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[napushenko]

Cheburator987 wrote...

It's not about closure only.It's about a ENDING of the game.
Consiquences of our actions.
Fate of our companions.
And the fate of all the races we've helped over three games.

think those will be explained with more info and gameplay  in expansions & dlc-s ? 

[Armdevil]

seriously BIOWARE, you have till summer to sort this out. Dont extend upon the travesty of that ending. Change it. It makes no sense, its completely out of character and it reduces every decision made in the gameS up untill that point moot. If this DLC doesnt sort these issues out im done with this company.

[AlanC9]

Armdevil wrote...

seriously BIOWARE, you have till summer to sort this out. Dont extend upon the travesty of that ending. Change it. It makes no sense, its completely out of character and it reduces every decision made in the gameS up untill that point moot. If this DLC doesnt sort these issues out im done with this company.

Change it... how?

[Shepard108278]

Armdevil wrote...

seriously BIOWARE, you have till summer to sort this out. Dont extend upon the travesty of that ending. Change it. It makes no sense, its completely out of character and it reduces every decision made in the gameS up untill that point moot. If this DLC doesnt sort these issues out im done with this company.

They can't and won't change it and I fully support that decision. As long as they explain a few things about the ending I'm happy.

[NeroSparda]

Shepard108278 wrote...

Armdevil wrote...

seriously BIOWARE, you have till summer to sort this out. Dont extend upon the travesty of that ending. Change it. It makes no sense, its completely out of character and it reduces every decision made in the gameS up untill that point moot. If this DLC doesnt sort these issues out im done with this company.

They can't and won't change it and I fully support that decision. As long as they explain a few things about the ending I'm happy.

Hopefully it won't make anymore plot holes... Or make it ultimately that for the first time, our truly choices didn't really matter...

[Repearized Miranda]

AlanC9 wrote...

Repearized Miranda wrote...

^ By my interpretation. It won't kill me if they don't go with it whereas some who don't may go ape**** if they do go with it.

It'll ****** people off either way and this is why some folks were against the clarification thing because it may do more harm than good.

You've seen the replies to emphasize it from both parties.

I think that's probably true, which is my best guess as to why Bio doesn't want to clarify IT's status before the EC ships. All that would do is hurt one side without delivering any real benefit to the other.

Matter of when isn't even considered though. Look at all who called: DEM, McGuffins, Space Magic - long before the game came out and while they're right, they're still upset and with good reason. Given all of that if IT isn't the reason this stuff happened, which is where the "bad writing" is coming from!

The Reapers are a clearly malignant race of sentients; however, they're not? Somebody is being played and honestly no way could the writing be that ridiculous. If IT comes out to be true, but the same dumbing down of the Reapers still happens - I'm definitely inclined to believe it was bad writing. Yet, I think BW is too smart to do such a thing!

IOW, we're really kicking and screaming because we've been had!! And that's not a bad thing!

I may be grasping at straws here, but I do think this is what happened! They played us and we're mad though that was the intention!

"We want the player to feel what Shepard does!" I reckon s/he'd be pissed after being played if s/he fell for it - which means some players fell for it, too! (And it's evident given some of the responses).

I bet this is what the EC will show/tell us, but to those who got it, won't be pissed - compared to those you didn't or didn't want to.

A comedian doesn't explain his or her jokes as a magician doesn't reveal his or her tricks to do the trick, The audience must pick up on them. You can explain a few things alluding to the trick or punchline, but you don't reveal them until the timing is right - even if some of them have caught on.

The timing was perfect in this case, but most should have caught on - but "you don't know until it's too late!"

They IT up to a T - and riling folks up was a pretty nice bonus!!

Yes, this seems ironic that I believe in the IT, but don't believe in magic; however, IT is a pretty clever magic trick! Yet, they left us privy to all the details (codex, in-game visuals, dialogue, etc.) so it really wasn't a trick at all.

Like if you actually took Starchild to heart! Most know he is clearly lying! If you spent disproving the other villians previously (and in real-time), why should he be any different?

On delivering benefits, well, I think all of us know that you can't please everybody; however, the problem is when you try because it becomes worse. I doubt they're oblivious to that fact though regarding the quote about the ending. Even inside the fanbase, everyone wants something different and that's hard enough, but that base and outside of it?

So, yeah, EC the olive branch is a good idea. How good of an idea is it? is the question. It still probably won't help either since most people have already made up their minds on the matter.

[BabylonClo]

I want to believe - and it being free is nice. But if it's only cutscenes and cinematics, and no gameplay, I don't think it'll do much good. Seeing cut scenes that attempt to explain the current ending won't really make any difference at all. I, for one, want to pick up Shepard again and be able to DO SOMETHING, to kill stuff, to argue and shout, to do what Shepard does best.

While I'm dreaming, I was really kind of hoping to get the chance to kick Harbinger's ass, ater he taunted me constantly throughout ME2.

[napushenko]

BabylonClo wrote...


While I'm dreaming, I was really kind of hoping to get the chance to kick Harbinger's ass, ater he taunted me constantly throughout ME2.

This. I mean whats the point of him then anyway. You never see him in entire game and hes supposed to be big baddy from ME 2.  And why does he conventienly leave just as you wake up. Couldnt wait a minute more or something ? 

Grh, hope theres explanation and that Shep will at least cinematically kick his ass 

[Darth Malice113]

napushenko wrote...

BabylonClo wrote...


While I'm dreaming, I was really kind of hoping to get the chance to kick Harbinger's ass, ater he taunted me constantly throughout ME2.

This. I mean whats the point of him then anyway. You never see him in entire game and hes supposed to be big baddy from ME 2.  And why does he conventienly leave just as you wake up. Couldnt wait a minute more or something ? 

Grh, hope theres explanation and that Shep will at least cinematically kick his ass 

Not only was Harby in your face thoughout ME2, but in the ME3 codex he is described as being the oldest and largest Reaper in the whole armada. And they don't do anything with it! WTF?

I mean what's the point of that?  Baffling.

[Almighty_Hoogs]

Just going to throw this into the mix. I think Harbinger is the first,the original reaper.I just blew your mind

[venom56321489]

They just keep putting dlc out for multiplayer and know they are pushing the animated dragon age movie dawn of the seeker. They can just forget it I am holding the line I will not buy it. If I want a dragon age experience I will go with bethesda and skyrim.

[Eudaemonium]

Almighty_Hoogs wrote...

Just going to throw this into the mix. I think Harbinger is the first,the original reaper.I just blew your mind

I think that's kinda what everyone thought. The WTF is that BioWare did absolutely nothing with this plot point.

[Homebound]

is bioware going to charge the players for the fix?

[venom56321489]

by the time the fix comes out, it will be too late. They have lost many fans, and game has dropped in price faster then even x-men destiny. Thats bad.

[TomY90]

jojimbo wrote...

come on BW, where the hell is this supposed EC dlc??? i want to be able to not have to bother coming here, so hurry up and get it done and over with, the final nail.

I am going to support bioware on this one, they are still developing it, probably past writing stage now, and either nearly finished or finished artist impressions of locations the extended cut will show and how they have changed. Perhaps more likely they are in the very early stages of creating the scenes. (I admit I am guessing this one) 

But I will say its best to be patient on this one because we want them to get it right this time (no chance of getting a 3rd attempt on this one), I know I would rather it be finished later but higher quality than rushed.

[Kungfu Nando]

It would also help if they added some codex changes to make the post relay world more accepted and believable. Even doing something like having Liara, or a few STG guys commenting on developing newer and faster drives would help.

Add the mass effect kinetic buffer things from the Art book in the Citadel or make a reference to them in game, would help sell that as well. I don't understand why a lot of these thins were left out considering how big the codex was this time with "useless" stuff like Known Associates. Secondary entries don't need voice overs so it shouldn't be that hard to add a few.

Some plot holes are not that large and could be easily filled, as they were just kinda lazy.

[AlanC9]

Kungfu Nando wrote...

It would also help if they added some codex changes to make the post relay world more accepted and believable. Even doing something like having Liara, or a few STG guys commenting on developing newer and faster drives would help.

Meaning that the ME universe is just unacceptable if it really does now take 15-20 years to get from Earth to, say, Thessia? (That's maximum theoretical -- to do that would require mapping the space between first so you know where to discharge your core and scoop fuel).

Reapers could do it in half the time, without needing fuel or discharge points.

[Uccio]

Derek Larke wrote...

 Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.[/list]
Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?
Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3.

I thought Bio was in business of making games, not art. Still glad I saved my 50eur and did not buy this art.


Just saying.

Modifié par Ukki, 16 mai 2012 - 06:50 .

[Darth Death]

People here are getting their hopes up. If you hated the current endings, chances are the EC won't do much to remedy the issue. You're not getting a new ending, but a few cutscenes clarifying the already established endings. The EC is really for those who found the conclusion of ME3 good or at least decent.

[ChristianTh]

Well, this is like an old love. You always keep the hope that it will get better again but sometimes you realize that there was never a chance.
Most will accept a try to fix what happend, but what ever happens we woun' t loose that feeling BW fooled us and when the Extendedcut does not meet the expectations we will give another company the chance to earn our money.

[Stronglav]

ChristianTh wrote...

Well, this is like an old love. You always keep the hope that it will get better again but sometimes you realize that there was never a chance.
Most will accept a try to fix what happend, but what ever happens we woun' t loose that feeling BW fooled us and when the Extendedcut does not meet the expectations we will give another company the chance to earn our money.

Like "cough" Betheshda or a "cough" "cough" Obsidian.
Bioware are not the only one who can make a great RPG games.
Biogays age is over.It's Obsidian time. 

[Biokiipper]

These endings made me to decide NOT to buy ANY Dragon Age game. At least it served for something.

[Biokiipper]

Cheburator987 wrote...

ChristianTh wrote...

Well, this is like an old love. You always keep the hope that it will get better again but sometimes you realize that there was never a chance.
Most will accept a try to fix what happend, but what ever happens we woun' t loose that feeling BW fooled us and when the Extendedcut does not meet the expectations we will give another company the chance to earn our money.

Like "cough" Betheshda or a "cough" "cough" Obsidian.
Bioware are not the only one who can make a great RPG games.
Biogays age is over.It's Obsidian time. 

That a valid thougth... If the others companies create a very good game and turn it into  a series, ME3 DLC wont be needed... Thats kinda sad... But true.

[Lycius]

Cheburator987 wrote...

ChristianTh wrote...

Well, this is like an old love. You always keep the hope that it will get better again but sometimes you realize that there was never a chance.
Most will accept a try to fix what happend, but what ever happens we woun' t loose that feeling BW fooled us and when the Extendedcut does not meet the expectations we will give another company the chance to earn our money.

Like "cough" Betheshda or a "cough" "cough" Obsidian.
Bioware are not the only one who can make a great RPG games.
Biogays age is over.It's Obsidian time. 

Obsidian is the posterchild for taking great games and making completely pathetic sequels. NWN2 anyone? EA's managed to destroy yet another great developer.