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[rizuno]

ratzerman wrote...

Sure, Shepard can see Liara again. She just has to live with the guilt of killing EDI and the Geth. No big deal.

OMG right?  I never understood why, why, why, the destruction beam kills ALL synthetics, bc technically, the Reapers aren't even true synthetics, they are a nasty fusion of organics and sythetics.  Processed pre-Shepard Cycle alien juice runs through their veins!!!

[ParagonX30]

I want the Geth/Quarians/Edi to live while kicking the reapers out of our galaxy without fusing organics/synthetics (how does that even work man????) Can you do that BioWare? Please?

[SpectreDracon]

Persephone wrote...

SpectreDracon wrote...

Persephone wrote...

heart486 wrote...

 This is pathetic. How many times do we have to say it?! We don't just want closure, we want an ending that doesn't ask us to pick a color.

So you hated ME2 as well, I take it? Never mind that ME3's endings aren't about picking a color.

you don't get it do you? The ending(s) screw everything about the series up. I respect your opinion, but we want something they promised, CHOICE. Player INVOLVEMENT. Not just walking into, a console with two batteries, a beam, and taking the gun and shooting a container.

Who's "we"?

We is everyone who wants the ending changed. It doesn't matter if an indvidual want's closure, reuniting with their LI, refusing the star child. WE are part of the same thing. Take back Mass Effect.

End of story.

[Super.Sid]

Ryzaki wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

You should not believe anything Jessica says its just PR.

Jessica is one of the few people who is NOT using PR speak, for God's sake!

Nope she instead thought the Normandy and Joker had landed on Earth.

Not taking anything she says seriously.

What other choice do we honestly have ? Hope ? Dope ? Rope ?

Do you think they will lie again in writing ? Its just suicide.

Modifié par Super.Sid, 05 avril 2012 - 07:25 .

[GideonTheReaperr]

So is the extended cut only gonna add the extra cinematics at the ending? was kinda hoping they would add more to the entire game, preferably one that explains why udina is the councelor when I picked anderson.

[Super.Sid]

GideonTheReaperr wrote...

So is the extended cut only gonna add the extra cinematics at the ending? was kinda hoping they would add more to the entire game, preferably one that explains why udina is the councelor when I picked anderson.

It is there in the codex

[K_Tabris]

Woohoo, maybe we find Synthetic Shepard wandering out of the beam. Now THAT would be awesome....

My stance is wavering.

[Indigo the Cat]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

"We believe in our team's artistic integrity"

There's that word again. I don't think it means what you think it means.

People are too used to dime-a-dozen books, movies, and musical pop artists who think that because they signed on to three record labels and are a house-hold name that their "art" contains no flaws.

Believing in "artistic integrity"... it just means that Casey Hudson and BioWare believe that they made no mistakes, and that the ending is perfect the way it is.  It also means that they believe they were completely honest and provided exactly what they said they would.

As far as the original endings are concerned, they did not deliver what they were claimed to bring.  You did not take Earth back, there weren't "different" endings, as they all look almost exactly the same, and there were several major plot holes.  Also, I think most of us agree that the endings are FAR from perfect.

[SpectreDracon]

BrotherWarth wrote...

rizuno wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sure, Shepard can see Liara again. She just has to live with the guilt of killing EDI and the Geth. No big deal.

OMG right?  I never understood why, why, why, the destruction beam kills ALL synthetics, bc technically, the Reapers aren't even true synthetics, they are a nasty fusion of organics and sythetics.  Processed pre-Shepard Cycle alien juice runs through their veins!!!

But even that doesn't make sense. How were the first Reapers made? They couldn't have been organic and synthetic unless the StarChild reaped the galaxy himself. But that begs the question why would the StarChild need the Reapers if he can reap the galaxy himself?

Agreed. The whole catalyst explanation just doesn't make sense.

[PiEman]

Persephone wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

Some news , interpret as you like

Jessica Merizan is my HEROINE now. Maker bless her!!

"Red option if you have high EMS rating"

Great, so all I have to do to live is kill the Geth, EDI, and disregard all my former decisions.

[Dragoonlordz]

SpectreDracon wrote...

Persephone wrote...

SpectreDracon wrote...

Persephone wrote...

heart486 wrote...

 This is pathetic. How many times do we have to say it?! We don't just want closure, we want an ending that doesn't ask us to pick a color.

So you hated ME2 as well, I take it? Never mind that ME3's endings aren't about picking a color.

you don't get it do you? The ending(s) screw everything about the series up. I respect your opinion, but we want something they promised, CHOICE. Player INVOLVEMENT. Not just walking into, a console with two batteries, a beam, and taking the gun and shooting a container.

Who's "we"?

We is everyone who wants the ending changed. It doesn't matter if an indvidual want's closure, reuniting with their LI, refusing the star child. WE are part of the same thing. Take back Mass Effect.

End of story.

You cannot take back what was never yours to begin with. Their IP, their franchise, their creation. You just chose to buy it.

[PiEman]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

SpectreDracon wrote...

Persephone wrote...

SpectreDracon wrote...

Persephone wrote...

heart486 wrote...

 This is pathetic. How many times do we have to say it?! We don't just want closure, we want an ending that doesn't ask us to pick a color.

So you hated ME2 as well, I take it? Never mind that ME3's endings aren't about picking a color.

you don't get it do you? The ending(s) screw everything about the series up. I respect your opinion, but we want something they promised, CHOICE. Player INVOLVEMENT. Not just walking into, a console with two batteries, a beam, and taking the gun and shooting a container.

Who's "we"?

We is everyone who wants the ending changed. It doesn't matter if an indvidual want's closure, reuniting with their LI, refusing the star child. WE are part of the same thing. Take back Mass Effect.

End of story.

You cannot take back what was never yours to begin with. Their IP, their franchise, their creation. You just chose to buy it.

We chose to buy it based on false information and blatant lies.

[kittysox]

The entire direction they took with the whole synthetic vs. organic is just so iinconceivably stupid, I can't believe they allowed mass effect to boil down to that. You can get better sci-fi in the bargin bin at books a million.

[Sageheart]

I'm overall disappointed with this announcement. It's time to stop using "artistic integrity" as an excuse to shield the creative teams from the fact that they made an incredibly sub-par ending that, lack of closure aside, is badly written and completely out of sync with the entire rest of the series. With Bioware leaving the ending unchanged they will need miraculously good storytelling to end up with even a moderately tolerable conclusion.

An artist's "vision" is not absolute and unquestionable. Look at any book or movie and I guarantee that in the vast majority of cases the author's "artistic vision" was changed to meet the demands of editors, production companies, fans, etc. To assume that just because an "artist" created something that it is inviolable and above all criticism is foolish in the extreme.

Heck, if "artistic integrity' is so important than let's be sure not to change a single word of the utterly abysmal William C Dietz Mass Effect novel that came out just prior to the game. Nevermind that he completely butchers the presentation and characterization of not just single characters but entire species of the Mass Effect universe; that was his artistic vision and it should be sacrosanct, right?

Oh, and don't fix any bugs! That face import problem. Shepard getting stuck on the bridge at times when talking to EDI. Leave 'em! Those are the artistic vision of the programmers and they too must have their artistic integrity defended regardless of quality!

But no, everyone agrees that those are bad and need to be fixed AND THEY SHOULD BE! The game's ending is not somehow exempt from quality control and the need to be fixed.

[Kirika69]

So the ending isn't actually going to change? How pointless this DLC is. You can't add quality when the foundation is garbage.

[SpectreDracon]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

SpectreDracon wrote...

Persephone wrote...

SpectreDracon wrote...

Persephone wrote...

heart486 wrote...

 This is pathetic. How many times do we have to say it?! We don't just want closure, we want an ending that doesn't ask us to pick a color.

So you hated ME2 as well, I take it? Never mind that ME3's endings aren't about picking a color.

you don't get it do you? The ending(s) screw everything about the series up. I respect your opinion, but we want something they promised, CHOICE. Player INVOLVEMENT. Not just walking into, a console with two batteries, a beam, and taking the gun and shooting a container.

Who's "we"?

We is everyone who wants the ending changed. It doesn't matter if an indvidual want's closure, reuniting with their LI, refusing the star child. WE are part of the same thing. Take back Mass Effect.

End of story.

You cannot take back what was never yours to begin with. Their IP, their franchise, their creation. You just chose to buy it.

Because of the fans, Bioware was able to get all the feedback, and able to continue the franchise. Are fans not entitled to have a vote? We want Bioware. Not EA Bioware. So to restate my sentance, Give us what's right. Give us what they did with KotOR, Baldur's Gate, ME1. Give us a good ending.

[hellsingmaycry]

You know what? This is more than we had before. I'm not gonna start moaning about it until I see it for myself. Then I'll know if I actually have something to moan about.

[K_Tabris]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...
You cannot take back what was never yours to begin with. Their IP, their franchise, their creation. You just chose to buy it.

Do I need to link you to the numerous quotes from Casey and others saying that the fans are the co-creators of the game?

How about I show you all the links where Casey's words aren't exactly accurate?

I'm sorry, but it IS there IP, and as much as they listen to our imput, at the end of the day, Casey and Mac et. al. make the decisions.

[rizuno]

BrotherWarth wrote...

rizuno wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sure, Shepard can see Liara again. She just has to live with the guilt of killing EDI and the Geth. No big deal.

OMG right?  I never understood why, why, why, the destruction beam kills ALL synthetics, bc technically, the Reapers aren't even true synthetics, they are a nasty fusion of organics and sythetics.  Processed pre-Shepard Cycle alien juice runs through their veins!!!

But even that doesn't make sense. How were the first Reapers made? They couldn't have been organic and synthetic unless the StarChild reaped the galaxy himself. But that begs the question why would the StarChild need the Reapers if he can reap the galaxy himself?

Curse the ending, CURSE IT, this is where it leaves us.  

[ratzerman]

rizuno wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sure, Shepard can see Liara again. She just has to live with the guilt of killing EDI and the Geth. No big deal.

OMG right?  I never understood why, why, why, the destruction beam kills ALL synthetics, bc technically, the Reapers aren't even true synthetics, they are a nasty fusion of organics and sythetics.  Processed pre-Shepard Cycle alien juice runs through their veins!!!

Doesn't make any sense, does it?

Honestly, I think Bioware got sick of listening to renegade players complain about getting no rewards, so then gave them the happy ending.

Paragons are stuck with self sacrifice.

[Jarl Johnnie Walker]

Yeah, bioware just lost A LOT of fans. Out of all the happily ever after endings that has happened in my life THIS is one of the things I actually WANT happily ever after. ****ING MUTANT BABIES WITH GARRUS! So me convincing the geth and quarians to fight with each other was a total waste of time. Bull****.

[SpectreDracon]

Garrus calibrations wrote...

Yeah, bioware just lost A LOT of fans. Out of all the happily ever after endings that has happened in my life THIS is one of the things I actually WANT happily ever after. ****ING MUTANT BABIES WITH GARRUS! So me convincing the geth and quarians to fight with each other was a total waste of time. Bull****.

^
This guy. Speaks truth.