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[HawkOfMay]

Master Che wrote...
tantrums. all i see are tantrums.

Look a bit more... as someone who really like the "Indoctrination Theory"  (not planned by BioWare --- just an accident because the ending left so many holes that any theory could be driven through it) I'm perfectly willing to see exactly what is in the new content.

I do agree with the OP though...more information will be coming out, we should evaluate it then instead of more speculation.

[Norwood06]

Agreed - even if I don't like the ending's lack of player choice - if they can patch up the gaping holes in logic, I'll be content.

Thanks BW for offering this for free.

[Sinner8056]

People have asked for a new ending. Bioware says they will explain the current ending. This is not what those people asked for. Continuing to ask for the thing they want is not unreasonable.

Now the manner in which people are asking may be unreasonable, but that's not a reason to generalize everyone as being unreasonable.

[firebreather19]

Smells like garbage to you but roses to others. You have to understand not everyone hated it as much as you, and even more that there's a good chance this extended cut will change a lot of folks minds about the ending.

[NM_Che56]

Is it that people feel (ahem) ENTITLED to know exactly every little detail right now and not a moment later?

[Anwarddyn]

arthurhallam wrote...

exactly. the retakers should be happy they're even doing this much!

to be honest, i wish the retakers would pipe down a bit now so we can start talking about something else.

I think the retakers (myself included) should accept that this is all we will ever see in terms of DLC to address the ending. I do not however feel there is any reason to be "happy" as they are doing nothing that the retakers have asked for.

In all honesty, the ending was bad enough to want it changed but not enough to drive me away. I am done asking for any changes since the announcement, they won't happen. I do find the need to keep pointg out however that this was not in any way a "victory" for the retakers. It is however the only resolution of the issue we will get, so we have to accept it or go elsewhere.

Modifié par Anwarddyn, 05 avril 2012 - 03:32 .

[NM_Che56]

firebreather19 wrote...

Smells like garbage to you but roses to others. You have to understand not everyone hated it as much as you, and even more that there's a good chance this extended cut will change a lot of folks minds about the ending.

my thoughts too

[Heavvy Metall]

I'll admit i'm disappointed in the Announcement, but at least it's something. As long as they clarify and explain the plotholes i'll be happy.

[Canned Bullets]

I don't want a dlc where they polish a turd. The ending was just really bad with its starchild bull****.

[Rickin10]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Hahahaha, EA just crushed the line with that release. Divide and conquer, oldest trick in the book. They're damn good marketers.

Exactly.  I'm shocked how retardedly gullible people are sometimes.

[Thorn Harvestar]

Chances are, they haven't fully decided HOW the Extended Cut will address everything.

I'm OK with a vague PR release in the meantime, because I'd hate for them to commit to something they end up not delivering, as they did with earlier pre-release promises.

[KaeserZen]

Master Che wrote...

Is it that people feel (ahem) ENTITLED to know exactly every little detail right now and not a moment later?

The thing is, stringing unhappy people along, and telling them to be calm won't really be effective together...

They said they'd announce something in April, we are in April, they announced something, they are not going to tell much more until the end of june.
They announced this before PAX so that they won't have to talk about this.

Which will just cause more rage.

It feels like the PR crew only thinks short-term rather than long-term. Which is a real pity.

[Yearlongjester]

They're expanding on sh*t.

This will only lead to more sh*t

[Apocaleepse360]

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

After seeing some of the reactions and threads, I would rather be with the Call of Duty fanbase

Woah, I wouldn't go that far. But yeah, it is pretty bad.

[YonatanJ]

EA got what they wanted, thats for sure. I must say that this is one of their smartest PR movements yet, absolutely diving the protest group in half.

[BrianWilly]

I don't see how anyone's being unreasonable. I think that being concerned about "clarification" is a perfectly reasonable response.

It's up to BioWare to prove me wrong. I'm certainly not going to "believe in them" or somecrap considering that they gave me that stanky failure of an ending in the first place.

[Johnnycide]

Calm down and wait, we'll see if Bioware are like the Mythbusters and they can polish a turd.

[leapingmonkeys]

The issue is that "clarification and closure" is not what the customers wanted.

What is wanted is that Bioware make good on the pre-release marketing claims for ME3. It was supposed to be a "unique" experience for each player and player's choices in ME1/ME2 were supposed to have a material impact on the ME3 experience.

That cannot be done with a game which railroads one into a singular ending.

What the customers want are *multiple* endings that would reflect how the players played ME1/ME2. That means that ME3 needs multiple plot lines which open/close based on, at least, the major decisions from ME1/ME2. Those multiple plot lines need to lead to multiple, diverging, conclusions. Bioware itself announced prior to the release of ME3 that since ME3 was the last game in the series that the were free to create diverging endings since there would be no follow-on game that had to pick up from the end of ME3.

What Bioware needs to do is provide *multiple* endings.

[evisneffo]

Sinner8056 wrote...

People have asked for a new ending. Bioware says they will explain the current ending. This is not what those people asked for. Continuing to ask for the thing they want is not unreasonable.

Now the manner in which people are asking may be unreasonable, but that's not a reason to generalize everyone as being unreasonable.

[812memphis]

I'll wait for the DLC: And if it doesn't please me i am done with Mass Effect.
totally calm and waiting

[NM_Che56]

KaeserZen wrote...

Master Che wrote...

Is it that people feel (ahem) ENTITLED to know exactly every little detail right now and not a moment later?

The thing is, stringing unhappy people along, and telling them to be calm won't really be effective together...

They said they'd announce something in April, we are in April, they announced something, they are not going to tell much more until the end of june.
They announced this before PAX so that they won't have to talk about this.

Which will just cause more rage.

It feels like the PR crew only thinks short-term rather than long-term. Which is a real pity.

So because some people are impatient that means everything needs to be unveiled now?

[Zuka999]

I wont play anything with Starbrat in it.

[RACDB]

Hold the Whine.

[EmEr77]

sp0ck 06 wrote...

This is the most knee jerk fanbase there is. If I was someone at BW working on this DLC, and I came to these forums to get a sense of where the fans were at, I'd probably purposely go against their wishes because some of the people here are just ridiculous.

That would negate the definition of professionalism then wouldn't it? Would you really let your personal feelings affect your work ethic? If I was a boss, and I saw that comment from you, I'd probably not hire you. 


It works both ways. People disagree with opinions all the time, whether it's from outside sources, or in their own offices. Being an adult (meaning mature), and being professional means working past the things that may "irk" you and doing what needs to be done, for the sake of fixing things. In this case, some sort of amendment needs to be done to the endings (notice I didn't say overhaul, that's now what we're going to get, and that's not the most plausible course of action) is what's going to fix things. For a lot of people. I've seen a lot of "pro-enders" on here who seem to still agree with some of the issues of the ending. Meaning, something for sure, needs to be fixed.

Anyone with a decent understanding of the Internet understands it's a gamble as to what they're going to find on here. That includes the BioWare forums. So those individuals working on the DLC, if they are parusing the forums, know exactly what kind of responses they are going to see. They'll see some trolls, they'll see some flame wars, but they'll also find a lot of well-thought out critical analysis that's entirely objective, describing why the ending is inadequate. Notice also how I didn't say "wrong." I said inadequate, because it is. From a technical standpoint. If you still go something out of it, then good for you, and I'm not saying that sarcastically--however that unfortunately does not negate the fact that there are technical issues with the ending that need to be fixed. 

So the bottom line is, before you say what you did, you may want to take a moment and really think about what you're saying, and how it applies to yourself in some way. I'm sure you've had a knee-jerk reaction to something as well, that wasn't so pretty, and wouldn't look very nice to others either.