Modifié par RayVelocity, 05 avril 2012 - 05:53 .
Steel Dancer wrote...
Persephone wrote...
I'll ask THIS again:
Aren't ending VARIATIONS still possible? Based on decisions and EWS?
Say certain cutscenes etc. only fire if you did X, thus affecting the epilogue you'll get?
That means that whatever was already there remains intact, clarifications are added and ending variables are included.
Everybody wins?
This'd make sense, live up to the hype, promises and advertising that was put out by the game leads, would please most of the Retake movement and would be totally non-artistic, so won't happen.
Justin2k wrote...
venom56321489 wrote...
I believe Bioware made an effort but it isnt good enough and if I was Bioware I would hold off on future products, dont believe they will have the support or customers they had prior to March 6th.
I saw this quote before... well not this quote, some quotes very similar.
It was back when Dragon Age 2 came out. And those people that made the quote now have the Mass Effect 3 logo in their profile. And are complaining now most likely.
Thats the thing with a lot of these vocal "fans". You will shout all day, but you really aren't going to take your custom elsewhere. If you were, you would have done it by now. Bioware make games that are better than what other people make. If you take the ending of ME3 away most people complaining would call it game of the year.
If you people really want to make a stance, you should just go. Leave BSN, stop buying Bioware products, do not download Bioware DLC even if it's free and just go. But you aren't prepared to do that. And buy you i mean the whole retake group, not the person i'm quoting.
Modifié par Homepat, 05 avril 2012 - 05:50 .
Derek Larke wrote...
Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story.
Mylia Stenetch wrote...
LinksOcarina wrote...
Mylia Stenetch wrote...
LinksOcarina wrote...
No, but it also doesn't mean you should instantly **** down it's neck either.
that is what I take issue with.
Yeah this should not be done. What they did was a kind jesture, we should wait and see what this will bring. Also now you are letting the gaming journalists your advocated were lieing about you the fuel to prove otherwise. You are painting a damning picture of the "movement" and pushing the stigma of gamers.
This is also after I read the blog from Forbes, which has been herald by being true the entire time. Now that his opinion is different from your you do the exact same thing, that shows that you are falling into the entitlement range.
I am confused by what you are trying to say...
For one, I contribute to a website as a writer, so technically I am a "gaming journalist" in the loose sense of the word. You are right, I am painting a damning picture of the movement right now. But for the past month I have been open to what they are intneding to do.
the problem I see, however, is that they keep knee-jerking over things like this and it doesn't look good. So it is less of perpetuating a myth, and more of pointing out the fallacy of this opinion.
So if I am falling into that trap, I am not intending to that is for sure. But at the same time, I am just losing my patience with this whole ordeal because, despite myself staying as neutral as possible, this is starting to get ridiculous.
I am not trying to call you out, since I did not know you were a gaming journalist. I was using the basic brush of IGN, Gamespot, Kotatu, etc. I am sorry for the confusion on this.
I am also in the same boat for this now, trying to see both sides of the coin, while I may not be the best cause I can be opinionated in RL. To me I do not think you are falling into a trap, emotions wrile us up and we can respond not in the best of manner.
OdanUrr wrote...
Altered Idol wrote...
As I say, that would be stupid as it would be pointless. Think about it, what would be the point. The galaxy can only end up in ruins so it wouldn't have any significance. If it was an important part of the story, it would have been told already. If it wasnt all that important, it wouldn't matter as the outcome of the series is always cast in red,blue or green stone and thus it isn't really worth telling.
I never said it was smart. Now let me ask you, forget whether the endings are good or bad, what's the point of having any DLC if this is the last game of Shepard's story?
Serpicos wrote...
I am cautiously optimistic.
frozenwing123 wrote...
at first i was throwing a temper tantrum about how the ending sucked but after i watched the ending a couple more times they are kind of growing on me. when i sat down and really thought about it i kind of get the ending just dont ask me to explain it. it more of a gut feeling. it just like pirates of carribbean 3 thought it sucked but the mroe i watched the more i liked it. still going to pick red so my sheps can live XP. still think the cataylze is an ass. all that power and that all it can do XP. at this point for me and epilogue would be appreciated but unnecessary. been having a lot of fun making up my own stories for what happened after (but in my version mass relays still around :3).
Lastly i like to thank bioware for making such an awesome game, for listening to the opinion of the fans, and will be eagerly awaiting this summer's dlc
Persephone wrote...
tobiasks wrote...
I don't understand why they won't give the option for other endings though, considering it would remove a lot of the hate towards bioware/ea. I mean I just can't see a reason for not doing it? I suppose "artistic integrity" is their reason, but come on.
I COULD be clutching at straws here...
But they only said that the endings we have won't be CHANGED.
This still leaves the option for additional ending variables, no? As in...not entirely new endings but differing cutscenes, epilogues etc.?
Justin2k wrote...
venom56321489 wrote...
I believe Bioware made an effort but it isnt good enough and if I was Bioware I would hold off on future products, dont believe they will have the support or customers they had prior to March 6th.
I saw this quote before... well not this quote, some quotes very similar.
It was back when Dragon Age 2 came out. And those people that made the quote now have the Mass Effect 3 logo in their profile. And are complaining now most likely.
Thats the thing with a lot of these vocal "fans". You will shout all day, but you really aren't going to take your custom elsewhere. If you were, you would have done it by now. Bioware make games that are better than what other people make. If you take the ending of ME3 away most people complaining would call it game of the year.
If you people really want to make a stance, you should just go. Leave BSN, stop buying Bioware products, do not download Bioware DLC even if it's free and just go. But you aren't prepared to do that. And buy you i mean the whole retake group, not the person i'm quoting.
Oransel wrote...
frozenwing123 wrote...
at first i was throwing a temper tantrum about how the ending sucked but after i watched the ending a couple more times they are kind of growing on me. when i sat down and really thought about it i kind of get the ending just dont ask me to explain it. it more of a gut feeling. it just like pirates of carribbean 3 thought it sucked but the mroe i watched the more i liked it. still going to pick red so my sheps can live XP. still think the cataylze is an ass. all that power and that all it can do XP. at this point for me and epilogue would be appreciated but unnecessary. been having a lot of fun making up my own stories for what happened after (but in my version mass relays still around :3).
Lastly i like to thank bioware for making such an awesome game, for listening to the opinion of the fans, and will be eagerly awaiting this summer's dlc
You are indoctrinated.
vI Demon Iv wrote...
Amioran wrote...
SirPetrakus wrote...
Buddy, you got me wrong! I'm 100% right there, with you. People who complain about plot holes are too dumb to understand they are FEATURES! I mean, how dense can you get? People wanting consistensy and good writing. Pffft!
As I thought.
You demonstrated my point perfectly, given your unability to comprehend neither minimally what I said. I'm not perplexed at al about the rest given this.
I said that just because this "ending" is not an ending at all, giving what you call "plot-holes" is a good thing. And since I understand perfectly that you cannot grasp why I will give you an hint: momentum. If you end a story fully and you want to start another with the same background then you have to start from beginning and the momentum of before will be lost.
Think about it, I'm sure you can grasp it if you want.
Translation: If you want to sell DLC for the next year or two for the game, you cannot give it a proper ending, otherwise how would you sell DLC and make more money?
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Modifié par aerchethis, 05 avril 2012 - 06:10 .
Amioran wrote...
As I thought.
You demonstrated my point perfectly, given your unability to comprehend neither minimally what I said. I'm not perplexed at al about the rest given this.
Amioran wrote...
I said that just because this "ending" is not an ending at all, giving what you call "plot-holes" is a good thing. And since I understand perfectly that you cannot grasp why I will give you an hint: momentum. If you end a story fully and you want to start another with the same background then you have to start from beginning and the momentum of before will be lost.
Think about it, I'm sure you can grasp it if you want.
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