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[Getorex]

Stonesoundjam wrote...

When a body dies, decomposition and bacteria in the gut results in gas buildup. Sometimes expelled through the orifices.

Breath ending anyone?

Hah.  Doesn't happen that fast. 

[TsubakiYayoi]

Archon3 wrote...

TsubakiYayoi wrote...

Archon3 wrote...

Just wondering about the 'Synthesis' option. How exactly does this stop the Reapers?

Some how I can't imagine the Reapers will stop slaughtering everyone, just because you closed the gap between synthetic and organic life.

Simple the Reapers laughing themselves to death after seeing green glowy chars exiting the Normandy.

Ah Ha! The reapers greatest weekness is Humor.  What we need is an Army of Comedians.

Boo ya the jokes between Garrus and Joker are stronger than any Thanix Cannon.
What is it called when a Turian gets hit by a horrible spikey monster? (I loved that one)

[Calians]

Blazerer wrote...

http://www.oxm.co.uk...before-release/

pretty much self-explanatory

Damn....

[Calians]

jsntjia wrote...

ShuFu 7-11 wrote...

I don't get why Bioware and EA keep trying to hide behind the "artistic integrity" of an ending that has no integrity to hide behind...?

They've had a hard time drawing the starchild and editiing the explosions.... <_<

Lets not forget sprites

Modifié par Calians, 11 avril 2012 - 02:50 .

[morrie23]

I know it's not going to happen, but if you going to make me play through Cerberus Headquarters and London again to get to the clarified ending, it would be nice if you added some more content to those levels. Particularly London, which I feel should of shown our war assets going something.

[Hatire]

I don't see how this will do any good to be honest. The current ending is trash and no amount of fleshing it out is going to change that. When the plotholes, the amount of ignoring your own lore and stories, and all of the space magic involved makes anything less than a change to the ending or additional ending scenarios is just a waste of time and resources IMO.

[happy_diplomat]

Summer is a third chance undeserved, and based on lowered expectations this is the last game I will ever preorder or purchase from EA/Bioware again, so thanks for the extended cut, you didn't have to do this at all, and would've preferred it not being done if it was not part of the original plan.

[MrNose]

I hope the extended cut has some non-ending material added, like this cut convo with Ashley: http://social.biowar...ndex/11276349/1

[sf0749]

I have been studying the Codex and the planetary journals closely and doing my own research. In my opinion, the extended ending will not change the fact that the galaxy has become a wasteland if they keep the cinematic of the exploding mass relays.

In the Codex, there is a chapter called "Desperate Measures". It states that a ruptured mass relay will produce dark energy to ruin a terrestrial world. When the plates of the Titanic broke upon impact with the iceberg, that is a rupture event. A rupture is when a ductile material breaks under stress. We see in the second game the result of a minor rupture of a mass relay in the Dholen system. In that system, the star is prematurely aging into a red giant. So, in the second to best scenario, with the mass relay being shut down as the best scenario, the star in the Sol system will prematurely age into a red giant. If the rupture is more severe, the environment of Earth will be poisoned by the dark energy resulting in a extinction level event.

What we witness in the ending cinematic was exploding mass relays that each produced a shock wave that could be seen from dark space. The galaxy is destroyed.

There are other issues to be considered (the nature of space flight in a post-ending, the impact of element zero cores on a terrestrial world, etc.), but that would make this post longer.

The best solution would have been to rewrite the ending. I watched Great Expectations this week on PBS. I did some research on the novel, and found that Charles Dickens had changed the ending of the novel after a noted critic wrote that he felt the ending was too sad. In the opinion of later critics, the new, revised ending was considered the better of the two endings.

[reeot]

sf0749 wrote...

[True Stuff]

The best solution would have been to rewrite the ending. I watched Great Expectations this week on PBS. I did some research on the novel, and found that Charles Dickens had changed the ending of the novel after a noted critic wrote that he felt the ending was too sad. In the opinion of later critics, the new, revised ending was considered the better of the two endings.

Bioware, read this...

I don't even know why they are peg to their "articstic vision" (can't hear this phrase anymore -.-).
Bioware got this briliant ending from Karpyshyn which does even makes sense within the Mass Effect Universe.

And i must have overlooked this post:

Traim Eisenblut wrote...

Dear BioWare,

the artistic vision of your team corrupts and
breaks the narrative coherence of the triology. That is the central
critical failure of the games ending and it's been adressed and
explained many times over. Yet, it get's not resolved. A nonsensical and
illogical conclusion, represented by the character of Starchild, can
not be brought in line with the established lore of the franchise and
can not present continuity or closure to the audiance, no matter how
much clarification you put into it.

As this character alone is
symptomatic for the most essential cause of our dissatisfaction with the
games ending, the decision to keep him and his "solutions" (which are
also illogical and nonsensical) does not make us believe you "listened"
to us. In fact, it shows the very opposite.

As you value your
"artistic vision", even if it clearly breaks a central aspect of the
franchise and the the artwork as a whole, over the perception of your
customers, you encourage us to not purchase future Mass Effect or
BioWare productions. I will regard it further as an "informed customer
decision" that BioWare products are not meant to entertain me, but to
present and enforce a childish and in parts utterly stupid artistic
experiment on me.

Thanks no. My money is better invested in other companies.

It's the best description of how i felt about that whole controversy.

Modifié par reeot, 11 avril 2012 - 05:28 .

[Gloran89]

If this doesn't change anything, why bother?

"Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No."

I'm sorry to say but in my opinion it sounds arrogant.

Well... It is easier to say "well done team, our artistic vision is great." than to do something right. You have a good chance to fix it. Please do me a favour and take advantage of this opportunity, or you probably loose s lot of potential customers (including me). I hope you do not treat me like a some kind of terrorist or blackmailer. I'm a big fan of Bioware ... or at least I was.

[Shepard108278]

Hatire wrote...

I don't see how this will do any good to be honest. The current ending is trash and no amount of fleshing it out is going to change that. When the plotholes, the amount of ignoring your own lore and stories, and all of the space magic involved makes anything less than a change to the ending or additional ending scenarios is just a waste of time and resources IMO.

I disagree. The current ending is good it just needs a bit more added to it.

[reeot]

Shepard108278 wrote...

Hatire wrote...

I don't see how this will do any good to be honest. The current ending is trash and no amount of fleshing it out is going to change that. When the plotholes, the amount of ignoring your own lore and stories, and all of the space magic involved makes anything less than a change to the ending or additional ending scenarios is just a waste of time and resources IMO.

I disagree. The current ending is good it just needs a bit more added to it.

Honestly, it would be good for another franchise. But this ending doesn't belongs to the Mass Effect Universe.
If you play through ME1 and 2 carefully and read every single codex entry, you will recognise that the ending of ME3 has nothing to do with the franchise itself. It's wrong on so many levels.

Mass Effect was a Sci-Fi game which tries to approach everything in a scientific way.
Almost all things in this Universe were well-conceived. The mass effect, the FTL travel, space combats, weapons ammunition, language,... Even indoctrination was reasonably explained. This was a part of made this series so great. And it's the reason why i love Mass Effect so much.

I just need a reason why they had betrayed the thematic of their
franchise in the last 10 minutes of the game in such a fatal way. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]
I also hope that they release some more informations soon.. It kills me....

[Calians]

At this point even if the DLC is free I'm not wasting space for it if the crap they have is gonna get more crap on top of it. I'll wait and see if BW delivers this miracle

[kalle90]

morrie23 wrote...

I know it's not going to happen, but if you going to make me play through Cerberus Headquarters and London again to get to the clarified ending, it would be nice if you added some more content to those levels. Particularly London, which I feel should of shown our war assets going something.

That's what I'd hope for. Cerberus doesn't have much to add, but London could use cutscenes showing war assets at work, some more radio chatter involving other races (and what is Normandy doing). Perhaps some assets in the backgrounds of level as well, or screams, gunshots etc. that makes it seem like a massive battle is actually going on.

Then more dialogue for the crucible scene. Next epilogue videos for the big stuff and text/slides for smaller stuff and choices.

[Quionic]

Getorex wrote...

Stonesoundjam wrote...

When a body dies, decomposition and bacteria in the gut results in gas buildup. Sometimes expelled through the orifices.

Breath ending anyone?

Hah.  Doesn't happen that fast. 

Yes, it can. 

[Calians]

Damn I had a good picture but it keeps coming out wrong

Modifié par Calians, 11 avril 2012 - 07:29 .

[Miso1996]

 Well, I hope that you will read my response too, because I have some things to say too.
See, I always loved the games. And I still do. The ME universe is still great and not 
doomed as many people say. BUT, DO NOT STOP READING NOW, I am almost there
On the other hand, you made a mistake, that can be terrible for the next games from ME
universe. *SPOILER* For example, the Catalyst destroyed the Relays. So how can they travel now?
How can the many and many aliens near Earth go home? *SPOILER* But I am sure, that the team 
will do some artistic stuff to solve this problem. 

We do not say, that the members of the team, as you called them, are bad writers (I can imagine a 
science fiction book ending like this), but we are not satisfied on that. Many of fans have already said
that. But I look at it from a different way. You see, when the people are not satisfied, then they may
not buy another ME games (if there will be any.).

I am not trying to insult you, because you truly did a great and awesome work, but this feels like a punch into
the face. Not the endings, because you can still change them, but the fact, that you, Bioware, claim, that
there will be no new endings, because the artistic team says so. I mean, cmon!

Please consider it again, ok? Your fan (standing for many (btw Legion ))

[demont0]

Doesn't this DLC just seem like EA ruffling our hair, smiling while saying 'awww you just don't get it! don't worry I'll explain better'

if anything i am insulted by this new DLC...but only a litttle, it's still free stuff, regardless of how arrogant they are being about it.

[Futile-Effort]

Bioware,

The ending can be summed up in one word: disappointment.

1. I was disappointed with the ending.
2. My girlfriend was disappointed with the ending.
3. My 13 year old son was disappointed with the ending.

Since my whole household was disappointed, I cannot imagine that all of the Bioware employees were ecstatic about the ending when it was unveiled internally. Did no one speak up? Did no one point out the flaws in the story, or that Starchild was downright insulting to people who have played this franchise?

Feeling that the original of my 3 choices couldn't be the actual ending, I went back and did the multiplayer portion, getting galactic readiness to 100% and re-did the ending. "Hey, the synthesis ending should be much different!" Wait, green light this time? Wait, how is Garrus on the Normandy when he was on my squad in London?

This ending is a travesty, especially after shelling out for the Collector's Edition, as well as all the ME2 DLC in anticipation of ME3's release.

Expanding on the current ending is not good enough. It needs to be re-done completely. This cannot be how Shephard's journey ends.

[Belhawk]

His ending is stupid. It would be like ending return of the jedi with having a group of templar knights hacking Emperor to pieces with steel swords.

[I Xandra I]

Futile-Effort wrote...

Bioware,

The ending can be summed up in one word: disappointment.

1. I was disappointed with the ending.
2. My girlfriend was disappointed with the ending.
3. My 13 year old son was disappointed with the ending.

Since my whole household was disappointed, I cannot imagine that all of the Bioware employees were ecstatic about the ending when it was unveiled internally. Did no one speak up? Did no one point out the flaws in the story, or that Starchild was downright insulting to people who have played this franchise?

Feeling that the original of my 3 choices couldn't be the actual ending, I went back and did the multiplayer portion, getting galactic readiness to 100% and re-did the ending. "Hey, the synthesis ending should be much different!" Wait, green light this time? Wait, how is Garrus on the Normandy when he was on my squad in London?

This ending is a travesty, especially after shelling out for the Collector's Edition, as well as all the ME2 DLC in anticipation of ME3's release.

Expanding on the current ending is not good enough. It needs to be re-done completely. This cannot be how Shephard's journey ends.

I feel your pain... :'(

[wulfbur]

no endiing change

never again will I purchase a bioware game - even cancelled my TOR subscription
Artistic vision is BS done by a lackluster developer who had no concept of the game.

Bioware can sink like a concret slab in the ocean - not one more penny will they ever get out of me until they make this right.

[fr33lancer969]

I liked machinima's explanation of how the ending was decided. Bioware had just finished the scenes leading up to the three choices and then all of a sudden an EA representative walks in and says, "hey guys we at EA really love your mass effect series and even more we love how much money we're making! So we did you guys a favor and wrote a wonderful ending that will leave the ending open to future mass effect games so we can get even more!

[Fr0stbitten]

interesting!