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[Menalaos1971]

InglouriousBosh-Tets wrote...

In all honesty, this is all we can ask of BioWare at this point. Granted, not everyone is necessarily okay with an extended ending, but the devs can only do so much. The way I see it they could have completely ignored fans and stuck to the original ending, but they're showing that they still care about our input enough to acknowledge it.

Have a little faith that BioWare won't drop the ball on us again. They're taking a huge step towards making nice with the fans with this DLC, I think they've earned a reservation of judgement.

Bethesda and Broken Steel prove otherwise.  They could have manned up, admitted the enormity of their mistake, and corrected it with an Ending that flowed from the choices we made across three games.

[Giubba]

Probably this question was already answered but this DLC will be chronologically placed after the current endings?

[FollowMeClosely]

I am Sovereign wrote...


This sums up my feelings after reading this announcement.

This.

If BioWare doesn't rewrite the ending then I will NOT be buying any more games. It SICKENS me that I spent hundreds of dollars on the CE and a Kinect over BW's FALSE advertising. NO. MORE.

[Velocithon]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Ok tweet confirmed. I don't know what to think about it:

Aw **** this ****.

This goes completely against the FAQ which states no new endings. Unless they don't consider as expansion of the Shepard breath scene new, this just makes no sense.

[Darvins]

So we are still forced to meekly accept the words of a creature steeped in blood? A creature who states as fact and inevitable things which can be demonstrated to be false? We are still forced to go along with all this?

Clarity does not alter the fact that the Starchild uses spacemagic and makes Shepard accept it's words, despite it's words being false, and shown to be false throughout the rest of the game. Clarity does not change the fact that the 'Artistic Vision' for the ending amounted to 'Shepard dosn't care that the creature responsible for the Reapers and a mountain of dead so high just in this cycle that it would dwarf everest is now trying to appear as a innocent child'

The Starchild is disgusting, that Shepard and thus the player is forced to meekly go along with this most evil of beings in any Game Franchise ever is sickening. That the player is forced to meekly accept it's terms as fair and just is foul. That Bioware defends this as Artistic vision is that they defend the actions of the starchild, and frankly it... *sigh*

Yeah this is not exactly good news.

[felipejiraya]

Well, let's wait and see what happens.

[Blue Liara]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Ok tweet confirmed. I don't know what to think about it:

Whoa it would be great to see some clarification of this. God damn it Bioware. Make a more substantive announcement. 

[Johanna]

I'm self-destructing, I admit
I made so many bad, bad choices
And here's the thing, that I admit
I always know they're bad choices

www.youtube.com/watch 

*sigh.*  

Modifié par pants witch, 05 avril 2012 - 06:09 .

[ZiegenkonigIII]

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...

Make of this what you will twitter.com/#!/MrBlazenGlazen/status/187948439148052480

So they are just going to throw some BS explanation together showing how rebuilding the mass relays is possible?  And how no one starves to death?

[Unit-Alpha]

Jessica, the only beacon of hope.

Damn, that woman better get a raise asap. Hell, cut it from Hudson and Walters' salaries.

[Sireniankyle1]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Sireniankyle1 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Sireniankyle1 wrote...

Sireniankyle1 wrote...

If I get my blue babies, I don't give a **** what they do.

which is still possible btw

Yeah, about as possible as a janitor at McDonalds winning the presidential election.

IDK I did **** Liara before the final mission.......

I'm sure the new cinematics will show her broodmother status on the garden planet. For all the males on the crew.

IDK Shepard was alive at the end of the destroy ending. There is hope for my video game romance yet!

[Torrible]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Motherf***

Cinematics do nothing. To fix the game you need to resolve the Normandy crash debacle and what happens to Shepard if he picks the Destroy ending. I don't need more clarity about why the Normandy crashed, I need closure, a resolution to the god damn plot.

I want my damn team and LI with me at the end.

http://social.biowar...ndex/11037819/1 

Modifié par Torrible, 05 avril 2012 - 06:08 .

[Batarian_Army]

txmn1016 wrote...

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...

Make of this what you will twitter.com/#!/MrBlazenGlazen/status/187948439148052480

Well that makes me feel better.

On YOUR ending does not mean, that it will be THEIR ending...

[Kyrick]

So in other words Bioware, you didn't listen to people AT ALL. We didn't want 'closure', we wanted endings that made sense. Not only that, but now you're hopping directly on the 'it was art!' train. Your game wasn't 'art'. Any more than barfing on a mat and displaying it is 'art'.

Done with you. You've lost a customer you've had since the Baldur's Gate days. Though apparently you don't give a good God damn anyway, since this is what you're doing.

Failing at the ending and making it confusing due to lack of narrative structure isn't 'artistic', it's just failure. Compound that with the failure of refusing to admit that you've done anything wrong and it's enough to demonstrate that you're no longer the company that cares about what its fans think. You just care about defending yourselves even if you've made mistakes, and making money. It's all about the bottom line apparently and I refuse to give any more money to a company that behaves in that fashion.

[oblique9]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Ok tweet confirmed. I don't know what to think about it:

A united Shep with LI is my only wish at this point. Any amount of space magic will do.

[Velocithon]

Wait how would J. Merizan POSSIBLY know anything about this?

[wharone]

Greer wrote...

Oh, Bioware. You just can't help yourselves, can you? Still being needlessly passive aggressive ("our most passionate fans"; "we stand behind our artistic vision"), still insinuating that those of us unhappy with your ending are just too stupid to understand it ("to provide further clarity and closure"), and still completely missing the point while blaming us for your failure to deliver.

I've said this endlessly since the game dropped, and I'll continue to say it:

No amount of clarity alone will fix this.

None.

No amount of clarity alone will fix the fact that your ending, as it stands, is thematically and tonally divorced from the rest of the series.
No amount of clarity alone will fix that nothing Shepard does in the preceding three games matters at all.
No amount of clarity alone willl fix that Shepard just gladly goes along with ideas that s/he has demonstratively proven false.

Further, you do not get to claim "artistic integrity" and insinuate that it exempts your work from criticism. That's not how this works. If you had made this game solely for yourselves, sure. Stick by your guns. But you didn't. You made it for mass consumption and with the claim that it was made in "collaboration with the fans". That changes the rules. Extensively. (More on that in this lovely article: doycetesterman.com/index.php/2012/03/mass-effect-tolkein-and-your-bullshit-artistic-process/)

So, with all due respect, Bioware? Shove it.

This man gets it. Hope more people see this. Shame Bioware definitely won't. Hell, the "explanation" will probably be narrated by Chobot because it's "artistic."

[HairyMadDog1010]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Jessica, the only beacon of hope.

Damn, that woman better get a raise asap. Hell, cut it from Hudson and Walters' salaries.

This.

[Trentgamer]

If they are keeping the current ending but only fleshing it out and explaining it, they will have a bigger mess on their hands I think. They need to completely ditch the end we have now and put in something that makes sense. I don't care how much it's explained the starchild crap is just stupid. It still violates the major rules of writing and it still throws in concepts at the last moment that definitely need more than a couple extra cutscenes to explain... oh well. I figured it would be like this. At least it will be free..

[Unit-Alpha]

Torrible wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Motherf***

Cinematics do nothing. To fix the game you need to resolve the Normandy crash debacle and what happens to Shepard if he picks the Destroy ending. I don't need more clarity about why the Normandy crashed, I need closure, a resolution to the god damn plot.

I want my damn team and LI with me at the end.

http://social.biowar...ndex/11037819/2 

Yeah, I saw it. Hard to tell which to believe, but here's to hoping Jessica is right.

[DrJuergen]

This is a sad day.

[Unit-Alpha]

Velocithon wrote...

Wait how would J. Merizan POSSIBLY know anything about this?

...she's employed at Bioware.

[liquiddemon]

Its ok mouth breathers you can stop hating agleast untill they release this dlc.

Seriously its become tready and cool to hate on this game.

I loved the game and i disliked the ending mostly because once u go up to catalyst the game ended way to fast!

It says extended cenematics and epilogue during the ending sequence. To me the endings sequence would mean from when u arrive one earth.

Most people cant agree what kinda ending they want anyways it always just boils down to "it would still be better then current ending".

Give the extended cut a chance to fill the plot holes and add scenes to explain stuff.

[LTKerr]

Velocithon wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Ok tweet confirmed. I don't know what to think about it:

Aw **** this ****.

This goes completely against the FAQ which states no new endings. Unless they don't consider as expansion of the Shepard breath scene new, this just makes no sense.

Oh I see what they did there! A LOST ending! Minus the hatch.