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[Pelle6666]

Well, this is just stupid. Why the hell are they doing this?! There are nothing to clarify in the current endings! The way it all ends is just bad, plain bad! Why, Bioware?! WHY!?

[Pulletlamer]

avantoreon wrote...

I'm cautiously optimistic.

Personally, I don't think there's a problem with the three broad ending outcomes (control the reapers, destroy the reapers, or merge with them). If BioWare can clear up what the heck the Normandy was doing out by the relay, and maybe present things in a way that's not so confusing and bleak, I'd be happy with that.

I was optimistic an hour ago..until that blog post.

They made it pretty clear. Just  some "cinematics" over the "existing ending cutscenes". Nothing will be changed.

I doubt a few cutscenes can explain the absurd amount of plot-holes.

[DeeLite808]

terdferguson123 wrote...

Alright thats it, they are giving us a FREE dlc that will extrapolate on the endings and you guys are STILL whining? That's it, all the talk of the retake movement being entitled brats is completely true at this point! You guys are just whining for the sake of whining. Go be miserable elsewhere, I am sick and tired of listening to your constant disgust with everything that isn't perfect in your screwed up minds.

^^^ This.

They are making a free DLC and the fans are still crying out....

They are beginning to sound more like birthers and 911 truthers now. when provided with evidence, they still want more..


to bioWare, thank you for doing this much. Thank you for listening to the RATIONAL fans who provided constructive criticsms to the endings provided, and are working on providing something that will help bring a little closure.

Personally, I'm satisfied with the game as is, and look forward to DLC that contains extra missions or new weapons and maybe teammates that I can bring along on subsequent playthroughs. But this little extra DLC is something to look forward to during the summer.

[locsphere]

And thats how Bioware lost half of its core fanbase.

Tell me another one about how BioWare killed itself.

Well its getting late, but OKAY! This story is about how no one bought DLC, The childs play double standard with EA, And the stupidity of Artistic integrity when you are using it to make a profit.

Never mind grandpa, Sounds like a sad story!

[VinHikaru]

Clarification = "You see here, this color isn't just red. It's actually more like a burnt amber with traces of crimson."

I'll hope for the best but am really expecting the worst. Fans want closure but, more importantly, they want an ending that makes sense with the themes established voer the previous 3 games. I'll even concede the need to sacrifice certain species for the greater universe to survive the Reaper attack. What I still don't understand is the sudden conflict between synthetics and organics. While the Reapers are synthetic, I don't think the fact they are synthetic and this opposes the organic nature of most species was ever really emphasized in the entire series. Clarifying this point in a few scenes is unlikely to successfully shoehorn in this idea for a conclusion that took 3 games and many years to develop.

Closure is fine, but my real problem with the ending was that it introduced random ideas that really did not fit in with the rest of the Mass Effect story...and not in a cool plot twist kind of way. Just in a weird "WTF did that come from that makes no sense" way.

Unless the DLC blows my brains out with how awesome it is, I will unlikely purchase any future ME3 DLC. Not because I'm boycotting Bioware, but because I just don't have the heart to continue a story I know ends so poorly.

Every time a new Bioware game comes out, I'll wonder if the developers decide to throw away the themes the game is based on and touted in its advertising during the last 10 minutes of the game. And then I'll likely put it back on the shelf and buy something else with my hard-earned money.

Modifié par VinHikaru, 05 avril 2012 - 04:39 .

[Ozai75]

Putting a shine on Poop doesn't make it any less Poop.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

bboynexus wrote...

Extra VA work has been confirmed by Gamble.

Unless it's been confirmed for both Shepard and the squadmates it means nothing to me.

[Athlonis1]

Bioware, you are NOT listening. Clarification not requested. Revision requested. One chance. Squandered.

[Adam2190]

It seems that Mass Effect 3 will end up in my forgotten games pile along with Dragon Age 2.

[Apollo-XL5]

So an announcement of extended ending dlc with no information about what exactly it is means that huge indoctrination theory is dead, please get a grip. Until bioware officially say in bold capital letters that it is false, then no one can debunk it.

Sounds more likely that the ending was split in two to be released later. I mean the summer is quite close and JD there were adding more to the ending from scratch, you can garentee that it would take much longer.

[soulprovider]

zhixson wrote...

You know, I'd gladly pay for starkid and actualkid to just vanish from the game at this point.

You and about 50% of fans, the other 50% would pay for indoc theory to be correct

Actuallity is take the endings at face value because we're making an MMO of the series so we can micro transaction the hell out of you.

[jidewe]

That's it Bioware, you've lost me. I'm sure you don't care. Well, I do, and I'm pretty sad.

[Deltoran]

I'm waiting and seeing but in essence I think the announcement is just a bunch of PR-speak meant to fool us. They timed it right before PAX so they could brush aside ending stuff by saying 'we've adressed that' and of course the Retake movement has been fractured into people who think clarification will be enough and people who think Bioware ignored the fans. The clarificationers and pro-enders will descend upon the anti-enders like locusts.

I personally believe (based on no real evidence until summer) this was a brilliant but evil PR stunt by EA/Bioware to feign pleasing fans but not actually fixing anything. And it will work...in the short term. They'll please 'enough' but in the long run, they're losing a boat load of fans, especially a lot of the 'silent' majority.

If these clarifications are just crap and really don't resolve anything, then I will not be purchasing a Bioware or EA game ever again. Only games I ever buy from them are ME anyway. Anyhow, I'm hoping that the clarification will be good but I doubt it.

P.S. I don't have any evidence to support my views, just my thoughts so please don't go all crazy and what not, if you want to respond to my post. I'm just expressing an opinion, no need to be nasty. Everybody's entitled to their own.

[AdmiralCheez]

"We're releasing free DLC this summer in order to address the 'ending' issue."

8D

"We're not changing the endings, though. Just making additional cutscenes to explain what happened to you dumb little buggers who can't grasp our artistic awesomeness."

8(

:|

X(

I'll try it since it's free, but way to miss the point, fellas.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 05 avril 2012 - 04:40 .

[Velocithon]

Fix1o0 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

Meanwhile in reality...

I had that planet as my desktop background at one point a while ago. Imagine my utter dissappoint, after going through that manure pile of an ending, I saw it as the very last thing in my favorite trilogy of all time.

My god...the horror. The lazyness...

[Erashep]

ok after what i read , i think that bioware is trying to fool us , this whole thing doesn't have a valid point imo . i don't need a damn cinematic to explain me what i have expirienced already .

what i want is what they promised .

A) no A,B,C decisions
my entire choises will affect the end of this series
C) but most of all i want and i demand for something which I WILL HAVE the total control of what is to become according to MY choises .

If you can't deliver what you promised , then don't do it at all . i am not seeing a movie , i am playing a game which i am the protagonist and i want to be the man in charge. Not casey not anyone else .

you trolled us all this time (you employer post a video on youtube as an answer which was the Anthem of Trolls ) .

I don't need to be clarified with you new DLC which from what i am reading there is no playing options (dialogs or combat ) but just a video .

You failed once more and i am goona hold the line til i get what i was promised .

End of story .

[LoboFH]

Why do you call it "artistic vision" when you want to say " commercial vision"?.

Mass Effect 3 did need one development year more to be satisfactory, conclusive and something to be remembered, and the lack of this development time brought to us the lazy space magic crap and all these empty excuses.

Videogames are not art...wake up and understand finally the real reasons of tge dissapointment of your followers.

[Tequila Man]

....................................................................been away from BSN.

Happy tears. Thank you, Bioware.

[KTheAlchemist]

This could be a "not fantastic, but still pretty good" thing.

This could be a "nope, still terrible" thing.

It 100% depends on whether or not Indoctrination Theory is at all true.

If we are still forced to take the endings at the most obvious face value, we are still left with endings that completely undo most if not all of the good we did during all 3 games.

I'm sorry, but if I worked my behind off in all 3 games, did all the optional stuff, made the most positive possible choices, had 5000+ war assets, did everything I possibly could to save the galaxy, I should at least still have the possibility of getting an ending that saves the galaxy better than knocking it to the stone age and hoping that in a few millenia it might recover.

[Adam2190]

Stop kidding yourselves people. If the DLC added anything of note it wouldn't be free.

[bpzrn]

Consumers are entitled to receive a product they expect to receive when they purchase a product/service or “art work”.  Add to that the PR/Marketing that built up the endings and game, zero of that marketing held true. Our decisions meant squat and the past 5 years meant nothing. They just plopped an off the wall story, new character and took away the main characters involvment at the end of the ME story and jammed it all in 5 minutes?

Maybe EA should take BWs lead on this new way of delivering games, make all the game endings art instead of sticking to a story line and making sense just plop in “whatever”, push for speculation?

You know like make EA NHL 2013 have the coaches be the goalies because they game designers art vision thought that would be great? Not that it make sense or fits with the rest of the game.

I wish the decision maker(s) on this ending would simply fess up and say year, we tried something and it did not work, we will fix it.

[withneelandi]

R3MUS wrote...

Well then, i guess this forum will be dead the next month? Because all of you heading to other games?

I get this amusing feeling that all of you will still be here next month, whining, screaming and yelling.

Well I won't be on the Mass Effect story forum anyway, i'd been keeping an eye on BSN to see what an announcment they would make, and now i've seen it, i'll wait to see what they come up with and move on. I'll probably still be on the mulitplayer forum, to see the challenge event details and get hints from people who are better than the game than me.

And I might want to talk about Dragon Age.

But no, no more moaning, point has been made, and Bioware have listened, but from my point of view kind of missed the point.

Like you say, time to move on, play something else, negativity isn't fun. Even when justified.

[Frozen83]

This is glorious! Stubbornes and smuggnes of BW is really unprecedented. After so much feedback why the endings simply don't work in ME universe and ideas on how to improve them, BW still feels as the ultimate artistic (integrity) zenith in the world. I guess they've earned enough money from the ME series and they simply don't feel the need to address their fans' ideas on how to improve a game, made for those fans, and encouraged by BW themselves to shape the game as they (the fans) see fit through Shepard's unique stories.

I guess I'll download this director's cut, but, unfortunately, I don't expect much. Too bad. I can just hope that this debacle won't happen with DA3. And that DA3 (and BW) won't suffer in the first place by this controversy. M.

[AntiDave]

EvilBeaver426 wrote...

Daedalus1773 wrote...

dheer wrote...

Derek Larke wrote...
 Hi All - this is true and you can read more here: 
http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

Your artistic vision for the end of this arc is awful. It renders the journey meaningless. Clarifying does not help.

"...The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game."

Then you have failed. Utterly and completely.

QFT.

Second

+1

Thanks for showing me the middle finger Bioware.
The 'artistic vision' was a steaming pile of.... WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO 'STRONGLY BELIEVE' AND DEFEND IT?!

Modifié par AntiDave, 05 avril 2012 - 04:44 .