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[wolfstanus]

If bioware pulls this off... It will be the best troll ever.

[adrian07ch]

Cheburator987 wrote...

adrian07ch wrote...

demonuswolfus wrote...

For all the griping folks are putting out, me being one of them, they are never going to "Change" the ending, they are just going to expand the thing to answer questions, so don't expect it to change. Furhter, i'm hoping this DLC doesn't screw up the game further like the face import patch ahs done.

The fans don't hope for a new ending, we DEMAND for a new ending because we deserve it and because we were promised what we didn't recieve.

Keep shouting in the air.You can demand all you want.Doesn't mean you'll get it.

     

Well, if we got them to explain us of why their sh*t smells so bad, it doesn't mean they won't also replace that smelling sh*it eventually.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

I think it's a good test and chance for the writers to really show their chops. They have another shot at the ending with the Extended Cut... let's hope they do it justice...

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 20 avril 2012 - 02:58 .

[Stronglav]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

I think it's a good test and chance for the writers to really show their chops. They have another shot at the ending with the Extended Cut... let's hope they do it justice...

Hopes are so fragile.  LOL
No.Again,ending will not be changed.I am tired repeating myself.
Instead you will get more cutscenes.  

[Surprise Guest]

Please please please get rid of the synthesis option, there is so much wrong with it thematically and conceptually. It is beyond bad science fiction. Also the normandy and crash landing scenes seemed really unnecessary and badly done. What's the motivation behind it? There are far better (and less overdone) ways to depict the rebirth of civilization, which I'm guessing is what you were attempting to do.

In regard to the catalyst conversation I really hope you flesh it out into something far more interesting, synthetics/organics felt really forced and out of the blue. Perhaps more of an emphasis on the need for control over chaos might work better. The notion that the reapers could be from beyond our galaxy and our realms of knowledge was really interesting in ME1, it was really disspointing that they got reduced to being the servants of a really overdone and rather simplistic concept.

[Cloudwulf]

I know that BW said that they are not going to change the ending, but i still hope for some brain raining down into their heads and give us the real thing. I know they will possible not and then i will hold my Wallet. No further DLC for ME3 and DA3 and so on...

[Mr.Niko]

I belive BioWare will make a good ending. I will probelby throw money at them even if its bad. I love Mass Effect to much to start hating it becasue of a few plot holes.

[Stronglav]

Cloudwulf wrote...

I know that BW said that they are not going to change the ending, but i still hope for some brain raining down into their heads and give us the real thing. I know they will possible not and then i will hold my Wallet. No further DLC for ME3 and DA3 and so on...

It's not about the brain.It's about the money and CO permission.

[zoompooky]

Mr.Niko wrote...

I belive BioWare will make a good ending. I will probelby throw money at them even if its bad. I love Mass Effect to much to start hating it becasue of a few plot holes.

A few??

[SpartanCommander]

One large thing if that since they said they are keeping the current ending then they better explain why no matter what you choose it leads to a major desaster.

Modifié par SpartanCommander, 20 avril 2012 - 01:19 .

[docsteely]

I consider this DLC a final chance for Bioware to repair a relationship that I consider broken. If they fail (and given their overall insulting and condescending attitude, chances are they probably will), I'll never buy another title by Bioware.
And that is coming from someone who spent thousands of dollars on their titles and derivatives since 1998.
As in every relationship, you have to know when to walk away.

[Yusarian]

DownyTif wrote...

If the IT theory is a reality, I don't want an Extended cut. Because the real ending is coming in a DLC (and it's better be free (the DLC), cause if they charge 10$ for it, it's seriously evil and wrong. It will not be "Art", it will be strategic marketing, the kind that makes me sick.)

According to the announcement, there are no further ending DLC's planned. The Extended Cut is all we're going to get and since Jennifer Hale said in an interview earlier this month that she hasn't been approached by Bioware to record new dialogue, it would appear that the Extended Cut isn't going to add any new dialogue at all unless that dialogue is in the form of a previously deleted scene. I'm anticipating some shiny new cut scenes on the end, a few deleted scenes being reintroduced and maybe a written epilogue, but that's about it.

If the Indoctrination Theory were real, they would be announcing that they were introducing new content, not that they're so very proud of and committed to their artistic integrity. I'm sorry, I was one of the ones hoping it was real too, but it looks like IT is dead in the water. Don't get your hopes up.

[Thanatos144]

I started another ME2 char so I can play ME3 with an import. The DLC will be cool but it isnt needed. Those of us who didn't have to high expectation and a don't need a nurse to wipe off drool like it.

[IS1991]

perhaps your choices will effect ending cutscenes which will provide an outllok fo the galactic situation ten years on. For me that would be enough to satisfy. I will forgive the plot holes. I would like an explanation fo the child and catalyst looking like dream child thta would be nice. Maybe Im asking too much?

[AlanC9]

Yusarian wrote...
The Extended Cut is all we're going to get and since Jennifer Hale said in an interview earlier this month that she hasn't been approached by Bioware to record new dialogue, it would appear that the Extended Cut isn't going to add any new dialogue at all unless that dialogue is in the form of a previously deleted scene.

This doesn't necessarily follow. When that interview happened they wouldn't have even had a script. But if that's still the story in a couple weeks.. yeah, no new Shep lines.

[Running Heron]

I still have secular faith that Bioware will do right by the core fans. If not, then no more Bioware or EA products for me. Which sucks, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

[Rotkaepchen]

Thanatos144 wrote...

I started another ME2 char so I can play ME3 with an import. The DLC will be cool but it isnt needed. Those of us who didn't have to high expectation and a don't need a nurse to wipe off drool like it.

If the DLC doesn't deliver anything else as "clarification", I agree with you - we don't need it.

Still, I'm terrible sorry that some of us had indeed high expectations from a BW game - I promise, it won't ever happen again.

[thunderhawk862002]

Yusarian wrote...

DownyTif wrote...

If the IT theory is a reality, I don't want an Extended cut. Because the real ending is coming in a DLC (and it's better be free (the DLC), cause if they charge 10$ for it, it's seriously evil and wrong. It will not be "Art", it will be strategic marketing, the kind that makes me sick.)

According to the announcement, there are no further ending DLC's planned. The Extended Cut is all we're going to get and since Jennifer Hale said in an interview earlier this month that she hasn't been approached by Bioware to record new dialogue, it would appear that the Extended Cut isn't going to add any new dialogue at all unless that dialogue is in the form of a previously deleted scene. I'm anticipating some shiny new cut scenes on the end, a few deleted scenes being reintroduced and maybe a written epilogue, but that's about it.

If the Indoctrination Theory were real, they would be announcing that they were introducing new content, not that they're so very proud of and committed to their artistic integrity. I'm sorry, I was one of the ones hoping it was real too, but it looks like IT is dead in the water. Don't get your hopes up.

Just like no ending DLC's were planned originally?  The clarification was the smartest move to make.  It will (hopefully to them) please enough people that they can move on with other DLC.  They have our gameplay statistics so they'll probably know if enough people are satisfied with the product.  They probably have an idea of how many people they need to win back in order to be successful.  If they don't hit that target it wouldn't surprise me if they do end up making different endings.  

[DownyTif]

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Yusarian wrote...

DownyTif wrote...

If the IT theory is a reality, I don't want an Extended cut. Because the real ending is coming in a DLC (and it's better be free (the DLC), cause if they charge 10$ for it, it's seriously evil and wrong. It will not be "Art", it will be strategic marketing, the kind that makes me sick.)

According to the announcement, there are no further ending DLC's planned. The Extended Cut is all we're going to get and since Jennifer Hale said in an interview earlier this month that she hasn't been approached by Bioware to record new dialogue, it would appear that the Extended Cut isn't going to add any new dialogue at all unless that dialogue is in the form of a previously deleted scene. I'm anticipating some shiny new cut scenes on the end, a few deleted scenes being reintroduced and maybe a written epilogue, but that's about it.

If the Indoctrination Theory were real, they would be announcing that they were introducing new content, not that they're so very proud of and committed to their artistic integrity. I'm sorry, I was one of the ones hoping it was real too, but it looks like IT is dead in the water. Don't get your hopes up.

Just like no ending DLC's were planned originally?  The clarification was the smartest move to make.  It will (hopefully to them) please enough people that they can move on with other DLC.  They have our gameplay statistics so they'll probably know if enough people are satisfied with the product.  They probably have an idea of how many people they need to win back in order to be successful.  If they don't hit that target it wouldn't surprise me if they do end up making different endings.  

That's my thinking also. The EC wasn't planned because they thought the ending was ok the way it was. Now, about a planned DLC from the beginning? EC is released because it's too hard to make all the connections from various hints. They want to make the connections easier to introduce properly a planned DLC about the post final choice you have at the end.

Anyway that's my opinion, so I may be wrong a lot. And if IT is destroyed by the EC and they intended to finish ME3 with huge plotholes, non-sense and fans interpretation, that's going to be a HUGE mistake.

EDIT: And I think they underestimated the bad publicity Bioware has suffered since DA2,  Origin, ME3 MP, Day 1 DLC. From my point of view, prior to those events, Bioware (especially the ME team) had a perfect score (in the story department) and almost all people were trusting them blindly. Now, that trust was shaken and people accept the fact without hesitation that they failed hugely on the most critical part of the whole trilogy, after delivering a huge amount of highlight scenes in the 3 games, instead of trying to find hints and hope and trust. But that's another debate entirely.

Modifié par DownyTif, 20 avril 2012 - 07:54 .

[Yusarian]

AlanC9 wrote...

This doesn't necessarily follow. When that interview happened they wouldn't have even had a script. But if that's still the story in a couple weeks.. yeah, no new Shep lines.

You may be right, we'll have to wait and see what happens.

Realistically though, if this thing were going to include new dialogue and also be out this summer, I think they'd already have approached JH before making an announcement and if that were the case, why wouldn't they tell us? It could only be to their advantage to let the raging fans know.

As you said, we'll see soon enough, but I don't expect to be surprised.

EDIT:

DownyTif wrote...

thunderhawk862002 wrote...

Just
like no ending DLC's were planned originally?  The clarification was
the smartest move to make.  It will (hopefully to them) please enough
people that they can move on with other DLC.  They have our gameplay
statistics so they'll probably know if enough people are satisfied with
the product.  They probably have an idea of how many people they need to
win back in order to be successful.  If they don't hit that target it
wouldn't surprise me if they do end up making different endings.  

That's
my thinking also. The EC wasn't planned because they thought the ending
was ok the way it was. Now, about a planned DLC from the beginning? EC
is released because it's too hard to make all the connections from
various hints. They want to make the connections easier to introduce
properly a planned DLC about the post final choice you have at the end.

Anyway
that's my opinion, so I may be wrong a lot. And if IT is destroyed by
the EC and they intended to finish ME3 with huge plotholes, non-sense
and fans interpretation, that's going to be a HUGE mistake.

EDIT:
And I think they underestimated the bad publicity Bioware has suffered
since DA2,  Origin, ME3 MP, Day 1 DLC. From my point of view, prior to
those events, Bioware (especially the ME team) had a perfect score (in
the story department) and almost all people were trusting them blindly.
Now, that trust was shaken and people accept the fact without hesitation
that they failed hugely on the most critical part of the whole trilogy,
after delivering a huge amount of highlight scenes in the 3 games,
instead of trying to find hints and hope and trust. But that's another
debate entirely.

The announcement says in pretty unambiguous terms that they're not changing the endings, simply adding closure to the ones we already have, and that they have no plans to release another ending DLC after this. Indoctrination Theory would fall under the heading of "planned ending DLC". And if they were going to release an IT DLC, why would they also release the Extended Cut? Why spend time and money to make two DLC's when you would need only one to explain IT and make the necessary connections? There's simply no reason for it. I'm sorry, but what you're saying sounds like wishful thinking to me.

I do agree with you that they completely underestimated just how frustrated their consumer base has been. A lot of the things they've said and done lately have shown a big disconnect from their fan base, this announcement's veiled condescension included. <_<

Modifié par Yusarian, 20 avril 2012 - 08:39 .

[DownyTif]

Yusarian wrote...

The announcement says in pretty unambiguous terms that they're not changing the endings, simply adding closure to the ones we already have, and that they have no plans to release another ending DLC after this. Indoctrination Theory would fall under the heading of "planned ending DLC". And if they were going to release an IT DLC, why would they also release the Extended Cut? Why spend time and money to make two DLC's when you would need only one to explain IT and make the necessary connections? There's simply no reason for it. I'm sorry, but what you're saying sounds like wishful thinking to me.

I do agree with you that they completely underestimated just how frustrated their consumer base has been. A lot of the things they've said and done lately have shown a big disconnect from their fan base, this announcement's veiled condescension included. <_<

You have a point, and a strong one. At the moment, I can't argue with since I don't have a counter argument hehe. Oh well...

[thunderhawk862002]

Yusarian wrote...

The announcement says in pretty unambiguous terms that they're not changing the endings, simply adding closure to the ones we already have, and that they have no plans to release another ending DLC after this. Indoctrination Theory would fall under the heading of "planned ending DLC". And if they were going to release an IT DLC, why would they also release the Extended Cut? Why spend time and money to make two DLC's when you would need only one to explain IT and make the necessary connections? There's simply no reason for it. I'm sorry, but what you're saying sounds like wishful thinking to me.

I do agree with you that they completely underestimated just how frustrated their consumer base has been. A lot of the things they've said and done lately have shown a big disconnect from their fan base, this announcement's veiled condescension included. <_<

Yes but I thought beforehand that they said that all DLC would take place before the ending.  It was either before or after launch.  Then the outrage continued to grow and finally they said ok, we'll do clarification but we're not changing the endings.  So unless I've remembered wrong they already went back on their official stance.  It wouldn't surprise me if they do it again if financially necessary.

Edit: Just because they said it doesn't mean they'll actually follow through.  If they announce that the extended cut is all we'll get then hopefully that'll bring enough people back.  They're hoping that enough people say ok, that's good enough for me.   But what if a significant portion still isn't pleased?  Will EA and BioWare decide to cut their losses or will they decide, ok, maybe we do need to add more choices for the endings.

Modifié par thunderhawk862002, 20 avril 2012 - 09:43 .

[RiouHotaru]

You know, it's possible they HAVE approached Meer and Hale and they just aren't allowed to discuss it.