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[ScrltFx]

OdanUrr wrote...

Altered Idol wrote...

10) Why does the grandfather tell the kid there's still one more Shepard story when Bioware have said there won't be any further post-ending DLC?

Explain to me how: story = post-ending DLC.

There are so many speculations about this ending that it's driving me nuts. My Shepard breathed at the end, and according to this ending, there is ONE MORE STORY. Not only that, but Casey Hudson said specifically "
 this was not the last you will hear of Shepard[/i], and that he will be back. "

We can only hope that this is true.

Modifié par ScrltFx, 05 avril 2012 - 04:56 .

[Azgoroth]

daigakuinsei wrote...

I think this is what most of us were looking for. Never expected BioWare to rewrite completely the ending. It just needed better execution and fleshing out.

I believe Mike Gamble when he says he wants to release something amazing and gratifying.

Also think you guys shouldn't rush making this. It's totally unreasonable for fans to whine about the ending feeling rushed but then demand you rush extra content and expect it to be polished. I'd take quality over speed here in a heartbeat.

You took the words right out of my mouth man!  Most of us are hopefully getting what we want, so we should allow Bioware to take their time to get it right. 

[Tietj]

Well, I would like to thank Bioware for this, actually. I wouldn't have minded new endings but this has the potential to be great.

I would like to express once again though my concern that not every ending is available to everyone. Those of us with bad internet connections, or who don't pay for XBOX gold (or Live or whatever it is XBOX players have to pay for) can't see the ending which requires 8000 TMS (with no multiplayer). Please, Bioware, fix this in the dlc! Thanks again.

[Canis_Major]

I can only pray that the extended ending DLC blows everyone expectations, solving major plotholes and making choices matter even if we have to keep dealing with the damned Starchild.

To me it's only possible if they leave the door open to a ME4 game (with a cliffhanger style), but it does not seem likely. If the endings are expected to remain as they are, and the DLC consists only of animations that pretend to bring "closure", i think we keep the Normandy fleeing for no apparent reason with your squadmates inside, among other major issues.

Summing it up, i dont think more video/animation will solve the major mistakes and plotholes under the current "artistic view" of the endings.

Hope Bioware suprises everybody, but i sadly have to think that they just to pretend kick the ball away, get rid off the pressure at PAX and try to make us forget.

[Templar537]

There better be a ton of 'clarifying' if they want the ending to be accepted in a positive manner. And by 'clarifying' I mean 'changing'.

[BubbleDncr]

I think all this extended cut is going to do is prove Indoctrination Theory is wrong.

Since they aren't changing the current ending, just extending it, we'll just get to see the beginnings of the resource war between everyone left in the Sol system, or maybe some races starting the loooooong trek home.
Maybe they'll explain how Joker rescued everyone and why he ran away, but since there's no reasonable explanation for that, I doubt it. There will probably just be extended scenes of your love interest being sad that you're gone, and all your companions starting their new civilization.

[StowyMcStowstow]

Man, this was such a good company. Now they're providing clarification we don't want for an abysmal ending that sucked. Just... no.I'm sorry Bioware, but your unwillingness to even slightly admit that anything is wrong with the endings is simply astounding. An actual artist would man up and respond, acknowledge his failings, learn form his mistakes, and move on, not cower behind the excuse of artistic integrity like some pretentious douchebag. Bethesda at least had the balls to retcon their ending, and it worked. It worked quite well. They didn't clarify anything. Why? Because the ending sucked. It was dumb, slapped together at the last minute, and it showed. But you? Not even close.

You listened to no one. Not one thread was read, not one post out of the thousands both on twitter and this network. Line broken? No. Faith lost? Yes.

I feel sorry for what the panel at PAX East will have to deal with.

[Rafficus III]

Does anyone else find it funny people were assuming Bioware was going to charge for this as "they sold out to evil EA"? I remember the running estimate was $15, if I'm not mistaken. Anyways, good on you Bioware, it was a class move and is respected. And yet, forum posters are still upset because they didn't receive a massive game changing ending to an ending that has not fully been clarified yet, making these judgments premature and somewhat displaced. Anyways, I'm glad Bioware stuck to their guns with their team and responded to their fanbase in a respectful manner to both it's writers as well as it's fans left asking questions. In the meantime stay classy, BSN posters.

[TheSeventhJedi]

DoctorEss wrote...
If you read what's written well in this message you will understand that "Mass Effect" as the franchise has not ended with this chapter. It was clear even before if instead of complaining about the ending you would have turned in motion your brain a little more, but now, with this declaration on this DLC they (Bioware) even wrote it plainly for everyone to understand it (or if you cannot then check your IQ, seriously).

Oh, I get that they fully intend to make future Mass Effect games.  Up until this ending, I couldn't've had better news.  However, this ending was SO AWFUL, that if it is not fixed, I won't care about future Mass Effect games, because I won't play them.  BioWare doesn't have to worry about killing ME3, they've already got their money, and quite a bit of it.  They have to worry about killing the whole freaking franchise.

[Oransel]

Bioware is a business. Business means there are 2 sides. One side gives money to other, which in turn provides service to first. If service is unsatisfactory, no money will be paid = service company will go bankrupt and hungry. Consumer is always right.

[xsvrrx]

Thanks I love you Bioware. Do not let the negatives get you guys down. just always do what you guys do best bring up top level entertainment and hot seaming romance options.

[RollsRules]

 If something is ****ty, change it, don't add more ****.

Sorry Bioware, adore the game, but the ending is broken, and adding more ending wont help.

You say you're listening to your fans when you clearly aren't.  

If you were a jellyfish, you'd be a big stupid jellyfish.

[TGiNcRySiS]

How can anyone be happy with this? This is almost as bad a tragedy as the sinking of the Titanic. You play this role that totally sucks you in and then it gets crapped all over. I mean there are people who think the ending is great. Are you insane?  Who gives a crap that it is free?  Bioware and EA are trash.

Modifié par TGiNcRySiS, 05 avril 2012 - 04:58 .

[rrtda]

this is what we were promised proof that you lied to us wtf bioware what happened why did u not deliver

[klxfx]

Here's the way I see it. There were two things wrong with the end. It was full of plotholes and the ending choices sucked. Not liking the ending is merely a difference of opinion. I don't think they should get changed. The plotholes, on the other hand, should get fixed. A crappy ending is one thing, a crappy ending that makes no sense is another. This DLC sounds like the right thing to me.

For the record I'd like to point out I detested the ending(s).

[Niraven]

curvz wrote...
You cannot pretend to know what "true" artists would do, nor should you shoot down Bioware so hard for the ending. Why? Because they did 95% good, they created 3 grand games that no fan will forget - and artistic integrity still means you stick to your own values and ideals, instead of changing it because a majority or fans, a publisher or whatever authority wants you to do so. And remember, art has never been art because it was perfect, nor because everyone (or anyone, for that matter) liked it. Nor have "true" artists ever been out to please everyone.

- Fatal Attraction. In the original ending, Glenn Close commits suicide and sets it up to make it look like Michael Douglas murdered her. Audiences hated it. They changed the ending.

- Clerks. Dante was shot in the original ending. People hated it. Kevin Smith, being made of win and awesome, changed it.

- Dodgeball. Evil team won. People hated it. Ending was changed.

- Little Shop of Horrors. Lead characters were eaten. People hated it. Ending was changed.

- The Break Up. Angry ragey women didn't want to see Jennifer Aniston lose her man, even on-screen. Ending was changed.

- Great Expectations by Charles Dickens. People thought ending was too sad. Ending was changed.

etc, etc, etc.

edit: Yes, the rest of the game was damn good. I wholeheartedly acknowledge that. I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

Modifié par Niraven, 05 avril 2012 - 04:59 .

[Shepards Pie]

I hope PS3's technical difficulties don't exclude me from this DLC.

[bowery tuff]

I'll admit that clarification of an ending I thought was awful has me tugging at my collar in a hilarious Rodney Dangerfield-esque fashion. However, I'm willing to see what they do before lighting a pitchfork on fire and storming the castle. Wait, isn't that supposed to be lighting a torch and grabbing a pitchfork?
Anyway, summer isn't far off. If this free extension does nothing to salvage the universe for me then I'll just have to accept that what I think made the Mass Effect universe great is far different from Bioware's vision, tip my hat and say adieu. (Now I have to buy a hat ...)
I'm not calling a boycott of Bioware or anything like that. I'll just react the same way I do with a movie series or book series that I feel drops the ball. I'll just stop following it. Will it change my perspective on future Bioware releases? Absolutely. Just as someone who hated the Star Wars prequels and the fouth Indiana Jones movie may be wary of future Lucasfilm productions. As it is right now, Mass Effect, to me, was a great series that couldn't figure things out in the end. I really hope that is different come summer. If I still think the ending was awful after the clarification and epilogue, then that's just the way it is and Mass Effect did not end up being what I hoped it would be.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Anderson to Bioware: "You did bad son.. You did bad.. I'm.. Not proud of you..."

I mean was it really so hard to use their current assets to create a new ending? Nope. It's just arrogance. The same arrogance the da2 exhibited when da2 was doing poorly.

-Polite

[cynicalmicahel]

Hmmm... maybe a fan boycott would get their attention?

[ratzerman]

I'm a little annoyed at their use of "some fans." It feels like they're trying to maginalize us, even though every poll on every website shows a clear majority of fans unhappy with the ending.

[Hashishim]

will it explain the dream sequences? Lol the point of it:/ Some people dont get nightmares because of guilt:/ They feel it inside lol

[flatscan]

The phrase "polishing a turd" springs to mind.