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Im writing this and preparing to make a you Tube vid of it(will take some time to get all the footage necessary). But before I start recording or anything, I wanted some oppinion. So here it goes:

******


  ON ANIME

 

I had this video in my head for a long time, and only gotten
around to make it now. This is a rather overwhelming topic, and  I confess I struggle to find a way to adress
it properly, so please bear with me if I jump around a bit. As a fan, I belong
in the "casual" category: I occasionaly watch an anime, and I freely
confess I'm rather snobbish and I demand a lot from any media. I consider most
anime too crappy for me, but I also consider most books and movies the same, so
there you go. And maybe that's what makes me more suitable to tackle this.
We'll see.

 

If you are a fan of anime, you surely faced a lot of
prejudice. People looking down on you, or considering you weird for watching
it, since they consider it childish or stupid. Even friends and family. This
can hurt and even more importantly, it can irriate and cause depression as one
feels helpless in the face of such...atmosphere.  But from where does it come from?

The simplest answer would be misinformation/ignorance. But
that is only one of the causes, and the second cause might be far more
important. Both causes are interconnected, so we will start with the first
one...misinformation.

Can you really blame poeple? Think a bit what exposure to
information regarding the subject people have? The vast majority know nothing
about anime other than what they occasionaly see on TV commercials or glimpse a
kid watching. This gives them as much of an insight into anime as watching
"The Grinch" movie gives you insight into all movies. And I say "all"
because anime is a very wide net to cast. it is no different than saying
"Holywood movie". One doesn't say much with that. Which movie? What
genre? What director? When was it made? And so on.. Two movies can be so
utterly diverse that any general claims on the value of all movies is null and
void. The same holds true for anime. There are numerous art stlyes - raging
from realisticly drawn people to total caricatures with giganormeous eyes
(altough styles like this are mostly used for comedic anime). Like in movies,
there are plenty of different genres. And anime also changes with time within a
genre: consider holywood action movies of the 80's and today.. Same thing.

Now immagine if an alien comes to Earth and asks to see a
movie. And he happens to see whatever movie you consider to be horrible or made
for kids. If he were to claim to you that movies are rubbish and earthlings are
stupid for watching them, you'd go "hold on.  That's not right. You cannot judge all moves
based on that."  And thats exactly
what a whole lot of people do when judging anime.

I said before that misinformation is a smaller problem.
That's because human psyche and culture can make it useless. Here's the
thing:  A human mind has associative
memory. We form conenctions within our "brainspace" between feelings,
concpets, descriptors and pretty much everything else. Even actions.  Repeated actions reinforce existing paths,
almost literally like a well-threaded path in comparison to a overgrown, unused
path. Hence our behavioral patterns are formed.

A similar thing is with concepts. I said before that your
average western man(or woman) has no experience of a mature animated movie.
That's why such connection was never formed. But the opposite did. A connection
between animated movies and silly/childish. Because that's all they have been
exposed too. You have to keep in mind that these connections have been
reinfoced for years and years, and they are not changed easily. Worse of all,
these connections are partially subconcious. Even if you conciously acknowledge
that anime can be mature and interesting, your subconcious is working actively
against you. If you were to sit and try to watch an anime, you'd find that
naging little voice at the back of your head, telling you how silly it is, how
you shouldn't be watching this. You'd be actively looking for anything silly, strange
or childish. This problem applies to all pre-conceptions, not just anime.

Another problem is the visual one. Either people will have
trouble taking any story seriously if the charactes are animated at all
(regardless of how well or how realisticly drawn) or, best-case-scenario, they
will be put off by only some art styles. This is because the sense of
strangeness. Humans have a tendency to react with hostility towards unfamiliar
or strange things, and they aren't accustomed to looking at animed moves the
same way as regular movies.

For both of these issues there is only one cure I know - awareness
& exposure. One must be aware of these pre-concpetions and one must power
trough the initial negative reaction. One must give the brain time and
opportunity to form those new connections and to become familiar with the art.
This doesn't mean one will get to love all anime art (I don't. There's styles I
really don't like, but I can watch). What it does mean it should ease ones mind
enough to enjoy at least some.

 

To give you an example: me and my roommate were bored one
winter, and I just aquired Vision of Escaflowne (a very good anime) and talked
him into wathcing it with me. He didn't have any thing better to do, so he
agreed. At first he was negative, and I honestly believed that he might walk
out during the first 2-3 episodes. But with each episode he became more and
more engaged. When the 26'th episode ended, we ordered two boxsets.  Now, this still didn't make a fan out of him
- we only watched 2 more anime, which he found decent enough, but not as good.
He doesn't really watch anime that I know off, as he has other stuff he likes
to do more, but he does respect it now.

 

Now, you maybe understand the reason for the jumping topics.
Before exploring anime deeper, there is a need to understand the problems that
might sabotage any facts I could deliver.

Anime was "invented" during a time when money was
scarce, so animation was simple, but efficient. Animation got better over time,
more art styles evolved. The budget for most anime is still low and most anime
studios would kill for the resources and funding some western studios have.
Even tough animation can easily rival or exceed anything in the west, the real
appeal of anime is for what and how it is used. Amazing use of colors,
life-like backgrounds and setting and moodpieces that convey the tone perfectly.
Play of light and shadow taken to perfection, creative use of cammera angles. Things
that hoolywood has been slowly borrowing over the years and is especially evident in some newer movies.

But the most destinctive attribute wold be freedom of
creativity and execution. The makers of anime could let their immagination run
wild and the results are predicablty both horrifying and amazing. On the good
side of the coin, anime can tackle all kinds of stories and issues, many of
which even Hoolywood is avoiding. For a few examples (all listed below are series, giveng you ample to time to know every chartacter):

- A story of a teen love resulting in pregnancy. Mother dies,
leaving the young devastated father alone to take care of the child. The child
however ends up with the same illness as the mother and dies.


- A story of a buisnessman getting custody over his deceased
grandfathers illegitimate daughter. The series follows their attempts to come acccustomed
to their new lives.

- A story of how time and distance, and small events have
their toll in life. How things don't always end up as we wanted to, how love
can hurt and how we must sometimes let go and move on.

- Stories of depression, lonelyness, reclusiveness and
broken people helping eachother.

- Story of a doctor hunting a deranged serial killer. The
best I could describe this is like a cross between "The Fugitive" and
"Silence of the lambs"

- Story of the near future of space colonization. A
exceptionally hard and realistic sci-fi about the life of space garbage
collectors.

- Stories of untreatable sickness, and how the helplesness
affects not only the sick, but their loved ones too. And the sick and dying can
easily be little children or couples in love.

Sad, gut-wrenching stories, bittersweet or happy stories. There's
far, far more themes and stories than this, which proves that not all anime is
about ninjas, monsters, magic and robots. But even more interesting is how such
true-to-life moments can be incorporated into any kind of story. Even those
with robots and ninjas. And how unexpected twists can happen at any time, like
for examples the main character dying half way trough the series!  For another example, a story about a boy being
abused and blackmailed by 3 girls, to the point of attempting suicide. Sounds
dark? This happens in one of the first episodes in a comedic show about a
former gang member turned teacher. Yes, in a comedy. And it's treated
seriously. Normally something like that might cause a mood whiplash, but they just
make it work.

And speaking of anime comedy - it's all over the place. While
it's usual that more caricature art stlyes are used for comedic purposes, there
is no hard rule. Comedy itself ranges from complete slapstick, visual gags,
word puns, to strange situations, misunderstandings and complete and utter
insanity and anihilation of the 4th wall.

Freddy Mercury on a horse in a highschool with a gorilla?
Anime has got you covered! Slice-of-life comedies about nothing in particular?
How about Sinefield of drugs and sugar? That is how Azumanga Daioh and Lucky
Star are usually described. When the first episode has 4 girls discusssing for
10 minutes how to properly eat a croassaint you know something is way off.  How about the love misadventures of boys
who's hormons have gone into overdrive? Secret  and utterly inept organization taking over the
world? With a motor-mouth as its'main agent? And you think Kenny had it rough!

Anime has gone so far to produce several genres unique to
itself. Like magical girl shows. Basicly shows about small girls with magical
power in frilly outfits. Which would be a completely harmless show for little
rigls....right? Except half the audience are grown males. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Because now we have reached the dark side of anime and the horrifying side-effects
of all that artistic freedom. And I ain't talking tentacle rape here.

Stories so utterly confusing that you end up going "WTF
did I just watchehre?". And not in a good, amused way. Stories filled with
so puch philospohical BS that "pretentious" doesn't even begin to
cover it. Stories to devoted to fanservices that it's wrong to even call them
stories...more like backdrop for boob and pantyshots. And the worst of the lot,
stories that shove "fanservice" but feature under-aged girls. Oh yes,
I don't mean in a cute or motherly way..I mean in a sexualized context (with
characters being visibly aroused).  
Japan, you freak me out sometimes.

 

This is a topic one could continue to talk about for hours,
but I tried to be as concise as possible. To sumarize:  Anime is an art form and a borad entertainment
media that is in may ways the same as 
western movies/series, yet in many ways different. It produces great stories
and horrible ones. Mature stories and childish ones. If one can cross the
inital hurdle of getting into it, anime can be an exceptionally awarding
experience with something to find for everyone.

 

ADDENDUM:

As to how to introduce  a friend of loved one to anime: My best advice
wouldbe to have a movie/series night and have the other person pick his
favorites. Then you ask him to pick your favorite. Basicly guilt-trip him into
watching it with you. He'll thank you later. 
Just make sure to pick an anime based on the other persons preferences,
not yours.

 Another good way to
break the barrier are AMV's.  Anime with
it's rich visuals is like tailor-made for music videos. I will include a list
of some of the best and highest-quality AMV's for those interested.

 

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 05 avril 2012 - 02:31 .


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Eurypterid

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It seems to me that anime is hugely popular. I personally can't stand the art style, but I'll admit some of the stories are very good. But the art style is enough to turn me off and I really don't care if I miss out on a few good stories because of it.There are plenty of other stories in other media that I'll enjoy.

As far as what people think: why do you care? I've been with my wife for 17 years and she doesn't like video games. Can't understand what I see in them. Doesn't bother me. We get along fine. Some friends of my age (I'm 48) get that look on their face when they find out I play computer games. Doesn't bother me. They like what they like and I like what I like. When I was younger it was Dungeons and Dragons. Plenty of people looked down on people that played it, and plenty of times I was outright laughed at because I played it. Who cares? I like what I like and I'll enjoy it if I want to.

If you're looking to try to get a friend/loved one to like anime, well give it a shot. But don't be upset if they don't. Just accept that you're the one that likes it and find something else the two of you like.

If your point is to try to get more people to give anime a chance, then go for it. No harm in trying.

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Kaiser Arian XVII

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Many anime works are created for Kids and Teens, so they're too dumbed down for the test of their audience. In the other hands there are Mature anime which focus on gore or sexual themes. Unfortunately most of them are also mindless, besides good and deep ones that can be found in this category. So finding a good anime is a difficult work. As the majority are labeled inappropriate and uninteresting, the good ones burn under this labeling. It was inevitable ...

Those that can be considered meaningful and deep are those of more Artistic, emotionally engaging dramas, Tragedy, Spiritual-Mythical, philosophical, social-war crisis related anime or else ... I'm a fan of Detective/Crime genre and can hardly find cartoon/anime about this genre.

Another problem is the direct cultural connection between Japan and West is too thin. They affect each other slightly, but hardly with animations or even video games (so few Japanese games/movies/anime are outside Japan); not so common explains better.

Awareness & Exposure should be in all aspects of life for better understanding and decision-making indeed.

Another solution is using it's Japanese adjective instead 'anime' when you want to talk about this mature ones and I can't remember the term.

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Well said. Though I'd add that anime (and the Japanese) have awesomely good and certainly different music, voice acting, and all kinds of artistic expression beyond simple drawing - these are incorporated into vastly unique anime. And that's why I'm more a fan of anime than manga.

About your examples... I recognized Monster and Usagi Drop, what are the others??

I personally would recommend all who are vary of anime shows like Cowboy Bebop, maybe The Girl That Leapt Through Time, and if they've got some patience, then Ergo Proxy, or Texhnolyze. Haruhi Suzumiya and CB are probably the only dubs I don't have a grudge with - the Japanese VO is what really makes anime hyperreal instead of kid-oriented (even if the themes and all other content remains the same, western VO's do sound childinsh, for whatever reason).

(all of the above shows can be found on youtube)

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Lotion Soronarr

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eroeru wrote...

Well said. Though I'd add that anime (and the Japanese) have awesomely good and certainly different music, voice acting, and all kinds of artistic expression beyond simple drawing - these are incorporated into vastly unique anime. And that's why I'm more a fan of anime than manga.

About your examples... I recognized Monster and Usagi Drop, what are the others??


You cna find them in this list (still not completely ordered):



Amazing combinations of
music and visuals, serious/dramatic or sentimental/romantic tone.




ROMANTIC/SAD/COMPLATITIVE

 
Hold on to that Feeling - Mix


 
Back Then - 5cm per second


 
Distance - 5cm pr second
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfqIOOKdx6k&feature=player_embedded


Dear Angel (Mix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghmYfdyiIG0&feature=g-like&context=G2bf0e2fALT32CRgAAAA

 
Have to Stay - Shuffle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PWrGuf6KTw&feature=g-like&context=G280f04bALT3YUewALAA

 
So Nicely - Usagi Drop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsxcvHROkTM&feature=g-like&context=G24d24ecALT32CRgABAA

 

End of my World - Clannad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGeT4FaqY4E&feature=g-like&context=G20cf5b3ALT32CRgAJAA

Steps - Clannad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPVn9JIeSuc&feature=g-like&context=G2b777eaALT32CRgAMAA


Diamond drops - Monster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmD89vSMnmI&feature=player_embedded

 

Welcome to my Secrets - Welcome to NHK, basicly tells a story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNXr7cvNYnM&feature=player_embedded

 


CELEBRATORY/ATMOSPHERIC

 

Life is Beautifull - Mixed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0slhWiBVr4&feature=player_embedded

 

Best of You - Mixed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl48UzWcKrI&feature=player_embedded

 
Alone - Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZNJbS3bwc

 
Fireflies - mixed anime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90oluqly_7A&feature=player_embedded

 

Around the World - Mixed anime, DJ remix firefiles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfOWz_RJBz8&feature=player_embedded

 
Memory Flash 3 - mixed anime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCXpZdlnmQE&feature=player_embedded

 
Just For A Day - Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijxaZB84_pc&feature=g-like&context=G2d3964bALT32CRgAVAA

 
Alive - Earth Girl Arjuna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81pRkXGuQk&feature=player_embedded

 
Air Battle - Yukikaze
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpkchJI-wUU&feature=player_embedded

 
With You - Mixed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1R7xN3T_8w&feature=player_embedded

 
Duality -Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctn4ndHp53U&feature=player_embedded

 
Must Be Dreaming - the Girl that lept trough time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu7gRBLPNfQ&feature=g-like&context=G2d2923aALT32CRgAcAA

 
Building Steam - Steamboy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTIcOmqH1Pg


Goodbye my... - City Hunter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPu-iHNBJug&feature=player_embedded


Pure Thrust - Bakemonogatari
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIPicvNw-fQ&feature=player_embedded

 

Breath of Spring - Bakemonogatari

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZXqmYyP0yA&feature=g-like&context=G23bab77ALT32CRgAWAA

 

Future Reality - Time of EVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ljNO0FemCg&feature=g-like&context=G246b55cALT32CRgAGAA

 

On a Good Day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nanw8aMESM&feature=g-like&context=G21496a0ALT32CRgAHAA

 

Fly High

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ko1aGVtbE&feature=relmfu

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XTyd43gN-E (Meimoo - paprika)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mulHVo8x8 (Ordinary Day - VoE)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMd2Tc9Jsqg (One Day More - Macross)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQRYFQ3Ebxs (Pulp Fiction - Cowboy Beebop)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waHL3ejnotM&feature=player_embedded (One
Guitar)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGupodLyFYk&feature=player_embedded
(Digital Soul - Ghost in the Shell)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgy_xE1Z4bw&feature=player_embedded
(It's Smoky Today - Sky Crawlers)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koY-ZByxy9A (The Look - mixed)

 

- removed from YouTube - (Torment my Existence)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaFnjkdCY0k (Holding out for a Hero - mixed)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQw05e26I-k (Engel - Evangelion)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiY-I7nANGw (Invincible - Macross)

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwzVC0xQfnA&feature=player_embedded
(View to a Kill - City Hunter & Sailor Moon)

 

Guns N Roses - City Hunter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg7Pk7g_wuM&feature=player_embedded

 

We Belive in Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFpIxh2vHQU&feature=player_embedded

 

Aqua Satelite  (Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6sxbn6IZtk&feature=g-like&context=G211a601ALT32CRgAPAA

 

Fireflies - another version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmp0s-FcXII&feature=player_embedded

 

Prisoner of Darkness - SS: Lost Canvas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1ULo2iLn1k&feature=g-like&context=G2730e22ALT32CRgAIAA

 

 

COMEDIC/DANCE[/b]

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4WQOVcb2k0&feature=related
(Chick-Chiky-Boom   - Golden Boy)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOqlry3LGMM&feature=player_embedded
(Darkest of Places)

 

BakkaDance - Mix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFDK_TiMwkM&feature=g-like&context=G20471deALT32CRgAUAA

 

Staceys Mom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9CVZjzqZxs

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSTXHYcVVZg&feature=player_embedded
(Never wanted to dance)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9e_WIoJJnI&feature=player_embedded
(Tainted Donuts - Cowbooy Beebop vs. Trigun)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBUdxLsS5g4&feature=related (I wish I
was a Lesbian - Mixed)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL3cpFzDlL8 (William Tell overture -
Kodocha)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3PIcOTmJZQ&feature=related (Love
Crash  - FMP Fumoffu)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd9i0Qa8UgQ&feature=player_embedded
(Erection - Golden Boy)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAn0P2HIPMg&feature=related (The Cyrus
virus)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gcnjj7itcQ&feature=player_embedded
(Lights Out)

 

 

Beat Drop (Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7V2yU3Pk_o&feature=g-like&context=G27025b5ALT32CRgAOAA

 

Little Girls (Azumanga Daioh)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo3Tpw-zLkM

 

We Want You For the Navy!  - Mix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXX1XJrKj-s&feature=fvsr

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3m-dLd4Kd0 (It's a sin)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsBQxM3pDW4 (HAIR)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmX08CsXqws (Need for Speed)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfhCg2qPkXM&feature=player_embedded
(1985)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W_wd9Qf0IE&feature=player_embedded
(Code Monkey)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSDNPFCPfY&feature=player_embedded
(Stars - Irresponsible captain Taylor)

 

-  Removed from YouTube - (Kyons
Girlfriend - Haruhi)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RowVdpu3bkM&feature=player_embedded (TNT
- the Great Takamura)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYW-d_lbyuo (Trigger Happy)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKI7BEArYV4&feature=player_embedded (You
Can Do Better - Black Lagoon)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGc754iEIuw&feature=player_embedded
(Brainless Violence)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSRkNFFHFbk (Space Giants From Outer Space)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMR_wm92k1w (Brand New Day - Death Note)

 

 

 

 

Dance/fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Leu1sBh-cYM&feature=player_embedded
(Coloring)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfb8HFtgW8s&feature=related (Move Your
Body - Mixed)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCCYDuxprpo&feature=player_embedded
(Shake That)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkapwmG2pp0 (AMV Dance Party)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAp6ws2yI5A&feature=player_embedded
(Kodocha AMV)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJKR2hmvSg4 (Confession on the Dancefloor)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6ZSNW9U46s&feature=related (Just Dance)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diSz5cYOLfQ&feature=related (Witch
Doctor)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpnSct0Ikro (Fun - Mixed)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMVcZE2fJes (Now or Never)

 

 

Lucky Star Mario Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58iX1nnOKjs&feature=g-like&context=G2c46f0fALT32CRgAxAA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ACTION:[/b]

 

Watch Out (Mix)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpOez9VLc4g&feature=g-like&context=G2654c12ALT32CRgACAA

 

Kick Him - Durara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC2yoiNRIuk&feature=g-like&context=G2fba441ALT32CRgASAA

 

Gloriam Sempreamus - Mix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQm17l0hmUc&feature=g-like&context=G288ff23ALT32CRgATAA

 

Why do you belive in monsters - Great Takamura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po620R3vamc

 

Broken Butterfly - Cowboy Beebop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqUz4D5_H-A

 

Sons of War  - Berserk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRrfNm9YjBo&feature=related

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0zHde0r0-Q (Breathe - Evangelion)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1JTcqbtClQ (In Tenebris - Escaflowne)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMbFIwSd06U&feature=player_embedded (I
will Not Die - Gantz)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFTAQwL6nUI&feature=related (Saturday
Night Fight Club)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh4-glb0O3E&feature=related (Get Over it
- Black Lagoon)

 

Gold Saint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smTbtqR4fbs&feature=g-like&context=G2efd88dALT32CRgA3AA

 

Shiryu vs. Vegeta

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdvOmogwxj4&feature=g-like&context=G26b4387ALT32CRgAhAA

 

 

 

Not technicly an AMV, but more AMV hell material:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFldBVWFgWo&feature=player_embedded
(Boot to the Head - Phownix Wright, joke)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaGwJvJH0m8 (Flying car - a joke)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqUt_Km9CGM&feature=player_embedded
(Azu-madness)

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6CR7uQXGYA&feature=player_embedded
(THIS IS WAR - not a AMV, but it's too awesome)

 

 

 

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Death Note and Full Metal alchemist are the only anime I've watched. I normally prefer reading manga scans, most of which is just Bleach, Naruto, and Fairy Tale.

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Code Geass, and Eureka 7. Those are the only animes I've ever actually felt proud to watch, not because they were animes but because of the stories. These two are just masterpieces..

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I must confess that as much as I love anime, I mostly hate AMV's. The music is western, and bland, so it doesn't really go together, nor bring forth the original unique atmosphere. Also, one can make only so little assumptions based on several scenes throws together in no logical order.

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eroeru wrote...

I must confess that as much as I love anime, I mostly hate AMV's. The music is western, and bland, so it doesn't really go together, nor bring forth the original unique atmosphere. Also, one can make only so little assumptions based on several scenes throws together in no logical order.


I'd suggest you watch before you judge. I'm a snob in every sense of the way, so I assure you, only quality AMV's are linked. Especially the first few on the list.

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You can't deny that western music sounds vastly different and gives off a whole different feel than japanese (anime or games') music. ;)

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C9316 wrote...

Code Geass, and Eureka 7. Those are the only animes I've ever actually felt proud to watch, not because they were animes but because of the stories. These two are just masterpieces..



:huh::blink:<_<

Materpieces? heh....

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eroeru wrote...

You can't deny that western music sounds vastly different and gives off a whole different feel than japanese (anime or games') music. ;)


And what does that have to do with an AMV?
Not to mention there's a LOT that falls under the category of "western music". Some things blends nicely, some don't.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Code Geass, and Eureka 7. Those are the only animes I've ever actually felt proud to watch, not because they were animes but because of the stories. These two are just masterpieces..



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Materpieces? heh....

 
 I agree with you on this one. I couldn't watch either of the two past a few (several) episodes. :D

About AMV's having western music - well, they just give off a whole different vibe than anime in particular, because of this. 
I for one don't find anything of value in AMV's, even the better ones, but love anime (and I'm pretty sure that the nature of that particular kind of music is what puts me off).

But they can give good info for ones interested in the drawings' style.
I for one would more gladly watch something like this or this though (it's from Studio 4°C (an anime studio)). Or any good anime OP or ED. Perhaps this one.

EDIT: for my recommendations, I would link to this: http://social.biowar...23755/9#8796746 

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C9316 wrote...

Code Geass, and Eureka 7. Those are the only animes I've ever actually felt proud to watch, not because they were animes but because of the stories. These two are just masterpieces..


Code Geass? A masterpiece? ;:o


ON TOPIC EDIT: I watched the "Bakkadance" one. I hate AMVs. Like, I hae them. But that was pretty funny stuff. Especially considering all the footage from my two favorite animes, ZnT and TTGL.

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eroeru wrote...
About AMV's having western music - well, they just give off a whole different vibe than anime in particular, because of this. 
I for one don't find anything of value in AMV's, even the better ones, but love anime (and I'm pretty sure that the nature of that particular kind of music is what puts me off).


What's this? Some Japanese purity nonsense?
Since when is japanese music in any way superior? How the hell can it always give a different vibe? The vibe depends on the AMV in question itself.
And even assuking everything yo usaid is true - why SHOULD an AMV have to have 100% exactly the same "vibe"?

How can one not find anytihng of value in AMV's is beyond me. They are art in itself.
Sure, there is a TON of crappy ones that people with no talent (or brain) put together. But that hardly diminishes the worth of the good ones.

You could say I value AMV more than anime - because I can enjoy a well-made AMV even if it's made from an anime I hate.

Just check out the AMVs from the top of my list.

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ON TOPIC EDIT: I watched the "Bakkadance" one. I hate AMVs. Like, I hae them. But that was pretty funny stuff. Especially considering all the footage from my two favorite animes, ZnT and TTGL.


try this one for size:




and this one:

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the safety dance on was fun XD