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[Eralrik]

I'm currently on my 3rd play through of the game but I never finish the game by jumping into the light, I end my games before that final stupid insulting space magic ending. I leave myself an air of mystery to solve in my own mind.
The Extended Cut DLC won't change the current ending and I may try the free dlc but in the end if I still continue playing ME3 and I don't like the EC I'll just end my games where I leave em before the space magic begins.
Now Space Magic would be fully plausible if this was Dragon Age: Origins in space, but I currently can't ascribe to the Crucible being God who can change all life in the Galaxy faster than what was written in the bible.
If Bioware offered a DLC that wiped the old ending away and came out with a new ending pack at a later date in a year or so I would buy it.

[Getorex]

prothy.the.prothean wrote...

How about instead of working on an extended cut, BioWare, you work on the damn Black Hole glitch so some of us can actually get to the ending in the first place? Seriously, a 92 page thread deserves your attention, you know so maybe you could stop ignoring those who pay your bills.

You are VASTLY better off not being able to get to the end.  At least you with the glitch have a real ending...one you can fill in entirely in your own mind and doesn't include star retards, magic, illogic, contradiction up the yingyang, etc.  You are still pristine and pure, not sullied by the Big Stoopid.

[LostInReverie19]

I'm not holding any hope for this EC. After reading the post in the News forum about how they are so proud of their ending and their "artistic vision", I've decided enough is enough. I'll play the games I already have, but I'm done buying anything from BioWare. I'm not giving them any more of my money.

[TigusVidiks]

[quote]Sejborg wrote...

[quote]ElChipmunko wrote..

I have a few questions.

"Synthetics will always destroy organics."

Why? Evidence?  (I understand the reason given, however, this is still a generalization, and may not hold true if we consider all synthetics might not be alike (e.g. Heretics vs. Geth).
[/quote]

t beginning of the cycles is the evidence. When it all began a synthetic race were about to destroy all life. A solution was fouind, and the cycles began. Heretics, Geth and EDI could not considered back then, because they didn't exist. ''

 when it all began, they could not predict EDI, or the Geth and the Herectics.And so what did they do? Honestly, i don´t know.
If they did an AI, thay you know as the starchild, it's ridiculous right from the start. An AI is suposedly self-awareand self-determined. Otherwise, it's a VI (Virtual Inteligence).
So, if it'a actually an AI, it could self-improve and make it's own decisions. After all in it's own words, it  controls the reapers, so being an AI it could have always changed the behavior of the Reapers if it wanted. And, considering that acording to the ME lore, the reapers and the collectors were observing and studing in detail all of the organic life evolution and achievements (often showing detailed knowledge about Shepard, humans, Cerberus, Geth, Krogan, any organic species or   uals in general) this means that the Starchild would have known about the new developments in the AI's in this cycle.It would have known about the geth, the herectics and EDI at the very least. So being an AI could have changed it's behavior in controling the Reapers. Also, if he controls the reapers they have no free will. So, they are really virtual inteligences, not AI.  This is all according with ME 1 and 2 lore.
The other hipotesis is that strchild is not an actual AI, but simply a VI ( like Avina in the Citadel).
In that case, if I already had a problem with Shepard accepting all the ''reasons'' and 3 choices given by the starchild without trying to counter argument, or even think about some other solution, for beingagainst story and Shepard's character,  to me it's impossible that Shepard would accept it from a VI. 
Anyway, my point is that not only the end is actually bad (both as writing as in gameplay), also, if you try to scratch just a litle in the surfice and think just a litle in what you know of the Mass Effect lore, and it´s not even consistent. It's what I call bad. Sorry.

[Shepard108278]

Getorex wrote...

prothy.the.prothean wrote...

How about instead of working on an extended cut, BioWare, you work on the damn Black Hole glitch so some of us can actually get to the ending in the first place? Seriously, a 92 page thread deserves your attention, you know so maybe you could stop ignoring those who pay your bills.

You are VASTLY better off not being able to get to the end.  At least you with the glitch have a real ending...one you can fill in entirely in your own mind and doesn't include star retards, magic, illogic, contradiction up the yingyang, etc.  You are still pristine and pure, not sullied by the Big Stoopid.

The ending is not stupid IMO it was very good it just needs a few holes filled.

[Shepard108278]

Eralrik wrote...

I'm currently on my 3rd play through of the game but I never finish the game by jumping into the light, I end my games before that final stupid insulting space magic ending. I leave myself an air of mystery to solve in my own mind.
The Extended Cut DLC won't change the current ending and I may try the free dlc but in the end if I still continue playing ME3 and I don't like the EC I'll just end my games where I leave em before the space magic begins.
Now Space Magic would be fully plausible if this was Dragon Age: Origins in space, but I currently can't ascribe to the Crucible being God who can change all life in the Galaxy faster than what was written in the bible.
If Bioware offered a DLC that wiped the old ending away and came out with a new ending pack at a later date in a year or so I would buy it.

They won't do that and I don't agree with your take.

[Eralrik]

Shepard108278 wrote...

Eralrik wrote...

I'm currently on my 3rd play through of the game but I never finish the game by jumping into the light, I end my games before that final stupid insulting space magic ending. I leave myself an air of mystery to solve in my own mind.
The Extended Cut DLC won't change the current ending and I may try the free dlc but in the end if I still continue playing ME3 and I don't like the EC I'll just end my games where I leave em before the space magic begins.
Now Space Magic would be fully plausible if this was Dragon Age: Origins in space, but I currently can't ascribe to the Crucible being God who can change all life in the Galaxy faster than what was written in the bible.
If Bioware offered a DLC that wiped the old ending away and came out with a new ending pack at a later date in a year or so I would buy it.

They won't do that and I don't agree with your take.

I agree to disagree with you and you likewise with me.

But it all boils down to the fact they ran out of room in the programing when they implemented Multiplayer an so shortend Single player and took liberty's with their own story line as if they haven't even played or wrote the other 2 Mass Effects, as well as programming Kinect into the game to make it that much grander.

I love Mass Effect 3 but I won't play the ending's, I see them as lets finish this quick and put God in the mix as a child and give em their choices A,B or C and call it good. <How ever you shovel crap it's still crap when it hits the ground.>

[Macro Dude]

Is this really the answer? Please say this is NOT the final word on "THE ENDINGS". As a big fan of the games I have played AND oun from BW / EA , if this is the final word on endings for this franchise I will be very hurt, and will no longer purchase any titles from this company.

Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't:

What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?
For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey.



If that is all you have to offer then this DLC better rock my socks off literally.

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.



I'm am sorry but this isn't artistic, to fans of this franchise, it is utter sacrilage. By making this statement in this FAQ you have effectivly said, "Yes we're listening but we don't care about you fans because we think our "artistic" view is fine just as it is, and you (the fans who were suckerd into paying for this game) are a bunch of low-brow, cry-babys. Personaly I find that rather insulting. We, for the most part are not children, and are of above avrage inteligence, and don't deserve to be pandered to. We fans, have come to love this character we have worked so hard to build up through 3 long games in this franchise, only to have him / her tossed onto the garbage heap.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.



I'm sorry but this is completely unaccepable. You mean to tell me, you couldn't have written at least one ending that brings Shepard a final TRUE victory? This comming from some of the most talented game writers on or off the planet? I mean common, Shep's been through hell and back,(and we the fans, right along with him/her), the least you could do for the guy/gal would be to let him retire peacefully with his love intrest in that little house with the white picket fence.

When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?
Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.



Like I said before, "It better rock my socks off",because if after I have seen this "EXTENDED CUT" and find it's still lacking, I for one will never spend another dime on any product from BW / EA ever again.

Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?
Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story.



Say have you people ever heard the saying "Pride goes before the fall"? To be fair, the journey was an absolute rush, and I appriciate all the hard work and effort that went into the ME games, but why crush out the single candle with a frickin, sledge hammer.

So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.

I find this somewhat confusing. You say you appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to you by your fans, but in that same statement you say, that you WILL NOT provide any new endings to the game. Saddly what most of us want is the very thing you are refusing to give us. You flat out refuse to give us a true victory for our Shepard. You then, want to try and placate us with some extra prologe and cut scenes, that are ment to provide "closure", but unless it really gives, we the fans, the feeling that you really did "listen and respond" to this serious break with our trust (and I now refer to the public statement made by a representative of BW /EA that there would be many more endings to this story than there are) you WILL lose alot of fans like myself.


Be good to each other and Summer is coming...

In closing, I will reserve further judgment on your refusal to provide the endings we would all like to see until I have seen the new content provided by this DLC.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Eralrik wrote...

I'm currently on my 3rd play through of the game but I never finish the game by jumping into the light, I end my games before that final stupid insulting space magic ending. I leave myself an air of mystery to solve in my own mind.
The Extended Cut DLC won't change the current ending and I may try the free dlc but in the end if I still continue playing ME3 and I don't like the EC I'll just end my games where I leave em before the space magic begins.
Now Space Magic would be fully plausible if this was Dragon Age: Origins in space, but I currently can't ascribe to the Crucible being God who can change all life in the Galaxy faster than what was written in the bible.
If Bioware offered a DLC that wiped the old ending away and came out with a new ending pack at a later date in a year or so I would buy it.

It is ironic, isn't it?  The Maker doesn't even use his powers in Dragon Age, but the catalyst can cast a spell that transforms the galaxy.    Talk about bizarre.

[Shepard108278]

Eralrik wrote...



But it all boils down to the fact they ran out of room in the programing when they implemented Multiplayer an so shortend Single player and took liberty's with their own story line as if they haven't even played or wrote the other 2 Mass Effects, as well as programming Kinect into the game to make it that much grander.

I love Mass Effect 3 but I won't play the ending's, I see them as lets finish this quick and put God in the mix as a child and give em their choices A,B or C and call it good. <How ever you shovel crap it's still crap when it hits the ground.>

I don't agree. I don't see that they shortend single player or took libertites with thier stoyy it fits IMO.

I agree to disagree with you and you likewise with me.

Fair enough.

[-JP-]

New user on the forums, so first of all I’d like to say thank you to EA for creating what I firmly believe is the best overall game series the world has ever seen (I can live with having a lot of people calling me crazy for saying so).

I’m not here to complain, nag or throw a fit re: the ending of the game. It is well in your/EA’s artistic power to finish the game as seen fit (though it seems stressed and thrown together by someone who hasn't actually played the game). I will simply add my comments and thoughts about it, as have many others, in the hope that you’ll take them for what they are.

I’m not going to say that I feel in any way upset over the way the game ended, as I felt that the way up to the final decision was rewarding in itself. I do however feel slightly disappointed as it reached more of an anticlimax than a climax. Although I do not need to know every detail about the galaxy post Reaper destruction (as was my choice), a longer cut would have been nice. Given that the ending I chose does enable another game to come (as the final breath and “ok, one more story” line would suggest), there’s always the option for that theoretical fourth game to essentially contain a more thorough explanation to the third game’s ending (for the love of all that is holy, don't make it a MMO). Certain things are, however, nonsensical. Almost all of them have been covered at length, perhaps best summed up in GameFront’s Ross Lincoln article from March 13th, so it seems redundant for me to reiterate them here and now.

I do have another gripe though, one which relates to the way Liara was handled in the end (let’s keep the bad puns out of it, thankyouverymuch). Now, to me, the Liara love/companionship has been what has set ME apart from the rest of the pack, a unique emotional bond to the game series. The way love is handled in games always leaves a lot to be desired (again, no pun intended); the main protagonist is, as near as makes no difference, always a stereotypical hardbottom. However, the option to keep the romance as it were alive through three games (and Shadow Broker DLC etc) was very refreshing and I found myself, to my admitted surprise, to be more concerned about Liara’s wellbeing as we made the final push towards the Reaper than the fate of myself or, in fact, the galaxy. I think the final romance scene, before the attack, was a very nice touch and, given what I’ve come to learn about Asari reproduction over the games, a possibility for a child in the future. I just wish that there’d be a reunion/marriage/something in there. The overall feeling, as I saw her get out of the Normandy, was one of joy and relief that she survived (however she managed to get on the ship I did not care), but sadness and disappointment that it was all there was to the story. I have, as I’m sure many others, invested three games plus DLC, in other
words both a lot of time and money, in the relationship and for it to end the way it did, no reunion, nothing, was a bit.. ..meh. You had hoped for there to be more of a reward for the choices, both in-game and IRL, one has made.

I sincerely hope that an extended cut or DLC would give a more fitting, romantic ending to this storyline. It would provide a suitable conclusion to what has been, for me and I’m sure many others, the catalyst (in the non-ME sense) to the strongest emotional bond to a game series I have ever experienced. And, please, plug the holes in the main story too.

Thank you for reading my post and for your time and hard work.

Kind regards 

Modifié par -JP-, 26 mai 2012 - 10:05 .

[Mistrzu]

There is no hope. Why I am still lying to myself that they care enough to give us a better ending or at least fix it somehow ? Instead we get "clarification" and "additional context" for those of us who are too stupid to understand the ending. No matter what I write here it will be ignored anyway. Why I even bother ?

EDIT:
Ah I forgot to mention that. Stop lying that the ending is part of "team's artistic vision" I don't buy it.  The ending was written by one person not a whole team and that person is Casey Hudson. You f*cked up Casey.

Modifié par Mistrzu, 26 mai 2012 - 02:29 .

[Belhawk]

i agree that the ending is bad, and it does feel like different people did the ending from the rest of the game. And whoever did the ending did a horrible job. It is too bad that the shepard trilogy ending with a whimper instead of a bang. AND at least for me, it killed the ME universe as far as buying new games. I am not interested in prequels.

[M8DMAN]

Shepard108278 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

prothy.the.prothean wrote...

How about instead of working on an extended cut, BioWare, you work on the damn Black Hole glitch so some of us can actually get to the ending in the first place? Seriously, a 92 page thread deserves your attention, you know so maybe you could stop ignoring those who pay your bills.

You are VASTLY better off not being able to get to the end.  At least you with the glitch have a real ending...one you can fill in entirely in your own mind and doesn't include star retards, magic, illogic, contradiction up the yingyang, etc.  You are still pristine and pure, not sullied by the Big Stoopid.

The ending is not stupid IMO it was very good it just needs a few holes filled.

Gotta agree with Getorex on this one.

The ending is stupid and it needs a LOT of holes filled.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 26 mai 2012 - 05:06 .

[lythran9]

It does need a lot of holes filled....and i know everybody keeps going on about the indocranation theory hoping that the actual ending was all some kind of dream but realistically that just seems like an easy way out for bioware, they chose there ending and need to dig their way out properly by explaining in game, not just a cheap "oh, sorry you didn´t like it, lucky for you it wasnt reality"

and yes i know this hasnt been confirmed yet but at the moment its looking like the most likley thing thats going to happen

[M8DMAN]

Belhawk wrote...

i agree that the ending is bad, and it does feel like different people did the ending from the rest of the game. And whoever did the ending did a horrible job. It is too bad that the shepard trilogy ending with a whimper instead of a bang. AND at least for me, it killed the ME universe as far as buying new games. I am not interested in prequels.

Word on the street is that Casey Hudson and Mac Walters wrote the ending without any input from the writing staff.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 26 mai 2012 - 05:20 .

[Iron_Sheik]

RELEASE DATE ANYONE!?

[Grubas]

Dont care as long as it saves the franchise from oblivion they better take their damn time.

[Iron_Sheik]

Grubas wrote...

Dont care as long as it saves the franchise from oblivion they better take their damn time.

Good point.

[Shepard108278]

Mistrzu wrote...

There is no hope. Why I am still lying to myself that they care enough to give us a better ending or at least fix it somehow ? Instead we get "clarification" and "additional context" for those of us who are too stupid to understand the ending. No matter what I write here it will be ignored anyway. Why I even bother ?

EDIT:
Ah I forgot to mention that. Stop lying that the ending is part of "team's artistic vision" I don't buy it.  The ending was written by one person not a whole team and that person is Casey Hudson. You f*cked up Casey.

Source? Even if true I don't agree they just need to clarify it IMO and that's what they are doing so I know i'll be happy.

[TheDarkShape]

The source is online comments alleged to be from Patrick Weekes. Of course, Weekes has flat-out denied saying what's credited to him, but when has the truth ever stopped people from vitriolic hate?

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Belhawk wrote...

i agree that the ending is bad, and it does feel like different people did the ending from the rest of the game. And whoever did the ending did a horrible job. It is too bad that the shepard trilogy ending with a whimper instead of a bang. AND at least for me, it killed the ME universe as far as buying new games. I am not interested in prequels.

Agreed.  Why bother getting invested in a prequel's plot when you know it'll all be for nothing in the end?

[Iron_Sheik]

FOR NOW I go with the Indoc. theory...that's what keeps me sane. We'll see what EC brings. And if it's brutal or more BS I'll delete it from my HDD and go with Indoc. theory.

[SwoopIM]

The "...team's artistic vision about the ending"?? Are you serious Bioware? The ending sucked!! Just admit what we all know already. You blew it; fix it--we'll forgive you. If you're going to waste the time and effort on putting out this DLC, you should give your fan base (ie your customers) WHAT THEY WANT. (It's "good business." I learned that in Business 101; someone at Bioware should take that course sometime...soon).