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[avatar0]

"You feel that Starchild logic is too hard to swallow? Well, now you can take more time to do it. Chew, if you must."

[SaladinDheonqar]

Mixed feelings. It's nice that they're going to release it for free, but I still don't like the fact that they're sticking with the whole space casper thing. I just can't believe they actually think that's worth sticking by. It's utterly confounding. It's like they haven't read any of the reasons why it's so bad. I'll give this a chance, since it's Bioware (if that means anything these days), but if it's just a quick fix-it attempt to appease the fans, and not a proper sending off the Shepard & co, I will be saying goodbye to Bioware and EA.

Actually, now that I think through all that's wrong with the ending, I just can't see any amount of clarification or explanation salvaging it. JUST FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CHANGE THE WHOLE THING DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ZiegenkonigIII]

comrade gando wrote...

Ok At pax I can see them vaguely explaining their idea for the ending. What I want to hear them talk about is what they were thinking when a 10 minute photoshop image from google images would be an ok thing fo revealing a major character at the end o a 3 part series

This.  I hate what they did with Tali almost as much as what they did with the ending.  Almost.

[lajeokki]

I'm sooo excited about all this! Hopefully I get to thank bioware! That twitter post is just WHOAW!!!

[txmn1016]

Harorrd wrote...

NightHawkIL wrote...

BW can honestly not write anything that is not phrased condescendingly to the fans recently. Unbelievable. Hopefully what they put together is worth more than their words.

You realized they striped this content from the discs aswell?

This is pretty much by biggest fear about this.  I saw the stuff that was cut from the disc that answers some of these questions.  If all they do is tack that stuff back on, I am going to be very sad.

[Unit-Alpha]

MachinaDrake86 wrote...

"...reprioritized our post-launch development..." - Ouch. Kinda feel bad now.

Yeah, they had to push back the map pack for MP by a month!

[txmn1016]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

MachinaDrake86 wrote...

"...reprioritized our post-launch development..." - Ouch. Kinda feel bad now.

Yeah, they had to push back the map pack for MP by a month!

[ZiegenkonigIII]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

MachinaDrake86 wrote...

"...reprioritized our post-launch development..." - Ouch. Kinda feel bad now.

Yeah, they had to push back the map pack for MP by a month!

Yeah you really shouldn't be feeling bad about that.  It's probably what they want anyway, sympathy.

[Azarni]

nomoredruggs wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Ok tweet confirmed. I don't know what to think about it:

I just...This is... my resolve... :3

I have something in my eye! *scurries off*

Oh, please GOD let this be true.  I'm sorry about the Geth and EDI, but I'm not killing off my Shepard. 

That's all I want, at this point!

I am not at all ashamed to admit that I am so glad I am not the only one who feels this way.

I may feel like a sell-out later, but at the moment I am completely willing to set aside my qualms with starchild if the whole issue with the Normandy is resolved. That is all I want to make up for the days and weeks I have spent agonizing over how sad that made me. 

My god... I think I may be able to start breathing again and living normally. And I don't care one bit if anyone finds that pathetic.

[EagleScoutDJB]

MetalCargo999 wrote...

dbollendorf wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

dbollendorf wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

dbollendorf wrote...

So they are going to clarify the ending, does that mean that the people that don't like the ending are just to stupid to understand what they were trying to do? Thanks EA, you've done a wonderful job of getting me excited for Halo 4.

thanks for your contribution to this thread.  great insights there.

After all that's gone the last two weeks that's the best I have left in me.

Really?  I'm super excited now.  This is great news!

Your going to have to explain how this is great news when the best everyone else I've talked to about can say is I'll give it a chance.

Because the worst part in my opinion of the ending wasn't necessarily the direction the team decided to go in (Starchild, which is admittedly not my favourite thing in the world) but the arbitrary removal of important information to understand the ending.  They tried to artificially create mystery and it didn't work, and now with the extended cut they will finally fill in the blanks.  They also said they're doing this in response to fan feedback which means our questions will be answered, and the epilogues will bring the closure and denoument that is sorely lacking in the original.

I just don't see it, for me there is no amount of explanation that can help the current ending.  The announcement they made today just left me even angrier then I was when I finished the game.

[darkhorsedan72]

In my eyes they are spoiling their artistic vision of the current ending by offering clarity, as I thought one of their motivations for having the ending the way it is was to keep it ambiguous and open to speculation. Having to clarify something you created to be ambiguous is a huge compromise and goes against their original artistic vision.

And I bet they probably didn't even have all the answers to the questions raised by their ending when they originally came up with it, which means they are going to have to invent all the answers in order to make this new DLC. They're going to have to shoehorn in explanations to try and make sense of their deliberately ambiguous ending.

I suppose I should reserve my judgement, but personally I would much rather a new ending. I don't see it as any more of a compromise of their ideals of artistic integrity than what they're already offering.

[PSUHammer]

Wow, are some of you doom and gloom.

[Nieseln]

It would appear "artistic integrity" is more important than satisfying the majority of the fan base, who have continued to purchase bioware products over the years. From what I've read of these forums a lot more fans want different endings rather than "clarification" of the existing endings.

Surely they can keep their "artistic integrity" by retaining the existing endings as valid Shepherd responses, but also allowing alternative ending choices?

The availability of the alternative responses would be based on what actions Shepherd had carried out before (e.g. proving Geth and Quarian can get along)

Even a fourth response whereby Shepherd refuses to choose any option, and then the starchild decides for Shepherd anyway, would allow for yet another grim ending, but with Shepherd's integrity intact.

I think Bioware are definitely listening, but either not fully understanding the importance this has with their customer base, or they are in denial.

Very disappointed.

Positive things? Yes it would seem to satisfy some of the customer base, and at least they have done the decent thing by making it free (which will at least secure future revenues by retaining that portion of the fan base...)

[paxxton]

at no charge "OFFER EXPIRES APRIL 12, 2014" Why? Is this a deadline for Mass Effect 4? Or the end of current generation consoles?

Modifié par paxxton, 05 avril 2012 - 06:48 .

[killnoob]

so there will be no post-PAX poostorm? damn, that's disappointing...

[Janus382]

So Starchild remains, meaning we have to accept the technological singularity plot that isn't really important through 3 whole games, then thrown in our face in the last 5 minutes?

Well, it's still going to suck. But I do have faith that they will make it suck less.

[rachellouise]

more ME story, thank you BW

[Srefanius]

Sangheili_1337 wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Ok tweet confirmed. I don't know what to think about it:

I just...This is... my resolve... :3

I have something in my eye! *scurries off*

Technically Shepard reunited with the squad is possible with current destroy ending. Dont fall for the PR speak.

*facepalm* Thats what they are talking about not changing the ending, they want to show more instead of leaving all to speculation

[wrdnshprd]

glad its free. was afraid we were going to have pay extra for the content.

thanks bioware for listening. this is a great start.

[Beti88]

makenzieshepard wrote...

WHAT IS THIS TRICKERY?!

If this is a lie, I'll kill something

[TcomJ]

So.... we will still have the 3 colors choices, mass relay goes kaboom, joker landed on an alien planet with few friends, and that "endings are just a dream" indoctrination theory, which is not even the real ending they promise.

....Even if it is the indoctrination theory ending, what happens to Shep after then? Just shaft us up with the cliffhanger after spending 100+ hours?

[someguy1231]

As I said in another thread, no amount of "clarification" or "epilogue" can fix an ending like what we got. In the end, we'll still have an ending where our choices made no difference and the Reapers are led by a bratty starchild.

[Amagoi]

I don't want, and never have wanted, 'clarification' or an extension of the crappy endings. They're fundamentally flawed, and I do not want them at all. If they just put back in things they cut out, and add in one new cutscene before RGB explosions, it's going to get uglier than ever.

Frankly, I've already lost faith in Bioware. They say time and again that they're listening, and then prove that they don't really care for what they hear, so they ignore it. This is going to have repercussions.

[Apollo Starflare]

Katsaurs wrote...

I'm not really sure how to feel about this at the moment.

On one hand I feel very cautiously optimistic that hopefully this will finally give some sense and some sort of satisfaction. And it's free.

Yet on the other, I feel that no matter what they extend- those endings/star kid will remain, and Shepard is still doomed to perish without being given that 4th option and not see her blue babies (if they're given in the epilogue) anyway.

I'll wait and see before I start to really build my hopes up; I don't want them crushed yet again.

Sums up my feelings pretty well. 

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that they are releasing this for free. But no gameplay at all? I'm less concerned about a lack of shooting Harby in the face, and more concerned that this means no dialogue options.

Also, whilst I can understand they are defensive about their ending, they could tone it down a tad. A lot of the criticism of it is constructive and very reasonable, not just disagreeing with the direction. I just find myself skeptical that they can fix the multitude of inaccuracies and non sensical choices currently present whilst avoiding changing anything. 

I couldn't help but wonder whether this announcement was made now because they are announcing a map pack or something tomorrow too, heh. 

[mione]

So the starchild is still around? does that mean that those 'leak' rumors about the Shepard/starchild has some pull?