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[SpectreDracon]

Heselrige wrote...

Hopefully the ending addresses:

-How the destruction of the Mass Relays decimates (or doesn't decimate) each solar system they're housed in.
 
-Why Joker left the battle for earth.

-What happens to the aliens and humans floating around earth's atmosphere when the mass relays break and they're forced to live together in the same solar system--assuming they aren't whiped out by Mass Relay explosions.

-How the Krogans manage when Wrex is no longer leading them, since he' s stuck on earth/dead.

-How the Turians handle the loss of their Primarch.

-What the hell the reapers do when they run away during the "good" and "neutral" endings

-How the synthesis ending could actually work (Which it could--but not the way it was explained or carried out or really even conceived. Essentially the synthesis argument is just a big blast of indoctrinating energy, that'd seed a "virus" into the brainmeats of the galactic races (including the non-space faring races, so the Yahg as well) so they'd believe that being cyborgs is a good idea, which would basically force them into doing for the reapers what the reapers were trying to do to them all along--drag them into a robot collective--albeit over a greater course of time and allowing for greater autonomy) without relying on space magic and glowing green Joker.

-What happens now that everything and everyone on the Citadel is dead, and there is no interstellar government body.

-What they were hoping to do with the shift in the narrative "lens"--I *think* I know what the writers were getting at, and I *think* I can see where they were trying to go, and if its what I think, its actually a pretty good way to distance that story universe from the Shepard story and open up opportunities for an MMORPG without worrying about the plot holes and paradoxes and conflicts that come up with everyone having their own shephard running around the universe in their minds' eye. If I could talk with the writers (and I'd love that opportunity, if, ya know, the writers decided they wanted to talk to a fan that liked the spirit of their idea, but actually talk to me as one writer to another (I've even got literary street cred, available upon request). I'd love to discuss what they could have done to keep the same spirit for their ending, while providing the clarity and closure necessary to actually end this story--without ending the universe. Unless they want to end it, in which case, I wish they would have come out and said that in the beginning, because I'm geared up to experience more of this interpretation of our galaxy.

I have other ideas and questions that I hope are clarified, but I'd be happy if those points were covered. I don't even care if Shepard lives or dies, I just want to see the political/cultural/societal backlash of the situation, and whether or not the galaxy keeps doing its thing or if by destroying the reapers we're seeing a literal end to the Mass Effect galaxy, and the franchise will terminate with this story.

said this so many times, but ^this. Again.

[Heather Cline]

I hate the endings BioWare. This is not what the majority of the retake movement wanted. We wanted what you promised. Multiple varying endings that were affected by our choices throughout ME1-2 and 3 to the finale. Instead you give us this 'artistic vision' and 'artistic integrity' bull. Fact is you lost all right to artistic whatever when you put out this game in it's current form. There are so many bugs, issues and so on the game is horrible in it's current state.

You made promises you didn't keep. I've been pretty civil up until this point but frankly what you've done is assassinated Shepard and her/his character over all and invalidated the first 2 games along with everything you did in the 3rd game up until the AI child. You've sold out and you don't give a damned about us as you claim. You DID NOT listen to us, you just claimed you did. You will lose a lot of customers and fans over this. I hope you are proud of yourselves because you've lost me and I will be telling everyone about how you don't care about those you claim to listen to.

Yeah I'm going to spread bad PR about you until the the cows come home to coin a phrase. I think that and the other disgruntled fans will continue to do so will make sure your name is tarnished for good.

You could have made a DLC pack with the extended ending for those who wanted closure and included the other options as well. Instead we get this PR move and frankly I hate your company. Have fun. I'm done with you.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 05 avril 2012 - 07:59 .

[Alex_SM]

Ravenmyste wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

It's hard to fix one of the worst pieces of fiction written in the last years by extending it.

no its not actually  the story is great i can see some understanding that the ending is not the best ending with a abc ad color ending and there are some plot holes at the end but other then that  the story is good, just sorry that you dont understand it, maybe when that dlc comes out you will understand

The ending has SO MANY problems... from being anticlimatic, not taking any choice into accout, having a totally rotten logic and even rotten ethics (synthesis... sigh), not making any sense, being a Deus Ex Machina, etc... 

It's really hard to fix it by just extending it. Needs too many changes to work (the first one: remove the freaking starchild). 

[Dean_the_Young]

Man, the fracturing of the Line is everything I expected it to be.

The next few weeks should be hilarious.

[AtreiyaN7]

rizuno wrote...

"An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the “Extended Cut” will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it’s at no cost to you – the fan."

That sounds pretty damn condescending to me.  

No, it doesn't unless you're primed to take offense at every single thing they say. A lot of people asked for closure and clarification, and a lot of people have been wondering if the DLC were going to be free or not. Sorry if you don't like them not being suitably apologetic, meek, subservient, humble or whatever else it was you were looking for.

I'm getting the impression that some people will only be satisfied if BioWare were bowing and scraping before them, begging for forgiveness for the sin of not doing exactly what they demand.

[addiction21]

rizuno wrote...

The bolded part, THE BOLDED PART.  
 "Oh, and it's at no cost to you - the fan."

Yes lets **** and moan about free things.

Of course if it was not free people would be screaming how greedy and evil BioWare is.

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

I'm getting the impression that some people will only be satisfied if BioWare were bowing and scraping before them, begging for forgiveness for the sin of not doing exactly what they demand.

Even then some "fans"  would demand seppuku.

Modifié par addiction21, 05 avril 2012 - 08:03 .

[AdamGreene13]

Pattonesque wrote...

I really liked how the Rachni were integrated into the final battle. All those soldiers swarming over the Reapers really gave me a sense that my decisions mattered, you know? I mean, you guys said a while ago that they'd play a big role in the final battle, and man, you totally delivered. The new DLC isn't going to, say, remove that and reduce the Rachni decision to a simple hundred points of war assets, is it?

God I hope not. That would be like turning loyal team members from ME2 nto a valueless numbers that made no difference at all at the game's end. They would never do that. 

[Mhg122287]

Christ and you people wonder why this place is considered  full of  a bunch of whiney little mouth breathing 12 year olds.

Keep proving the critics right BSN.

There is no rationaldiscourse on this site,

[ReshyShira]

So they're keeping the horrible ending and trying their damnedest to justify why it was horrible. In the mean time they pretty much admit that they were holding content back to resell to us later.


Wonderful Bioware, you've clearly shown all of us your level of integrity.

[kbct]

As someone else said, free garbage is still garbage.

Even this thread demonstrates that a majority want the ending fixed, not clarified.

You're not listening, BioWare.

[rizuno]

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Kindliche wrote...

sean10mm wrote...

Derek Larke wrote...

So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.

Serious question for Bioware folks: are any of you capable of addressing your customers without being insultingly patronizing? 

They aren't it seems. Every comment has been has been very condesending. 

Not really - you're reading that into their words because you want it to be so. Anything they say that doesn't include caving in to your collective demands and fawning over you all seems to qualify as condescending and patronizing by default. *rolleyes*

"An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the “Extended Cut” will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it’s at no cost to you – the fan."

That sounds pretty damn condescending to me.  

Why? many said that it didnt make sense.

The bolded part, THE BOLDED PART.  
 "Oh, and it's at no cost to you - the fan."

it is condescending cause they dare give you something for fee?????No one is stopping you from sending them money if you want.

It's the wording, I find it condescending.  'oh you cried about it shweetie, here u go'.  I am more than happy to shell out for an ending which doesn't suck, nor am I alone.  

[PaxtonFetel]

Heather Cline wrote...
Yeah I'm going to spread bad PR about you until the the cows come home
to coin a phrase. I think that and the other disgruntled fans will
continue to do so will make sure your name is tarnished for good.
.

Yes, I'm doing it too has written a negative review about the game in the online store where you would normally buy dvds.

[SpectreDracon]

AdamGreene13 wrote...

Pattonesque wrote...

I really liked how the Rachni were integrated into the final battle. All those soldiers swarming over the Reapers really gave me a sense that my decisions mattered, you know? I mean, you guys said a while ago that they'd play a big role in the final battle, and man, you totally delivered. The new DLC isn't going to, say, remove that and reduce the Rachni decision to a simple hundred points of war assets, is it?

God I hope not. That would be like turning loyal team members from ME2 nto a valueless numbers that made no difference at all at the game's end. They would never do that. 

Or how about having a loyal squadmate who you chose over her mother become a mindless husk and having to kill her?

No! Never, they wouldn't even think of that!

[Darth Kraken]

Thank you Bioware!

[rizuno]

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

AdamGreene13 wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

"We believe in our team's artistic integrity"

There's that word again. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Ha! 

Cause you are the expert on what others think are artistic huh????????

I remember you.  


Because, of course, you are the Artistic Expert sent to us from Above.
/sarcasm

Nope Art is subjective to who is experiencing it.

You just invalidated your own previous point.  I'm not, you're not, nobody is.  It's all personal opinion, like the quotes you attacked above.  

Modifié par rizuno, 05 avril 2012 - 08:05 .

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

It's nice that it's free but I think I'd have rather paid money and been offered an extra 2 hard to get paragon / renegade endings thrown in.

Hopefully they handle this clarity thing well. And don't make a worse mess of it. I've decided that whether I spend money on future DLC for the game will depend on how the ending is after the changes. So far I'm certainly not compelled to replay it.

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 05 avril 2012 - 08:06 .

[Zerohero17]

That's it I am officially done with EA, first BF3, now BW with Mass Effect's "team's artistic vision"; really? When we all know the truth? You lied to us all, rushed the ending to us which is a blatant poor job of writing and you still bring this sorry excuse of "artistic vision", it's not artistic, when it's a rush job done to get it out of the way, when it's lousy, you should tell EA bug off. No more, I will not stand for this, I am done with Bioware, I will download the Extended Cut DLC, but that's it. No more EA, BW,DICE, none. I am tired of having good franchises and company's being ruined by EA and greed; sorry Bioware but after this fiasco we are done(yes I am very angry, yes I am venting because they still stick to that JOKE of an excuse of "artistic vision").  Vent mode off... more calm now... carry on.(I will however not purchase anything more from said people).

Modifié par Zerohero17, 05 avril 2012 - 08:07 .

[kbct]

AwesomeName wrote...

kbct wrote...

As someone else said, free garbage is still garbage.

Even this thread demonstrates that a majority want the ending fixed, not clarified.

You're not listening, BioWare.

Erm, what's the difference?

The god-child and colors are in the clarified version.

[Travie]

Its more than I expected, but far FAR less than I'd hoped.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

So my Shepard still have to agree and act by the kid logic in the end?
Still crap!

[rizuno]

AwesomeName wrote...

kbct wrote...

As someone else said, free garbage is still garbage.

Even this thread demonstrates that a majority want the ending fixed, not clarified.

You're not listening, BioWare.

Erm, what's the difference?

Clarifiying implies that the base product is fine, just needs fine tuning.

Fixing implies that the base product is broken and needs to be, well, fixed.