousands of Reapers!

[schwarzaj]

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Why are poeple still complaining when we don't know what the DLC will even contain, and that it's FREE? Who can possibly say with 100% certainty that Bioware can't fix this? Give it a rest already! Let them do their jobs! Heads up high! We are getting a FREE dlc from a company that makes money off of us. This is the first time this happens in gaming history, guys. Wait and see. When we know exactly what it's going to contain, we can have legitimate complaints then. As it stands, all complaints about this are... wait for it... SPECULATIVE complaints!

They already came out and said what the DLC has and DOESN'T have. What the DLC does is  just add more cut scenes and epilog stuff. It doesn't change the stupid ABC ending. There blowing us off and are using the "artistic integrety" argument as an excuse to cover up their crap ending. We haven't won anything. This is just bioware extending their already crap ending.

[chevyguy87]

Like Garrus said "And if you call them a task force it sounds like you've done something about it"

Like Bioware just announced "And if we give you a slideshow with text for FREE it looks like we've done something about it"

[kalasaurus]

This news actually makes me kind of happy. I don't want to go through 100+ pages of this thread, but any news on if they are going to add closure to the squad? Still stranded on Jurassic Park? Can Shepard find them if she lives? Will they get the squad VA for this?

Is this DLC interactive? It seemed kind of vague in these announcements. Is it just cutscenes?

Modifié par GlassElephant, 06 avril 2012 - 01:57 .

[Axolotl Shepard]

We did it, by god, we have done it people. After all the days of holding the line, tweeting, and so on, we have made them listen. Everyone deserves to know they were a part of history.

[RiouHotaru]

Terror_K wrote...

So... how exactly did, "clean up the vile excrement that is the ME3 endings" get translated into, "smear and spread the vile excrement that is the ME3 endings even further" to you guys, BioWare?

I mean seriously... what is it with you guys ignoring the specifics of feedback so utterly and always "fixing" things in the stupidest manner possible. This is the same type of follow-up that resulted in all the half-assed, non-solutions we've already got from you in the past. I'm not so much surprised since it fits your pattern as of late, but more frustrated at the sheer stupidity of it and that it has continuously happened this long now. It seems you guys do absolutely nothing but demonstrate with every passing week and month that you guys not only simply don't learn and don't seem to even want to learn.

If that clearly rushed job ending that contradicts itself, logic and previous comments about where this series was going is "Artistic Integrity" in your eyes, then all is lost. I mean... come on! Clarification and that's it? Adding more crap to crap doesn't change the fact that it's crap, nor does any amount of window-dressing. Unless the indoctrination theory is true and you guys are running with that for explaining all the problems with ME3's final moments, then all you're creating is a pointless waste. You might as well create a garbage-making machine.

Because you assume it was rushed, or contradicts itself, etc, etc.  Once again, you're jumping the gun.  Just like everyone else.

[RiouHotaru]

schwarzaj wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Why are poeple still complaining when we don't know what the DLC will even contain, and that it's FREE? Who can possibly say with 100% certainty that Bioware can't fix this? Give it a rest already! Let them do their jobs! Heads up high! We are getting a FREE dlc from a company that makes money off of us. This is the first time this happens in gaming history, guys. Wait and see. When we know exactly what it's going to contain, we can have legitimate complaints then. As it stands, all complaints about this are... wait for it... SPECULATIVE complaints!

They already came out and said what the DLC has and DOESN'T have. What the DLC does is  just add more cut scenes and epilog stuff. It doesn't change the stupid ABC ending. There blowing us off and are using the "artistic integrety" argument as an excuse to cover up their crap ending. We haven't won anything. This is just bioware extending their already crap ending.

if you expected them to completely redo the endings, you were delusional.

[Zix13]

liquiddemon wrote...

Why is indoctrination acceptable lore but a super advanced AI that happens to take the form of a human child doeznt make sense. In a make believe universe with all kinds of unreal technology anything fits the lore.

Actually the most idiotic post I've seen in a long time. Indoctrination is established in me1. Godchild is established in 5 minutes/14 lines. 

[chevyguy87]

Axolotl Shepard wrote...

We did it, by god, we have done it people. After all the days of holding the line, tweeting, and so on, we have made them listen. Everyone deserves to know they were a part of history.

for all we know this whole nightmare couldve been in the books for quite some time now it doesnt mean they listened it just means theyre attempting to appease us and keep us quiet to try to minimize financial loses I have a feeling that tomorrow at PAX is when the crap will hit the preverbial fan DEPENDING on what they say to extinguish this out of control forest fire theyve created

[-PG-Skyre]

Bioware, you've reached a whole new level of fail with this.
"Listening" my ass. If you were listening, you'd have added the other 13 endings which we were promised (and make sure they all make sense). And no, color choices does not make an ending different, so that doesn't count.

I hear the Witcher 2 is releasing a free huge overhaul with all their DLC + New ending content + heaps of other content...oh, they are doing that without being asked and its FREE.
Gonna go buy a 2nd copy of it, cause they deserve it.

[TheGreenAlloy]

GlassElephant wrote...

This news actually makes me kind of happy. I don't want to go through 100+ pages of this thread, but any news on if they are going to add closure to the squad? Still stranded on Jurassic Park? Can Shepard find them if she lives? Will they get the squad VA for this?

Is this DLC interactive? It seemed kind of vague in these announcements. Is it just cutscenes?

They said it's possible. Still, this is a "maybe". They're known to lie about things like "yes" and "certainly".

[xtroguyver]

Is it so much to ask to have multiple endings like we were originally promised during development instead of the one crappy fit all ending we have at the moment that has enough plot holes to fit the moon in

[BigZ7337]

Meh, this is just a heartless PR move.

[-PG-Skyre]

RiouHotaru wrote...

if you expected them to completely redo the endings, you were delusional.

Not redo, just add more endings.


As for the "artistic integrity" lines;
CD Projekt RED - Witcher 2 Enhanced (with added ending content, without being asked to do it).
Bathesda - Fallout 3 New Ending (Done due to a smaller backlash then ME3s).
They've been EAed, thats all. So now, my money goes elsewhere.

[shepskisaac]

KingKhan03 wrote...

Because Harbinger and Sovereign state they have no beginning

That would make them God(s). Yeah, no. I will take spacebrat over freaking God(s)

[MetalCargo999]

RiouHotaru wrote...

schwarzaj wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Why are poeple still complaining when we don't know what the DLC will even contain, and that it's FREE? Who can possibly say with 100% certainty that Bioware can't fix this? Give it a rest already! Let them do their jobs! Heads up high! We are getting a FREE dlc from a company that makes money off of us. This is the first time this happens in gaming history, guys. Wait and see. When we know exactly what it's going to contain, we can have legitimate complaints then. As it stands, all complaints about this are... wait for it... SPECULATIVE complaints!

They already came out and said what the DLC has and DOESN'T have. What the DLC does is  just add more cut scenes and epilog stuff. It doesn't change the stupid ABC ending. There blowing us off and are using the "artistic integrety" argument as an excuse to cover up their crap ending. We haven't won anything. This is just bioware extending their already crap ending.

if you expected them to completely redo the endings, you were delusional.

They didn't get into specifics, so no, we don't know.  It's even possible that they can fix it.  Just because we can't figure out how doesn't mean there isn't a way out that they can see, and since they haven't told us what that way out is yet, our complaints remain speculative, and we are guilty of doing exactly what we didn't want to be doing after the original ending that started this whole thing in the first place.  

[wesr]

RiouHotaru wrote...

schwarzaj wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Why are poeple still complaining when we don't know what the DLC will even contain, and that it's FREE? Who can possibly say with 100% certainty that Bioware can't fix this? Give it a rest already! Let them do their jobs! Heads up high! We are getting a FREE dlc from a company that makes money off of us. This is the first time this happens in gaming history, guys. Wait and see. When we know exactly what it's going to contain, we can have legitimate complaints then. As it stands, all complaints about this are... wait for it... SPECULATIVE complaints!

They already came out and said what the DLC has and DOESN'T have. What the DLC does is  just add more cut scenes and epilog stuff. It doesn't change the stupid ABC ending. There blowing us off and are using the "artistic integrety" argument as an excuse to cover up their crap ending. We haven't won anything. This is just bioware extending their already crap ending.

if you expected them to completely redo the endings, you were delusional.

I'm expecting an expansion like Broken Steel not more lies and insults to the paying public but we know that's all we'll get from them.

[garrus and ashley squad]

glad its free bioware you just saved a customer.

[Terror_K]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Because you assume it was rushed, or contradicts itself, etc, etc.  Once again, you're jumping the gun.  Just like everyone else.

But it does and was. If it wasn't rushed, then BioWare are in even worse shape than I thought.  And that's really saying something these days.

But if you want to set yourself up for disappointment with your delusions that BioWare is doing anything more than throwing more faeces at us and spreading it further like a group of jabbering monkeys who never listen because they're too busy screeching and hooting, then by all means.

Axolotl Shepard wrote...

We did it, by god, we have done
it people. After all the days of holding the line, tweeting, and so on,
we have made them listen. Everyone deserves to know they were a part of
history.

No, they didn't listen. That's pretty damn evident. This is little more than a PR stunt combined with them essentially putting a small Band-Aid on the stump of a franchise that's been decapitated and them calling it a solution.

[MetalCargo999]

wesr wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

schwarzaj wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Why are poeple still complaining when we don't know what the DLC will even contain, and that it's FREE? Who can possibly say with 100% certainty that Bioware can't fix this? Give it a rest already! Let them do their jobs! Heads up high! We are getting a FREE dlc from a company that makes money off of us. This is the first time this happens in gaming history, guys. Wait and see. When we know exactly what it's going to contain, we can have legitimate complaints then. As it stands, all complaints about this are... wait for it... SPECULATIVE complaints!

They already came out and said what the DLC has and DOESN'T have. What the DLC does is  just add more cut scenes and epilog stuff. It doesn't change the stupid ABC ending. There blowing us off and are using the "artistic integrety" argument as an excuse to cover up their crap ending. We haven't won anything. This is just bioware extending their already crap ending.

if you expected them to completely redo the endings, you were delusional.

I'm expecting an expansion like Broken Steel not more lies and insults to the paying public but we know that's all we'll get from them.

It's FREE.