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[jimbo32]

It seems some people are taking this info as proof that BioWare listened and that the Retake group "won". That's not how I see it at all.

I don't think they listened to anything that we said. NOTHING. I don't think the writers/producers read so much as a single forum post. What I believe they did respond to was the negative media attention and *maybe* the fairly quick price drops at retailers.

Obviously, we don't yet completely know what the "Extended Cut" will consist of, but if it's what it sounds like, it seems to me that it's just something for BioWare/EA to point to as they tell the gaming media "SEE! We listen to our fans!!!". Rather than fan service, I think it's just another PR exercise.

[Bomma72]

The Big Palooka wrote...

Oh my lord.

What if they add a fifty years later epilogue that shows the Normandy crew now all old and nostalgic sitting on their jungle colony.

I will throw a tantrum and never stop for the rest of my adult life.

I hate to say it but I would put money on that.   Seem's like this was there "vision".  

[Esoretal]

Sundance31us wrote...

Hihoshi101 wrote...

This is fake guys!!!!

HERE is the real EA News site... I

There is no new news there and Why would they post this before PAX where why plan to have BIG news

Will wait till tomorrow to give up hope

• Click the link in the quote above...
• Scroll down to EA.com and click "Investor Relations"
• Scroll down to "Recent Press Releases"
• Go to Apr 5, 2012 and click "BioWare Announces Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut

Weird. Kind of a sneaky way to announce it before PAX.

Well, whatever.

[cuzsal]

LTKerr wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

"expand upon the events at the end"

Also, this.

more space

[Jeb231]

ElSwordio wrote...

Well IMHO this clarifies two things:

1. They were never planning some elaborate ending replacement scheme (i.e. indoctrination theory not canon)
2. They were genuinely surprised people were unhappy - so much so that instead of being open to the idea of alternate endings, they want to explain the current one(s) more. Which is fine but feels a bit more like they're saying we just didn't get it....

Or they could simply think the story works but the implentation was rushed/poorly executed.

Modifié par Jeb231, 05 avril 2012 - 02:52 .

[Mannie89]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Ah yes. "Clarity and closure." We have dismissed this claim.

This

[Lord Jaric]

At least it is something, I hold my judgement until I've seen the extended cut

[bas_kon]

The emo people get their clarified sad doom and gloom endings, but what about people who DON'T wanna be depressed at the end and have a happy ending option for Shepard?

These sacrifice endings don't match my main Shepard' personality and story, no matter what others tell me about the characters I play.

[TheAwesomologist]

schnydz wrote...

ElSwordio wrote...

Well IMHO this clarifies two things:

1. They were never planning some elaborate ending replacement scheme (i.e. indoctrination theory not canon)
2. They were genuinely surprised people were unhappy - so much so that instead of being open to the idea of alternate endings, they want to explain the current one(s) more. Which is fine but feels a bit more like they're saying we just didn't get it....

3. In respect to number 2 above, they may have planned the ending for a reason. ME4

I'm not sure if people realize this but the 3 endings are different enough that there really can't be an ME4 that takes place AFTER the events of ME3.

[stysiaq]

confirmed via Twitter by Priestly, among others.

Even if that DLC is going to clarify all this crappy ending, it probably won't satisfy majority of upset fans. The ones which are happy with poor writing, or maybe those who just wan't Normandy scene explained, will be probably satisfied.

However, all this outrage came rather from the people who wan't the ending re-written, not explained.

For me, IT was that middle ground (I wasn't a fan of it, but it was some way to render spacekid unreal), but BioWare is too proud to do that. They'll stick to this nonsensical quasi-choice you're given, and tell you just WHY you were abandoned by your crew, WHY your squaddies teleported (or - even more possible - actually FIX that plothole by coding different default squaddies out of the Normandy) and so on.

But, after all, the full list of questions is still here. They can address these questions in those sequences/cut-scenes.

[Thalador]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

"You're getting more of our amazing starchild vision. We're adding some dialogue-free cutscenes and text walls to explain how right our plothole-filled mess is. It's free because we're not really doing much and we're not changing anything in-game, but it's going to take us until "sometime in Summer" because goodwill is more valuable than the further disappointment you'll have when you realize this is all you're getting. Until then, we're going to make it sound awesome so maybe you guys will be relieved enough that our Aria DLC won't be take too big of a hit in sales."

Quoted for THE Truth.

Btw, this is my official response to this EC thing (especially this Forbes post):

"Victory? Victory, you say? Master Forbes/BSN, not victory. The shroud of EA has fallen. Begun *coughEndedcough*, the BioWar(e) has!"

 

Modifié par Thalador, 05 avril 2012 - 02:55 .

[Beti88]

"through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes"

So, let me get this straight:

No gameplay whatsoever
Godchild and space magic still there
Galactic civilisations still screwed
All progress uniting the galaxy still rendered pointless
Turians and Quarians still starve to death
Key themes of the franchise (choice, beating odds, tolerance, forgetting differences for a common goal) still negated

Ten years of loyal support...

Good bye BioWare, I'm off to the Bay again

Modifié par Beti88, 05 avril 2012 - 02:56 .

[Darth Asriel]

Dear BW,

Clarification isn't going to help salvage this mess. Were you evenpaying attention to ourcomplaints? Your ending was poorly written and the execution was even worse. I don't need clarification about Star-Jar, I need to he able to tell him to **** off! I want to beat the reapers and not genocide the people Shepard cares about. I want you tostop phoning this in!!!!


Still Holding the fraking Line!!!

[shepskisaac]

Esoretal wrote...

[*]Weird. Kind of a sneaky way to announce it before PAX.

Well, whatever.

How is releasing an official announcement to press agencies a sneaky way lololol?

[Trikormadenadon]

N7 Bravo wrote...

i would like it so that they indoctrination theory is true and if you defeated it you wake up at that breathing scene and then bioware can make an ending from that

Their statement does not make this impossible. Just won't be any new gameplay involved other that MAYBE dialogue choices.

[VAIOMANIAC]

I am not sure what to make of this I mean more cinematics really ??
I am more worried now than ever before hmm don´t like the sound of this.

[Voods07]

 If clarification TRULY means clarification; then thank you Bioware. If this is executed well then you have my business agian.

[Johanna]

Sublyminal wrote...

I'm sorry but is there no pleasing you little ****es? The retake movement was never about getting endings changed, it was to clarify what the **** just happened. Now you got a bunch of babies crying because they think bioware didn't listen.

Haha.  You might want to have a peek at your own sig, brah.

[Lawliet89]

I am cautiously relieved about this. I think we should all tame our expectations and be prepared for this DLC to be just simply cutscenes that expand upon the ending.

[cutegigi]

WE_Belisarius wrote...

So, BioWare didnt listen...
I highly doubt, that they can bring any sense with this DLC into the last 5 minutes.
You can´t paint a pile of crap yellow and then say it is pure gold.
I will stick with my own end then.

i highly recommend the comic in my sig for headcanon ending. they are awesome.

[kyg_20X6]

I hope this isn't the last we hear of it for a while either. I mean, since the endings we've had very little dialogue with BioWare besides 'wait 'til April'. Now we're told to 'wait 'til Summer'. I hope the devs, CMs, etc, are more willing to talk now and give us more details about this content. More months of silence is not going to be good for anyone.

[ShadowAussie]

3 months due to make the extented version. how the hell??? will you have enough time for voice casting jennifer hale said she hasn't heard anything from bioware so EA might be trying to stir everyone up!!!! I'd say wait until 6th april and see what they have to say live!!!

[Myskal1981]

Could we just wait what this Extended Cut will actually do?
What many are doing here right now is SPECULATE. Didn't we all agree that we wanted to stop and we wanted less of that?

Right now we should feel happy, because
Bioware and EA reacted
They release more content for free
They actually take some time to do it

I understand the skepticism, but they could have also just said: you get nothing, that's it.

I for one will accept the endings if a significant amount of open questions is clarified. Will I like it? Probably not, but I will respect the writers choice. At least I hope they learned a lesson that "Lots of speculation for everyone" is actually not a good idea in the first place.

[Aquilas]

Note to Casey Hudson and Mac Walters: I applaud your response to dissatisfied fans; it shows you truly are listening. But before you get too far into the development process, please watch this video (yes, it's been posted before, but it frames my post here):

Mass Effect 3 Ending: Tasteful, Understated Nerdrage

You simply must acknowledge that the ending, as presented, is beyond clarification or placing in context. It can't be done. MrBtongue has some cogent, pertinent suggestions for you.

An epilogue showing how your choices played out after the Reapers' destruction is a great idea, but artistry doesn't preclude showing Shepard frolicking with little blue babies, or having drinks with Jacob on the Citadel, or watching Tali and the Geth rebuild Rannoch. The ending doesn't necessarily have to be "angsty," especially if the Twitch ending is a valid option.

I understand there’s a great deal of work in making a DLC like this, but doing it right will more than cover the sunk costs. Doing it right will go a long way to salvaging your personal reputations, and BioWare’s too.

So please don't place bandaging your bruised and battered egos above bringing perhaps the best science fiction trilogy in gaming to a consistent, coherent close. Don't just fix, really fix, the ending for the fans--do it for your legacy.

Modifié par Aquilas, 05 avril 2012 - 02:56 .