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[Stronglav]

What I want to see in the eding of the third and final game of the Mass Effect series is a consiqences of my actions!!!
I want a full epilogue in which(like DAO)I will be told how I infuelnced the ME universe.
My english is not so good so it is difficult for me to describe.
I want to see what heppens to "Normandy" crew after the battle!!1
And of course my love interest.And so much more.

[Anjeel]

Derek Larke wrote...

 An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the "Extended Cut" will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it's at no cost to you - the fan.

Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't:

What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?
For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey.[/list]
Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.[/list]
What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.[/list]
When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?
Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.[/list]
Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?
Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story.[/list]
So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.

Be good to each other and Summer is coming...

Is the EC going to explain why my Shep's love interest, Ashley, ran off and boarded the Normandy when we were charging into the light beam to be transported to the Citadel?  Will it explain why in the middle of the fight for Earth, Joker picked up some of the crew and ran away?

[ames4u]

Roll up! Roll up!! Bioware's giving away another kick to the face! For FREE this time!!

Aren't you all just SO excited to have more 'Artistic' bs shoved down your throat~? It's all going to boil down to this; Space Magic and more contrived plotholes big enough to fit Bioware's ego through it. If it failed before, it can't possibly fail again!! 

Hey Bioware, while your digging yourself a deeper grave, mind fixing the god damn EMS BS because multiplayer should not effect the bloody outcome of my SINGLE PLAYER game!

So Starchild is still there, Space Magic is still there, A, B,C ending is still there and plotholes bigger than my cushy ass are still there-----did they listen to a single f**king thing that people were saying? Or were they too busy listening to the ones sympathising with their BS excuse of 'Artistic Integrity' and said to themselves, "Yeah! your right! Why should we give our paying customers what we promised them?" 

See thing is, there is no integrity in this game. There is no Integrity with how they've responded, slandered, and ignored the problems that are still going to persist and plague this franchise and its creator's for years to come. And I can promise Bioware one thing only, from this point forward, I (and no doubt a number of other ex-fans) will be going out of our way to make sure no one ever forgets this when they try to sell another one of their corn filled turd of a game (DA3 for example) on this you have my solemn oath. I do this for that illusive but very important thing called 'Customer Satisfaction', that appears to be non-existant in this game or the previous two games they've released so far.

Modifié par ames4u, 13 mai 2012 - 10:53 .

[ames4u]

Persephone wrote...

darkness reborn wrote...

AND....

....Bioware has shot itself in the foot once more.
(Damn, how many times can someone shot themselfs in the foot before they learn that its a bad thing. LOL)

Yes. A free DLC is a horrid thing to do.

HORRID!

Yeah, because the fact that it's free couldn't possibly be raising any red flags. If it was worth having, they'd be charging us for it. The fact that they aren't speaks volumes. I say it's a farce, an attempt to placate the mob and save face. Which it is.

I could be wrong, but the fans will be more than happy to inform everyone whether its a worthless pile of garbage, and I won't be touching it until they do.

[NegInfinity]

VRtheTrooper wrote...

you can't tell an artist to change his painting once it is haning in a gallery, just because you don't like it. 

Actually you can. If you dislike the picture you can voice your opinion, providing feedback to the author. The author can use your opinion to improve his skill and see if his picture produces effect he wanted to achieve. The author can also ignore your opinion. As far as I know there were painting that were modified later. Also, in music world there was famous example where Beethoven has removed dedication to Napoleon Bonoparte from one of his symphonies.


If you remember history of Sherlock Holmes, then you should know that Conan Doyle kept writing stories because there were "fans" of Sherlock Holmes and they wanted to read more stores, even though Conan Doyle actually killed Sherlock Holmes in one of his books. So "fans" can 
actually influence artist or writer. However, writer/artist can also ignore opinion of his fans.

Darth Death wrote...

1. The artist & painting analogy doesn't work since the gaming industrial is more "design" centric than art. Videogames are not art. 

Some of Videogames are art - good ones. Some of videogames are not art - bad ones. Ending has quality of a very bad "sci-fi" movie, so I can't call this ending "art". The rest of the game was on the "art" level.

Darth Death wrote...

2. BioWare isn't entitled to do what they want.

They are, if they own rights to Mass Effect 3.  Somebody owns the right to Mass Effect. That person or organization can do whatever he/it wants with franchise, completely ignoring every opinion out there. Of course, there might be some consequences for doing that (loss of customer trust), but aside from that, yes, they can do what they want.

Roboviking wrote...

This isn't a painting that people are failing to interpret. The game is more like someone commissioned you make a water vessel for them.  

 

You have it backwards. RPG-game is like a book. There was an author, he wrote a great book, so you waited till he/she writes "part 2" and then "part 3". After years of waiting, you got your hand onto part 3, and realized that last chapter is bad. So you complain about the lousy endings to your friends and tell them not to buy it. That's about it. Movies are also similar.

Your "vessel" argument is flawed, because bioware did not sign contract with you to create fictional world that will please you. Fans didn't pay bioward to make a game. They bought previous games after they were released. Based on sales, company that calls the shots realised that there is interest for the franchise, and tried making one more game, hoping that it will generate similar revenue. I.e. you don't hire them to make a "water vessel" for you. First they make that "water vessel" they think people will like, and after that they try to sell it to everybody they see. If you don't like it - don't buy it. Aside from that, I'm sure there's something like "no warranty of any kind" somewhere within license agreement you accepted. "vessel" argument applies to game engine only, and I honestly don't remember any game-breaking bugs in ME3. The "vessel" floats, if you don't like its looks, it is your problem.

Honestly, I would prefer better much better ending to ME3. Current one doesn't live up to the quality of previous Mass Effect games. However, at this point I think it won't be possible to fix this mess, so I'm not expecting anything at all. I'd advise to forget about ME3 and move on to other things. Once "new ending" will be released, I'll check it out, but at this moment I don't expect anything good from it. So you'll probably have to "roleplay that it didn't happen".

[Thanatos144]

ames4u wrote...

Roll up! Roll up!! Bioware's giving away another kick to the face! For FREE this time!!

Aren't you all just SO excited to have more 'Artistic' bs shoved down your throat~? It's all going to boil down to this; Space Magic and more contrived plotholes big enough to fit Bioware's ego through it. If it failed before, it can't possibly fail again!! 

Hey Bioware, while your digging yourself a deeper grave, mind fixing the god damn EMS BS because multiplayer should not effect the bloody outcome of my SINGLE PLAYER game!

Then dont play it.

[Stronglav]

Thanatos144 wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Roll up! Roll up!! Bioware's giving away another kick to the face! For FREE this time!!

Aren't you all just SO excited to have more 'Artistic' bs shoved down your throat~? It's all going to boil down to this; Space Magic and more contrived plotholes big enough to fit Bioware's ego through it. If it failed before, it can't possibly fail again!! 

Hey Bioware, while your digging yourself a deeper grave, mind fixing the god damn EMS BS because multiplayer should not effect the bloody outcome of my SINGLE PLAYER game!

Then dont play it.

Then don't reply.

[M8DMAN]

I wanted a Seven Samurai style ending, what I got was SPACE MAGIC in three different colors.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 13 mai 2012 - 08:12 .

[UltimateTobi]

I want the EC, damn it.

[KuzonDragon]

Do you think in the Extended Cut back grain? I think if anyone is able to rectify the situation as soon as it is.

[ames4u]

Sorry forgot I had made a previous post and have put the comment in there instead.:innocent:

Modifié par ames4u, 13 mai 2012 - 10:50 .

[ames4u]

Thanatos144 wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Roll up! Roll up!! Bioware's giving away another kick to the face! For FREE this time!!

Aren't you all just SO excited to have more 'Artistic' bs shoved down your throat~? It's all going to boil down to this; Space Magic and more contrived plotholes big enough to fit Bioware's ego through it. If it failed before, it can't possibly fail again!! 

Hey Bioware, while your digging yourself a deeper grave, mind fixing the god damn EMS BS because multiplayer should not effect the bloody outcome of my SINGLE PLAYER game!

Then dont play it.

I wont be. I'm just going to continue to bait and troll Bioware sympathisers like you for fun. 

Modifié par ames4u, 13 mai 2012 - 11:00 .

[ames4u]

Cheburator987 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Roll up! Roll up!! Bioware's giving away another kick to the face! For FREE this time!!

Aren't you all just SO excited to have more 'Artistic' bs shoved down your throat~? It's all going to boil down to this; Space Magic and more contrived plotholes big enough to fit Bioware's ego through it. If it failed before, it can't possibly fail again!! 

Hey Bioware, while your digging yourself a deeper grave, mind fixing the god damn EMS BS because multiplayer should not effect the bloody outcome of my SINGLE PLAYER game!

Then dont play it.

Then don't reply.

Bioware sympathiser's can't help but try to put out the fire for their overlords. Me? I just take a perverse pleasure in baiting them so that the trolling can begin.  

The game failed to entertain me, but the sympathiser's? They're fun to toy with for a half hour or so. 

[Max Knight]

ames4u wrote...

Persephone wrote...

darkness reborn wrote...

AND....

....Bioware has shot itself in the foot once more.
(Damn, how many times can someone shot themselfs in the foot before they learn that its a bad thing. LOL)

Yes. A free DLC is a horrid thing to do.

HORRID!

Yeah, because the fact that it's free couldn't possibly be raising any red flags. If it was worth having, they'd be charging us for it. The fact that they aren't speaks volumes. I say it's a farce, an attempt to placate the mob and save face. Which it is.

I could be wrong, but the fans will be more than happy to inform everyone whether its a worthless pile of garbage, and I won't be touching it until they do.

i think it more of the PR move than anything because it will be good people will be like "Oh BW so great for giving them a free DLC that fixes endings,or what it will do
and if bad people will be " those people are ungratful the get it for free and still ****ing soo it is ,in my opinion, a win win situation for them soo.

[ames4u]

sean10mm wrote...

I've found an excellent translation of Bioware's statement from corporate double-talk to English. Enjoy!

Through ignorance, either willful or unintentional, we here at Bioware have completely failed to grasp why a vast, vocal part of our fan-base didn't enjoy the ending to Mass Effect 3. As a solution to this, we're going to further develop and explain the ending that almost nobody liked, completely ignoring the varied, incisive, and entirely justified criticisms we've received. Instead, we're offering a compromise that will literally pacify no one, and will, in all likelihood, do more harm than good. We understand that you have complaints, but art. Thank you for giving us all that money, and please give us some more in the future contrary to logic or good sense.

......I love you!! 

[ames4u]

Max Knight wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Persephone wrote...

darkness reborn wrote...

AND....

....Bioware has shot itself in the foot once more.
(Damn, how many times can someone shot themselfs in the foot before they learn that its a bad thing. LOL)

Yes. A free DLC is a horrid thing to do.

HORRID!

Yeah, because the fact that it's free couldn't possibly be raising any red flags. If it was worth having, they'd be charging us for it. The fact that they aren't speaks volumes. I say it's a farce, an attempt to placate the mob and save face. Which it is.

I could be wrong, but the fans will be more than happy to inform everyone whether its a worthless pile of garbage, and I won't be touching it until they do.

i think it's more of a PR move than anything because good people will be like "Oh BW is so great for giving them a free DLC that fixes those endings," and if its bad people will be saying " those people are ungrateful! they get it for free and they're still b****ing!" soo it is, in my opinion, a win win situation for them soo.

Yeah I caught that too. Even though they're hoping to exploit the 'we did what they wanted but they are just so hard to please and ungrateful, and picking on us, boo hoo' it won't work 100% because there are some decent journo's who've actually looked into the situation (forbes) and sided with those who issued complaints. And even if it somehow works, the fans they stepped on will remember this farce and return to flame the living hell out of any upcoming games Bioware will release. It's what will happen in the near future that Bioware needs to be concerned about, and I daresay this PR stunt is their attempt to stop that from happening.

:happy:

Modifié par ames4u, 13 mai 2012 - 11:32 .

[Max Knight]

ames4u wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Persephone wrote...

darkness reborn wrote...

AND....

....Bioware has shot itself in the foot once more.
(Damn, how many times can someone shot themselfs in the foot before they learn that its a bad thing. LOL)

Yes. A free DLC is a horrid thing to do.

HORRID!

Yeah, because the fact that it's free couldn't possibly be raising any red flags. If it was worth having, they'd be charging us for it. The fact that they aren't speaks volumes. I say it's a farce, an attempt to placate the mob and save face. Which it is.

I could be wrong, but the fans will be more than happy to inform everyone whether its a worthless pile of garbage, and I won't be touching it until they do.

i think it's more of a PR move than anything because good people will be like "Oh BW is so great for giving them a free DLC that fixes those endings," and if its bad people will be saying " those people are ungrateful! they get it for free and they're still b****ing!" soo it is, in my opinion, a win win situation for them soo.

Yeah I caught that too. Even though they're hoping to exploit the 'we did what they wanted but they are just so hard to please and ungrateful, and picking on us, boo hoo' it won't work 100% because there are some decent journo's who've actually looked into the situation (forbes) and sided with those who issued complaints. And even if it somehow works, the fans they stepped on will remember this farce and return to flame the living hell out of any upcoming games Bioware will release. It's what will happen in the near future that Bioware needs to be concerned about, and I daresay this PR stunt is their attempt to stop that from happening.

:happy:

personaly thou i hoep that the EC will be at least some good because i saw some realy good FAN MADE  epilogue generator. So i stil have some,naive, hope that it will work out.

[Oriaphyn]

 How much longer will we have to wait for this DLC?

[dweomer]

Oriaphyn wrote...

 How much longer will we have to wait for this DLC?

The longer you have to wait for it the better you can reasonably expect it to be.

[ames4u]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

UntalkativeBunny wrote...

DoctorEss wrote...

It was already statistically shown that
people who liked the nonsensical ending were the minority, not the
other way around.

An online poll isn't a statistic, nor was flooded bad reviews or anything else that was done because people thought the ending was "so bad" they went ballistic.

The total amount of people who post online about ME3 and take part in all this BS are barely 10% of the total amount of people who have purchased the game.

An online poll doesn't really rate anything. Mass Effect 3's sales have been through the roof. There's your indication.

You just shot yourself in the foot. To even post in the Bioware ME3 forums you have to have bought the damn ****pile of a game, activated and verified it THEN posted complaints. So your comment doesn't hold water. On other sites, you'd have a higher percentage of being right, on this forum. Nope. 
<_<

[ames4u]

Max Knight wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Persephone wrote...

darkness reborn wrote...

AND....

....Bioware has shot itself in the foot once more.
(Damn, how many times can someone shot themselfs in the foot before they learn that its a bad thing. LOL)

Yes. A free DLC is a horrid thing to do.

HORRID!

Yeah, because the fact that it's free couldn't possibly be raising any red flags. If it was worth having, they'd be charging us for it. The fact that they aren't speaks volumes. I say it's a farce, an attempt to placate the mob and save face. Which it is.

I could be wrong, but the fans will be more than happy to inform everyone whether its a worthless pile of garbage, and I won't be touching it until they do.

i think it's more of a PR move than anything because good people will be like "Oh BW is so great for giving them a free DLC that fixes those endings," and if its bad people will be saying " those people are ungrateful! they get it for free and they're still b****ing!" soo it is, in my opinion, a win win situation for them soo.

Yeah I caught that too. Even though they're hoping to exploit the 'we did what they wanted but they are just so hard to please and ungrateful, and picking on us, boo hoo' it won't work 100% because there are some decent journo's who've actually looked into the situation (forbes) and sided with those who issued complaints. And even if it somehow works, the fans they stepped on will remember this farce and return to flame the living hell out of any upcoming games Bioware will release. It's what will happen in the near future that Bioware needs to be concerned about, and I daresay this PR stunt is their attempt to stop that from happening.

:happy:

personaly thou i hoep that the EC will be at least some good because i saw some realy good FAN MADE  epilogue generator. So i stil have some,naive, hope that it will work out.

If i'd been playing the PC version, I would've been hunting down some modders who can overhaul the ending and replacing it with something far, FAR better. Unfortunately I have the xbox version. I'd love to say the DLC could save their hides by being brilliant, but I'm just not that far into my madness to ever believe such a thing. The fans who download it will be more than happy to air their impressions on it, but all sign's so far are pointing to 'bullcr*p'. I'm not touching the DLC unless the recommendations are practically glowing. I'd rather waste time messing around playing Minecraft.

[Stronglav]

I'll forever remember Bioware's antics-you know what I'm referring to right? How the Bioware bigwigs took everyones issues with the game and wiped their backsides with it? That's what they called 'listening to the fans'. Because that's what this Extended Cut DLC is. Tell you what Bioware; you keep your Artistic Integrity and I'll keep my money (2)

[Iron_Sheik]

Oriaphyn wrote...

 How much longer will we have to wait for this DLC?

A release date would be nice

[ile_1979]

NegInfinity wrote...


Your "vessel" argument is flawed, because bioware did not sign contract with you to create fictional world that will please you. Fans didn't pay bioward to make a game. They bought previous games after they were released. Based on sales, company that calls the shots realised that there is interest for the franchise, and tried making one more game, hoping that it will generate similar revenue. I.e. you don't hire them to make a "water vessel" for you. First they make that "water vessel" they think people will like, and after that they try to sell it to everybody they see. If you don't like it - don't buy it. Aside from that, I'm sure there's something like "no warranty of any kind" somewhere within license agreement you accepted. "vessel" argument applies to game engine only, and I honestly don't remember any game-breaking bugs in ME3. The "vessel" floats, if you don't like its looks, it is your problem.

Honestly, I would prefer better much better ending to ME3. Current one doesn't live up to the quality of previous Mass Effect games. However, at this point I think it won't be possible to fix this mess, so I'm not expecting anything at all. I'd advise to forget about ME3 and move on to other things. Once "new ending" will be released, I'll check it out, but at this moment I don't expect anything good from it. So you'll probably have to "roleplay that it didn't happen".

Tell that to the people that preordered (and didn't like it), i'm pretty sure they will regard it as a comissioned work. Some were lucky and waited for the game to come out. Some (and i was almost one of them) weren't so lucky. 

[Voodoo2015]

Come on BW/EA! Release the EC so I can watch it on Youtube.