Archon3 wrote...
SamRI wrote...
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The apparent abandonment of what had seemed to be the core ethical themes of the series
Paragon Shepard wants to work with others. The paragon path through each Mass Effect game focuses on fighting prejudice and building a community, getting all races to work together to save everyone.
Except that, in the end, it's just Shepard, deciding between three choices all deeply unpalatable to a paragon: slavery (of the reapers), genocide (of the geth), or a galaxy-wide dark age brought about by the destruction of the mass relays and (by inference given the fate of the Alpha Relay in Arrival) the deaths of billions in the star systems containing them. With Shepard's previous actions seemingly making no difference to that eventual choice, as noted above, much of the motivation to become a paragon is gone.
This would have been entirely mitigated had Shepard been able to exercise the sort of free will alluded to throughout the series (Garrus railing against C-Sec red tape, the events on Aiea, the cause of the Dawn War et al). But Shepard meekly accepts the options proffered for a resolution of the conflict. The Catalyst doesn't even face questions about possible alternatives. That doesn't sound at all like the Shepard I played -- and it doesn't reflect the underlying philosophy I'd assumed had run through the Mass Effect series. As a result, the ending felt like a betrayal of the games' values.
Proposed solution: I can't think of a full fix that would fall within the stated ambit of the Extended Cut, which is a very great shame. But if Shepard did at least try to find a fourth option in the DLC and failed, I'd find the characterisation more consistent. Paragon Shepard states in the Collector base that being true to oneself is important, and I entirely agree.
[/list]In closing, I'm not expecting "sunshine and bunnies", to borrow Joker's phrase, from the DLC. War can be bleak, and that must apply on a very large scale indeed to galactic total war. But I would greatly appreciate a conclusion to my very favourite series of games that does justice to its brilliance -- an end that tells me what happened to my friends and companions, that really does reflect how I played.
Short of Altering every game throughout the entrie series, I can't see how any explanation for the sudden appearence of the "Starchild / Space ghoast/ Catylist" or the sudden change in the story's focus can be resolved.
By the way how did the Main Villians of the series (The Reapers) get reduced to being nothing more than glorified vaccume cleaners. I thought the Reapers where ment to be highly intelligent and superior beings?
Sovereign: "My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation -
independent, free of all weakness. You cannot grasp the nature of our
existence."
Sovereign: "There is realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot
even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign."
There it is, the the whole "You cant comprehend" speech, given by Harbinger and Sovereign.
If it was the Indoc. Theory, then Shepard is indoctrinated and is being made fun of by Harbinger.
If its not..... then we can easily comprehend that they were created by the space ghost. I dont see whats hard to comprehend of that exsistence..... This is one part that confused me immensly.
Also, I play paragon with a bit renegade (if you punch the reporter hehehe). I feel as though I have done so much, that when it comes to the end I either forfeit my body twice for what appears to be a happy ending? Or go along with the always renegade ending that all default Shepards playthrough as (can be seen if you start mass effect 2 & 3 that Shepard kills the council and keeps the base). I feel as though thats what Bioware does everytime, they want to make you do the bad thing at the end to continue the cliffhanger. Since they said this was the end of Commander Shepard, I highly doubt that. They said they were going to go to comics? They still are I imagine. But I can still see there being a Mass Effect 4 with a catchy name after it, like this:
"Mass Effect 4: The Return of Sheperd"
I dont know, but I think that they either make the ending go along with lore more, go to the indoc. theory, or many other things. But all I can say is this, if there, in anyways is going to be another Mass Effect where Shepard animates from the dead, expect me to buy it, pre-order it, play it, judge it, then see where it leads.
I like this series a lot honestly, the ending will not impede future buying of the retail games. But if the ending is still sh*t, then expect me to change my mind. An ending to an epic doesnt always have to be the same Bioware, with death and stuff. Yes, it may go against the genre of writing, but who cares? As long as their is something to make it less confusing, please, just throw it at our face. I want to see where this DLC will give us...... Just expect a harsh juding from now on with all of your games that you release.
Edit:
Bioware, you can obviously see us begging,,,,,, and I am sure you know that some of your thinkers in the community(or crazy ones) think that there will be more to this DLC than meets the eye. It may be called the
"Extended Cut" but other than the ending, what else are you extending? What are you going to be adding in? You obviously cant tell us, but we speculate. But if its just a simple extension and making us wait a couple months..... I cant see why you cant just use CGI or simple music editing and adding in scenes between files or however it is done.
Obviously, you are adding something. All I have to say for now. We are onto you. If you try and make this ending, on what it actually was supposed to be in the first place, I would gladly give you the biggest man kiss to each of you in the office. If you make all the promises you gave come true, like the rachni and stuff being in the ending, big man kiss fo you.
But if this ending is just filled with a bullcr*p ending with just stuff you tweak........ forget it. You wont even be getting a hug. You may have made it more cooler and more comprehensible, but no, no hug no nothing.
Just give us the ending we deserve.... please....
Modifié par Deltakarma, 12 avril 2012 - 03:05 .