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[corporal doody]

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im so tired of all this "****** on them" going on around the BSN. it was bad....it has gotten worse...now it is non-sense. Im cool with being upset with the endings....I dislike the "Retake movement" and how they have been going about things though. This crap is getting so silly. GIVE US WHAT WE WANT OR ELSE mentality is CRAP. Happy ending or bust for you!! CRAP! freakin bile spewing all up around here.

I throw in the towel. If i could fling poo i would. ****** on you ingrates that are unwilling to be patient. Stuff takes time...a olive branch has been offered...rather than say.."we will see/reserve the right to accept until seeing what it is you are offering"...you say "GO TO HELL!"

Game over man!!

retake my sanity.
see my movement (BM baby!!).

[MrHibachi]

tekkaman fear wrote...

Bah, you never accept the first offer in a negotiation!

This made me laugh...I wish it was a negotiation.  I'm interested to see what they come up with but no epilogue or extended cutscene will be able to fix the emptiness and absence of story and dialogue in this game.  I'm trying to work up the motivation to continue a different playthrough from the previous two games then the one I beat ME3 with the first time to see if one of them has more dialogue but I doubt it.

I think that for the most part what we have is what we get, but who knows...maybe they CAN make it better......

[AtlasMickey]

"Now"??!?! They were being unreasonable before!

[HenchxNarf]

AtlasMickey wrote...

"Now"??!?! They were being unreasonable before!

Yes, well.. sometimes they can't see the forest through the trees.

[RDSFirebane]

AtlasMickey wrote...

"Now"??!?! They were being unreasonable before!

not really.... how calling bs when 16 endings turned into 3 is unreasonable I just idk

[MOIST N FLUFFY]

I think it is unwise to get upset about this. Whether or not you are happy with this current arrangement, the retake ME movement is now in a position that could be easily demonized. If we weren't whiny brats before (even though many thought we were), it will be much easier to paint us this way now if we continue to rage against the machine about something we can't fairly judge yet.

[Blue Liara]

So before they said they were going to add ending DLC we were not being unreasonable to ask for a change to the endings.

But now they have said they are not going to change the endings but add DLC clarification. So they are STILL NOT doing what the movement was for, yet now we are being unreasonable for being upset for Bioware not actually doing what we wanted in the first place.

You seem to have been listening to the star child with your circular logic BS.

[Splinter Cell 108]

People said that we should wait and see before Dragon Age 2 and then that happened. People said that we should wait and see after the leaked script happened and then we got this mess. People said we should wait and see when the demo came out and we got another mess. The time for waiting and seeing is over.

BioWare cannot be trusted, they have been lying for over an year about the endings. They keep ignoring us and giving us the same PR bull**** over and over but more importantly they treat us like we're idiots that don't know what is truly going on. No, I think that what is happening now is what has to happen. I'm tired of seeing game companies abusing gamers because they think we're all morons who will buy anything regardless of how crappy it is.

BioWare and EA are not going to get away with it. Either BioWare starts giving facts or they start to get ready for more of what's happening now.

[HenchxNarf]

RDSFirebane wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

"Now"??!?! They were being unreasonable before!

not really.... how calling bs when 16 endings turned into 3 is unreasonable I just idk

Oh, and btw.. you spelled "spelled" wrong...Spelt is not a word.

[Actinguy1]

On a scale of 1 to 10, my initial annoyance after experiencing the ending was probably a 3.5.

Then I went online and learned that I had, basically, seen the ONLY ending.  My annoyance raised to a 5.

Then I began reading the press releases, etc, about artistic integrity and the customers don't matter.  My annoyance level hit 10 WEEKS ago.  It's not about the ending anymore.  It's about Bioware's attitude towards the customer.  Too artistic for my money?  No problem.  Lots of artists out there who want it.

[EnforcerWRX7]

I've never seen a company dismiss its customer faster than bioware has.

They literally dis their fanbase with every press release.

[HenchxNarf]

EnforcerWRX7 wrote...

I've never seen a company dismiss its customer faster than bioware has.

They literally dis their fanbase with every press release.

Actually, they didn't. They were being honest. And they told you no.

[Iakus]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I feel like I need to copy and paste this in every thread, but:

People need to calm the hell down. We don't even know the details of what this DLC will be, and people already want to burn BioWare at the stake for it.

True we don't know what is being put into the DLC.  But we know what isn't being put in it:

New endings
Changed endings

That leaves very little to be optimistic about until they deign to give us somthing to actually look forward to.

[humansrsuperior]

I agree.  I know they didn't exactly tell us what we wanted to hear, but this could still go well.  We don't know what all this DLC will entail (HOPEFULLY Bioware knows just extra cinematics isn't going to cut it) so I'm willing to hold judgement and wait and see.  I really am crossing my fingers Bioware gets this right, though.  They MUST recognize the direness of this whole thing, that if they misstep now, it will be the point of no return.  

[Thalorin1919]

I really don't think you guys get it.

You cannot change the ENTIRE ending to a game. You know how much money and time that would cost? It would also discount the endings of before - endings a group of people liked - while also having to keep the story jointed with the past events of the game, particularly matters involving the Crucible, the Citadel, the Illusive Man, and the whole motivation of going to Earth in the first place.

What you guys are "demanding" for is unreasonable. You should take what you get and I'm surprised Bioware is even doing this - FREE DLC that will give closure, epilogue, and more cinematic scenes to the player.

Jesus Christ this is pathetic.

[Iakus]

humansrsuperior wrote...

I agree.  I know they didn't exactly tell us what we wanted to hear, but this could still go well.  We don't know what all this DLC will entail (HOPEFULLY Bioware knows just extra cinematics isn't going to cut it) so I'm willing to hold judgement and wait and see.  I really am crossing my fingers Bioware gets this right, though.  They MUST recognize the direness of this whole thing, that if they misstep now, it will be the point of no return.  

In customer service, it's important to avoid saying "no" to a customer.  This announcement essentially did that to a lot of fans:  "No we are not providing new endings"  "No we are not changing the things you disliked"  The only positive statements we got are the usual vague platitudes about "CLarification" and "closure" This is not instilling goodwill in the fans.  RIght now they need to provide something both positive and definite that people can get behind.

"We are not providing new endings but what we can provide is [something"] And that something could be any number of things "We will explain the planet the Normandy landed on"  "The armada in the Sol system is not necesarilly doomed, you will see the aftermath of the battle"  "The conversation wit hthe WStarchild will be extended, and you will be able to ask questions"   'Shepard can survive in certain endings and be reunited with the LI (that one would be very well received, I think)

But as it is, Bioware is not giving us any reason to be excited about this DLCD, and every reason to be suspicious of it.

[Grimskull89]

iakus wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

I feel like I need to copy and paste this in every thread, but:

People need to calm the hell down. We don't even know the details of what this DLC will be, and people already want to burn BioWare at the stake for it.

True we don't know what is being put into the DLC.  But we know what isn't being put in it:

New endings
Changed endings

That leaves very little to be optimistic about until they deign to give us somthing to actually look forward to.

This. They were very clear about this... no new endings.

If this announcement today was in anyway meant to cool the fire, and announce DLC tomorrow... guess what? The community already is starting a wallet boycott.

Foul things are in the air, and Bioware lit something on fire.

[Tystra09]

Sesshaku wrote...

Well im sorry if im not happy with crap.

I can't be happy that bioware "cared enought to be even doing this". It's their jobs not charity. I don't clap on people who crossed the streets on green, its their duty to do so.
And I still want the diverse endings they promised, not a clarification of a failed ending that i suspect will not explain the plotholes. I will give them the right of doubt though, but i suspect that summer is going to be HOOOOOOOOOOTTTT.

Yes, its their job to make the game and fix some of the bugs. However, its not their job to put out free DLC to make everyone happy. Their job was to make the game, which they did. Their job is to fix the bugs, which they are having a hard time doing but none the less, they are trying. When it came to the endings, they didn't have to do anything. The reason why they did was because so many of you members of the Bioware community got your panties in a knot about the ending. Yes, the ending sucked, but a game should be remembered by overall story and gameplay. The game is good, they did a good job. The ending sucked, yes, but get over it. Now they are giving free DLC just to make all the people who cried about the ending happy. Myself, if I worked for Bioware, I would've just laughed at all the complainers and left everything as it was. Beggers can't be choosers. 

[FemmeShep]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

You don’t even know how Bioware are going to expand upon these endings. When we complained about the current ME3 endings, a lot of diehard fans called us a bunch of crybabies because we didn’t get the ending we wanted. Yet we still as we liked to call it, held the line. Now I believe it is time to sit back and see what Bioware have planned for this extended ending, because we’re lucky to get this. They could have easily just said “no, screw you, that’s our ending, live with it”. Sure, they might have lost a lot of fans but they’d still have enough to keep business afloat.

You never know, it could be expanded into like an epilogue similar to what Dragon Age: Origins did. Now DA:O essentially only had one ending (save for you living or dying, or someone else killing the Archdemon, but the big picture was that it was just one ending - the Archdemon died and the Blight ended), yet it had a massive epilogue that detailed the events of what happened after the game thanks to your character. ME3’s extended ending could have something like that, and yet while it is just basically text on a screen, I still played through DA:O loads of times just to get a different epilogue each time.

So can we just be calm for a few weeks and see what this expanded ending offers before jumping to conclusions? We wanted closure, now we're getting it. If you really honestly expected them to do something like the indoctrination theory, then let this be a lesson to you. Don't put faith in theories, no matter how convincing they may be.

I agree, to a degree.

But you also have to understand, BioWare have taken some steps so specifically say that they won't be adding anymore choices. Which means they won't be dealing with the A, B, C, ending they said we wouldn't get. They also said they won't be changing the ending (which means the ending and choices won't reflect the choices you made throughout the series).

Basically, everything they promised and broke - they aren't addressing. Yeah, it's cool they are clarifying and expanding more on the ending. It was poorly told, and it definitely needs some clarification. But how do you expect fans to not be upset at this?

Essentially, they are saying: we listened to you, we don't agree, deal with it.

[Iakus]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Anyone who thought they were going to created a completely new ending was living in fantasy land.

I'll reserve wanting to blow BioWare's headquarters up like many here before I know what the DLC will actually be.

I don't want to blow anyhting up.  I just want my money's worth for products i purchased.

At any rate, sooner's better than later for telling us what the DLC will be.  Like I pointed out in a previous post, they've told us customers a lot of "no" without telling us any "yes"  Keeping us in the dark about what to look forward to is not the way to calm people down.  The focus will continue to be what the DLC isn't until they tell us something about what the DLC is.

[Baine10]

Lumping a minority of moronic posters with the whole community is a flawed way of getting an idea of what "guys" are thinking.

Learn to read selectively, OP. You'll realize that there is more intelligence to be found.

Other than that there is no point to this thread. If you're not what he says, no need to defend yourself or others.