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[nikita1707]

I am unbelievebly disappointed in the ending. I really hoped that i would get a dlc which adds some more gameplay. But instead some pitty cutscenes. Mass effect 3 ending really ruined my attitude towards the bioware.
Bioware, you just better hope than one of the angry fans is not in Anonymus organization. If they are you may have problem in the future.....

[nikita1707]

I am unbelievebly disappointed in the ending. I really hoped that i would get a dlc which adds some more gameplay. But instead some pitty cutscenes. Mass effect 3 ending really ruined my attitude towards the bioware.
Bioware, you just better hope than one of the angry fans is not in Anonymus organization. If they are you may have problem in the future....

[cyrslash1974]

Meeting of 4 hours have been planned today in BW office to discuss E-C DLC (tweet from Mike Gamble). I hope that BSN topics have been seriously considered...

[DownyTif]

^^ At this point, I don't care if they take an idea from BSN, implement it and lie that it was planned from the beginning to not loose the face. I just want something else tgan what we have now! Anything will be better.

[Ericus]

DownyTif wrote...

^^ At this point, I don't care if they take an idea from BSN, implement it and lie that it was planned from the beginning to not loose the face. I just want something else tgan what we have now! Anything will be better.

Agreed - as long as it's a good quality ending, it really doesn't matter where the initial ideas came from.

[darthnick427]

I'm really hoping this DLC will show my war assets actually making a difference in the battle. Not just the same damn cutscenes show me different cutscenes based on who I brought to the battle!! Show me Wrex, Grunt, Jack, Kirrahe, Aria, Zaeed, and Samara totally kicking Reaper ass! Show me a few Geth Colossus and Primes totally owning a Harvester and have a Geth helping a Quarian repairing a turret. Show me a Krogan saving a Salarian from Marauder at the last second. Have a Rachni Brood Warrior pop out of the ground and rip a Brute in half! Show a Turian, Human, and Batarian all back to back frighting off husks. Show some Drell assassin's sniping in the back ground along with some Elcor living tanks!! Show the Merc groups fighting!! Have the Vorcha swarm a group with a few Krogan and trained Varen with them! Show me Eclipse fighting with Mechs giving fire support. Show me the Blue Suns lighting reapers troops on fire with Pyro troopers! Show me the military force I made mattered and isn't just getting slaughtered at every turn! I'm fine with casualties but show more kick ass before the reaper destroyer starts owning everything.

Everything else with the ending will be fine as long as they: fill the plot holes, clearly explain everyone isn't stuck on Earth and intergalactic travel and cooperation is still possible, and completely take out the Normandy stranded scene. It makes no freaking sense and is the main burning reason I loathe the current ending. Everything else is fine. But Please take out the god awful Normandy stranded scene.

Modifié par darthnick427, 21 avril 2012 - 03:08 .

[nighthoof]

http://www.bbb.org/b...etter-or-worse/

[levyjl1988]

It will be kinda sad if Bioware releases the extended cut DLC and it doesn't live up to can expectations. If it still doesn't address the loopholes, the coherence in the story, context etc then that would mean that Bioware has not listened to fan feedback, that Bioware is not addressing the issues in hand and in turn will mean Bioware cannot in turn resolve things. Words mean nothing, action means everything. Bioware's chance at redemption is when this DLC hits summer. I remember when there were PR announcements of how the end will factor on your choices. This has been disproved. If that was bad enough the team working on Dragon Age 3 is also in pickle. DA2 was good but disappointed some fans... fans won't take this lightly... already there has been so much backlash for Bioware...
-The Mass Effect novel not taking into cosider lore leading towards a book burning
-First day DLC having important story based information and charging gamers
-Mass Effect 3 Ending
-EA getting worse company of 2012 by Consumerist...
and a ton more....

[cisco0623]

 Heres the logic. If this ending was planned to be cryptic as it is and they are doing an me4 (continuing from this story)... why would they be having a 4 hour meeting about extended DLC to clarify it? lol And why release a $60 and $80 game that doesn't give you the real meat of the final plot and ending. To put it in a DLC would just be unethical, unless it arcs to another game (surprise) like the arrival did between 2 and 3.

I have a feeling one DLC was going to be about what Liara, Garrus etc do afterwards. Maybe some species did know how to duplicate mass effect jumps etc. They can really go anywhere with it to be honest.
The logical answer is simply we got what we got and for some insane reason they didn't foresee their fans getting this irate over it. 
Unreal how such an amazing series did a 180 at the end in the entire gamely mechanic and story lol 
Funny what other users said, when there was no planet mining at all, and no hacks to open safes etc, I was disappointed. It became more like COD or any other game. Less story and eploration, more linear. The side quests were a joke compared to 1 and 2, maybe because it was the last game and they had no way to add depth to stretch it out?

Now that i think back ME2 blows ME3 out of the water. Like others have said it just seems like since EA got their paws on Bioware the quality has gone down. Even tho the game was delayed once, I'll bet vital parts of my anatomy the people working on this franchise wanted more time, but simply were not given it by the bean counters. Honeslty when I first launched the game and they ditched the insanely cool title song for, I dont even know what. I knew to exepct less lol
I hope for one thing. Whatever meetings Bioware may be having about this, I hope their employees and the few people who make the real decisions do read these comments, but I want them to take a step back and realize their fans are doing this because we ARE loyal. We simply expected and want more. You would never see this kind of out cry for any other game unless Nintnedo mad Mario an furry animal and Zelda died lol Basically this entire situation is a compliment to their work.

The best chance they have to spin this in every direction posative would be at E3. Literally say, we DO have plans, but yeah, looking back we def dropped the ball a bit on relaying that to the players. Explain the extended cut is being done to fill in the plot for ME3, but then drop ME4 on everyone (as was hopefully planned).

Look at it this way. No matter what happens in the future, if here is great DLC after, or ME4, 5,6 etc. Everyone will always say. how amazong ME is, but damn 3 was weak with that retarted ending. lol

[Gunblade7303]

I dont post on here often, but this is ridiculous, We where flat out lied to, we have been given the shaft in more then one way. I have been a ME fan for years, and this ending feels like a betrayal, It was flat out said that we would not get an A B C ending, well, thats what we got, If this is there version of "Art", the same three endings but with different colors, well, they have a bad taste of art, Look at Fallout 3, did there writers feel they had "Artistic integrity" When they changed there ending? Hell no, they knew they are making a product, A product fans wanted a better ending for, and by god we got it, and it was great, I know some fanboys and fangirls will call me a troll for this, but take off your Bio-Goggles and look if something else did this, would you sit back and take it? Hell no, you would fight, all of our choices went down to nothing. Thats not just low, thats just down right disrespectful to the people that gave you litterley MILLIONS for your games, and you give us this pile of rat crap for an ending? No, we dont want you to expand on this ending, we dont want the freaking starchild, we dont want red blue and green endings,we want better endings. Bioware, You should be ashamed of yourselfs for giving us this crap, you lied to us, you teased us by saying you where listening, and now you say this. Be asure that ME3 is the very last Bioware game I will buy, You have lost a once loyal fan and a former supporter of your work, I loved Jade Empire, I loved KOTOR, and ME1 and ME2 are some of my favorite games, but I cant look at them the same again because i know what the ultimate outcome will be. The minute EA took you over you went on a downword spiral, Lets not forget the Reapers logic in doing what they do. Here, Ill come up with a new reason right on teh spot for what they do. They know they are the most powerful beings in The Milky Way, so they harvest sentient creatures to make new reapers so they can make bigger armies and better mass effects to travel to other Galaxies to take them over, They want to be the Penultimate beings in all of the Universe. Cheese? yes, very, but its a far far better reason then the crap you threw at us. You know why EA was voted the Worse Company? Because of **** like this. Be warned Bioware, You will go the way of all the other companies EA have bought in the years, Your already going down that road.

[Saodade]

I just hope that because of stuborness or too much pride or whatever reason they have, they won't end like Rich Ross from Disney studios...Even if we were told words to make us thinks things (based of previous experiences) and that EA and co decide to not do anything or not allow bioware the ressources needed to change the bads, it would be a real waste of talent

[Naughty Bear]

When Bioware said there will be no gameplay, does dialogue choices count as gameplay? I hope dialogue choices are in.

[Stronglav]

Biogays are done for.I will not buy theyr games ever again and also couple hundred other russian
gamers.We are turning our attention to Bethesda.

[Fedi.St]

Ι think the ending will be bearable if:

1)Personalization of choices is achieved.

2)You keep your artistic integrity, only if you manage to remove the space magic explanations of the catalyst and expand into logical conclusions based on the whole concept of ME trilogy which was really coherent and honest to its technological/story lore.


You want to do this through IT. Fine. You don't . Again fine. But if you fail to correct the above 2 points there's no point in hell even playing the multiplayer. Be reasonable and stop hiding behind your ego.

Modifié par Fedi.St, 21 avril 2012 - 11:38 .

[Rasofe]

Fedi.St wrote...

Ι think the ending will be bearable if:

1)Personalization of choices is achieved.

2)You keep your artistic integrity, only if you manage to remove the space magic explanations of the catalyst and expand into logical conclusions based on the whole concept of ME trilogy which was really coherent and honest to its technological/story lore.


You want to do this through IT. Fine. You don't . Again fine. But if you fail to correct the above 2 points there's no point in hell even playing the multiplayer. Be reasonable and stop hiding behind your ego.

Meh, space magic explanations are okay when they don't conclude in something that feels aweful i.e. destruction of the mass relays or the end of galactic diversity.
Bioware should've explained what the choices did more diversely, made the choices synthaxx with the choices made throughout the game, and had more logical tradeoffs - without using the Starchild as a medium.

So the Destroy ending should've been about destroying Reaper Tech, and only in this case do the Relays get destroyed (and, lets say, if you sacrificed the quarians, the Geth too, because of... because I feel like it should be so) as a symbol of relinquishing the Reapers completely.

The Normandy Marooned sequence can/should be cut completely, but they've made it pretty clear they won't change that. So it feels like they're going to ignore character focus completely.

[TigusVidiks]

Most of what I've been reading here about new endings or explanations about the existing one are nothing but wishful thinking.
They won't change the final. They won't add more endings. They will ONLY squeeze more info into the existing cutscenes , basically.
Mass Effect 4 will never exist. Thsi story arc is over, as they said over and over. Commander Sheppard 's story is over. There will be more ME titles, having this universe as base, but to tell other stories from that universe. Kind of like Resi 4, 5, 6, being one story arc, and Resident Evil -ORC being another different story in the same universe.
I'm willing to bet they are going to drop the RPG genre for this IP, and take permanently into the shooter genre.
That said, and with this in mind,, there are a lot of things they can do. Go back in time and make a game about the first contact war. Visit the Krogan Rebelions. The human war with the Batarians. There's a lot to pick from.
As for the DLCs for ME3, I bet you can count with 1 being the recovery of Aria T'loak 's Space station.
Another will surely be a confrontation with Harbinger.
The rest is anyone's guess.

[OlympusMons423]

I kind of worry about design by committee projects. It tends to get things watered down. I work in a creative art department and I have seen some kick ass ideas get shot down by some regional manager who just didn't like something about it. There are dangers too with it in only one set of hands too, which I've heard is what happened with this ending...

Oh God, I hope they do a good job with the extended cut. I have my checklist of what I;d like to see it include. For me I want some scenes on the garden planet, with voice talent, that sum it up in a very personal way (especially if the love interest is there)

Many battle scene described above are good too. but for me it was that face to face stuff we got all along that gave this game such life and a reason to fight for something. I can play out scene in my head like I'd like to see them, but that's my slant on this. I hope BioWare does not assume some explosions and scrolling text will be enough.... If something like IT were true, even though I don;t like the idea of buying the real ending....I would feel better about things overall. The ending we got is still such a kick in the crotch just thinking about it

[vinhnt.ng]

lol DLC extended cinematics
wth are you think EA and bioware ?
i'm extremely disappointed with the ending of MS3 as well as your reaction to our response to the ending of MS3. No combat gameplay from DLC ? Mass effect 3 ended just like that ? Nothing clear at all.
So let get this straight, where the hell is the scene from the trailers that shepard with allies attacked husks brutes on earth in daylight ? It was so emotional, so epic so wonderful and i really excited to play MS3 that moment. But what i got in MS3 ? Shepard and allies sneaked like bugs in mid night to take down a reapers, no allies at all, every troops i saw in the gameplay died in front of my eyes 2 secs after, so what the hell is all races, all galaxy, only shepards and 2 companions =)) omg this is ridiculous, so what's the trailer about ? EA you are liars, all you want is our money while you can not sastified anybody with MS3
bioware you should not continue co-op with EA anymore cause every game EA touched is crap. Look at deadspace 2, dragon age 2, crysh*t 2 and now MS3
EA worst company of the year, full of idiots !

Modifié par vinhnt.ng, 21 avril 2012 - 01:24 .

[mmm buddah23]

darthnick427 wrote...

I'm really hoping this DLC will show my war assets actually making a difference in the battle. Not just the same damn cutscenes show me different cutscenes based on who I brought to the battle!! Show me Wrex, Grunt, Jack, Kirrahe, Aria, Zaeed, and Samara totally kicking Reaper ass! Show me a few Geth Colossus and Primes totally owning a Harvester and have a Geth helping a Quarian repairing a turret. Show me a Krogan saving a Salarian from Marauder at the last second. Have a Rachni Brood Warrior pop out of the ground and rip a Brute in half! Show a Turian, Human, and Batarian all back to back frighting off husks. Show some Drell assassin's sniping in the back ground along with some Elcor living tanks!! Show the Merc groups fighting!! Have the Vorcha swarm a group with a few Krogan and trained Varen with them! Show me Eclipse fighting with Mechs giving fire support. Show me the Blue Suns lighting reapers troops on fire with Pyro troopers! Show me the military force I made mattered and isn't just getting slaughtered at every turn! I'm fine with casualties but show more kick ass before the reaper destroyer starts owning everything.

Everything else with the ending will be fine as long as they: fill the plot holes, clearly explain everyone isn't stuck on Earth and intergalactic travel and cooperation is still possible, and completely take out the Normandy stranded scene. It makes no freaking sense and is the main burning reason I loathe the current ending. Everything else is fine. But Please take out the god awful Normandy stranded scene.

Wow, you read my mind down to the freaking T. >_< Exactly what i was thinking.

[Fedi.St]

Rasofe wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

Ι think the ending will be bearable if:

1)Personalization of choices is achieved.

2)You keep your artistic integrity, only if you manage to remove the space magic explanations of the catalyst and expand into logical conclusions based on the whole concept of ME trilogy which was really coherent and honest to its technological/story lore.


You want to do this through IT. Fine. You don't . Again fine. But if you fail to correct the above 2 points there's no point in hell even playing the multiplayer. Be reasonable and stop hiding behind your ego.

Meh, space magic explanations are okay when they don't conclude in something that feels aweful i.e. destruction of the mass relays or the end of galactic diversity.
Bioware should've explained what the choices did more diversely, made the choices synthaxx with the choices made throughout the game, and had more logical tradeoffs - without using the Starchild as a medium.

So the Destroy ending should've been about destroying Reaper Tech, and only in this case do the Relays get destroyed (and, lets say, if you sacrificed the quarians, the Geth too, because of... because I feel like it should be so) as a symbol of relinquishing the Reapers completely.

The Normandy Marooned sequence can/should be cut completely, but they've made it pretty clear they won't change that. So it feels like they're going to ignore character focus completely.

As I said they can do whatever they want. WHATEVER. It just has to fulfills the above 2 parameters. The above 2 parameters can be found in all the customers' complaints. We ask for coherence,result of our actions and a proper logical and based on the technological lore resolution.

They have artistic intergrity but we have to save our intelligence integrity too and not allowing any "Bioware" insulting it. 
:devil:

[Thanatos144]

Hey if you dont like the game then stop playing it. It is that simple. The whole I will never buy another Bioware game is just melodrama. I didnt like MGS2 but didnt stop me from getting the following two. I still dont like FF 13 but I will still play the others. So I dont know who you think your bull ****ing cause we all know if Bioware comes out with a cool game you will all buy it.

[SalsaDMA]

Thanatos144 wrote...

Hey if you dont like the game then stop playing it. It is that simple. The whole I will never buy another Bioware game is just melodrama. I didnt like MGS2 but didnt stop me from getting the following two. I still dont like FF 13 but I will still play the others. So I dont know who you think your bull ****ing cause we all know if Bioware comes out with a cool game you will all buy it.

You really outdid yourself this time thana.

Basicly you're telling people to shut up and act like cashcows..

How insightfull of you...

The melodrama is purely caused by EA/Bioware not treating the product like what it is: A respectfull consumer product. If they had, they would have done things (both prior to launch, at launch and after launch).

If I buy a candybar and there is something wrong with it compared to what I was advertised it would be, I can contact the company responsible and I will either get a refund or they will replace the product with a non-flawed version.

Bioware, instead, claimed that there was nothing wrong, despite it being clear as daylight to everyone that they failed to deliver the product they said they were selling people.

[Fedi.St]

hey thanatos. I really don't understand what's your point(like the endings). Although I won't demand a dlc clarification of your post because I'm indifferent to what you say.

!

[TakezoDunmer2005]

 Thank you Bioware for at least trying to do the right thing, now all you have to do is take your best and brightest, jump ship, and strike out on your own and start a new company ala' Piranha Bytes, either that, or join up with Obsidian! 

Modifié par TakezoDunmer2005, 21 avril 2012 - 05:00 .

[-Carver-]

Be ready for the new ending :
Before we've got the Red/Green/Blue ending but with the dlc we can have the amazing 1/2/3 ending !!!
And stop complaining with spacemagic because we're not enough smart to understand it ^^
(ok, i stop it...)