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[Zerohero17]

kbct wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

kbct wrote...

As someone else said, free garbage is still garbage.

Even this thread demonstrates that a majority want the ending fixed, not clarified.

You're not listening, BioWare.

Erm, what's the difference?

The god-child and colors are in the clarified version.

Thank you for hiting the nail in the head,  "artistic vision".... what a joke. 

[Thanatos144]

PaxtonFetel wrote...

The next part of the game will be called magic rays 4

Send each other the rays of good.

Cause it isn't magic to have huge floating objects that teleport you
thousands or light years in seconds.......Or that there are people with a
chip in their head can lift things with their mind......Or that there is a race of blue women who breed out of their own genome to produce
more blue women. Or that Shepard suffocates in space and falls into atmosphere catching on fire yet is brought back to life by a terrorist organization is not magic???????

[Moriloke]

Maybe this DLC will show me what I wanted to see after I finished the game for the first time.

First time I've seen the end scene, I was not that disappointed, except for the part that we did not see what really happened through my choices, and that many pieces made no sense.
I Redid the game, to see that, 3 ending choices, 1 ending.
The DLC will maybe let me enjoy the first time I finished ME3.
I was planning on doing multiple Shepards, from ME1 to ME3 in order to enjoy many possibilities.
But now that I know that in the end, one's choice doesn't really matter... I lost what I liked in the ME franchise : the possibility of many stories within a solo game. The motive to redo the game, because each shepard would have a different life, a different death.

I still remember before ME3 was released, when Casey said something like " you won't be able to compare with other players saying that you got the ending A, B or C , everyone's ending will be sort of unique." ...
Huh.

So, this DLC may fill the part where the ending didn't make sense to me.
It won't undo the fact that there's only one ending for many shepards, so that I won't spend hundreds of hours and make multiple shepard's like I did in ME1 & 2 for ME3.

ME3 is really the end of ME. End of the story, the hero (that I was expecting), but also the end of the fun playing it.

Modifié par Moriloke, 05 avril 2012 - 08:12 .

[Michel1986]

kbct wrote...

As someone else said, free garbage is still garbage.

Even this thread demonstrates that a majority want the ending fixed, not clarified.

You're not listening, BioWare.

Bioware = Dead, it's EA now

[ratzerman]

Static Veins wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Sure, Shepard can see Liara again. She just has to live with the guilt of killing EDI and the Geth. No big deal.

That strikes me as the point. With this inclusion of an epilogue (going off of the tweets posted earlier) where Shepard meets his crew again and be 'happy', BioWare have changed the dynamic of the ending to what Mass Effect is all about - Paragon vs. Renegade.

Now it's about a choice of either sacrificing yourself and never seeing your friends again and saving everyone you can (blue & green) or keeping yourself alive at the cost of the lives of all synthetic life, most of which you have just made sentient, providing you made that choice (red).

Don't know about anyone else, but that spin on it has improved the ending 10-fold for me, especially if we now will get to see the outcome of those choices. It's the most basic paragon/renegade choice - save yourself or save others. I'll be interested to see how many people who whined that they couldn't have a happy ending will go renegade so their Shepard can be happy. Now it makes even more sense why the colours were swapped in the ending, with the Illusive Man's control idea being blue and the destroy option red. God damn.

It also leaves Shepard in the position of believing the ghost child. So not only do paragons have to throw away their only chance at happiness, they have believe and obey the instructions of something that any sane person would write off as a hallucination.

[Sharrack]

So, how will they explain that the whole galaxy won't go down the drain? With all main planets severly damaged, the major part of the galactic fleet traped inside Sol and all Mass Relays destroyed, cutting off all colonies depending on incoming goods to survive. Because that's my main point, deciding if the Mass Effect Series is dead to me or not. Prequels would become uninteresting as in the end nothing will matter and sequels would be "MassOut" or "FallEffect" (Ok those might actually be interesting but i think they stated they only want to go the Prequel route).

[SomeKindaEnigma]

Very fitting that this is announced the day after EA is named the worst company in America. And wasn't an announcement first originally planned for tomorrow?

[Thanatos144]

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

AdamGreene13 wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

"We believe in our team's artistic integrity"

There's that word again. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Ha! 

Cause you are the expert on what others think are artistic huh????????

I remember you.  


Because, of course, you are the Artistic Expert sent to us from Above.
/sarcasm

Nope Art is subjective to who is experiencing it.

You just invalidated your own previous point.  I'm not, you're not, nobody is.  It's all personal opinion, like the quotes you attacked above.  

No it doesn't cause no one said you had to like it or are entitled to demand they change it.

[daKINGGP33]

If the whole starkid thing is still in then I'm done. That just destroys the whole story to me

[olly_ryles]

Are you still listening bioware/EA... Its almost like your treating this as a matter of pride. Its not. your game is good, more than good... its brilliant. The ending isn't. It's weak, contradictory to the rest of the story - and no amount of artistic merit is going to change that. You're loosing your fans & your credibility. Negotiate with your community. Tell us the cost of making a new, better, more consistent and satisfying ending that doesn't compromise (whoever wrote the endings) artistic integrity and the community might contribute. Be honest, we are!

And personally, closure comes with an alternate ending to the ones provided. But none the less thank you for listening and offering something, it might just not be enough though.

Thank you for three brilliant games and not so much thanks for one of the endings.

[nikola8]

Thank you Bioware. You are a great company. Standing by your vision (albeit with new cutscenes) was the right move, and I'm sure it wasn't easy. Looking forward to the future DLC and installments in the Mass Effect universe.

[Izana]

The way I see it, the problem with the ending is not how it ended, but the lack of information of what happend. In the final momment of the game, Shepard needs to make a choice of three options. While you might believe that it's just like a "A,B,C" ending, it's more to it when you think about it. I don't know all the outcomes, but I know this:

If you chose to destroy the Reapers, there are three outcomes depending on what you did.

1. If you have too little War assets, the Reapers are destroyed, but all organics face the same fate.

2. If you have enough, Sheperd dies, but saves the rest.

3. With the highest, Sheperd survives, as do the rest.

From what I can tell, War assets were dependent on what choices you made in the games. Not just in the main game, but also in the previous ones. It would take too long to explain certain exampes, but in short, it depends on who is alive and who is not. From that prespective, the promise for a number of different endings wasn't a lie.

However, because of fact that you never find out what your final choice meant, all endings look the same. If there was something that explained what happend to the characters and what happend to Sheperd (If he/she did not die), it could enough to give us a closure to the series. So what I'm saying is that I think they shouldn't change the ending itself, but an expansion that answer the question "What the hell just HAPPEND?!!!".

Although, if I got to be honest, I disliked the fact that the Normandy and it's crew crashed on some random never-before-seen planet in the end. Personally, I would wanted them to crash on the only place on earth that was not on fire.

Modifié par Izana, 05 avril 2012 - 08:15 .

[Mhg122287]

I really do hope all of the plotholes will be adressed and we dont get half-assed answers.

[the_red_one1223]

ScrltFx wrote...

I am extremely conflicted about this game at the moment. I keep hearing "this is the end of the trilogy" and then I go for my second play-through, and Shepard takes a breath at the end! Playing through a second time broke my heart, because I already knew how it ended. I no longer had the hope to see Kaidan after being transported to the Citadel. I finish this game feeling empty and shattered. I have grown such an attachment to this game, seeing how my decisions affect the entire world, and to see it end in such away... I was hurt.

Nonetheless, I still want to see what they come up with for this DLC. I may be in denial, as they keep saying that this is the end, but I still have hope that maybe, JUST MAYBE, they're pulling our legs, and the ending wasn't actually real.

I'm suddenly hopeful that this'll end up being a really late April Fools joke...I mean....wth are they thinking?? If 90% or more of the fans are going 'change the ending', how the hell is this DLC making things better?!

For now...I'm just going to get the DLC, see what the hell happens, and HOPE that this doesn't make me want to stop buying any other ME-related product.

[Zerohero17]

daKINGGP33 wrote...

If the whole starkid thing is still in then I'm done. That just destroys the whole story to me

Oh you mean the starkid that was shoved in the last minute because they did not know what else to put in the little time EA gave them? You mean the thing that is NEVER EVER mentioned during the other games but in the last minute gets throw in like a bad joke that your father keeps telling to every person you meet?

[RogueWriter3201]

As to the announcement? Honestly, I'm somewhat disgusted, and more then a little outraged. This "Extended Cut" sounds like something they slapped together out of DLC they already had planned. From what little they revealed it seems as if it's a banal attempt to slap a band-aid on the staggering mistake that is the ending in the hopes it will silence "some fans" (i.e. the Retake Movement) enough so that those who remain in Protest can be cast in a negative light by BioWare, i.e. "Look, we tried to work with them and it's clear nothing we do will make them happy."

What's worse is I'm seeing evidence that this "shinny keys" tactics is working on some of us. We need to Hold The Line, now more then ever. This is, once again, EA/BioWare seeing what they can get away with. We have to show we will not be placated by Anything Less then the content we were promised before ME3's launch via DLC which not only fixes the ending, but is made with the same quality as the majority of ME3's content. Hold The Line.

[kbct]

daKINGGP33 wrote...

If the whole starkid thing is still in then I'm done. That just destroys the whole story to me

It's not Starkid. It's Jar Jar Star.

[Heather Cline]

Awesome Name what we've been wanting since the game endings have been known is to have the option to say AI child screw you. Or choose a different path. Shepard as a character has been telling the reapers to screw off, has been telling the Council that she/he can do the impossible. Has been fighting against all odds to stop the invasion.

Fact is none of our decisions mattered. Shepard was character assassinated, the entire universe was destroyed with the destruction of the Mass Relays.

What we want is the other endings we were promised. You can keep your color coded endings if you like, but what we the retake movement want is the option to have Shepard live, and end up with LI and crew as well as other endings that will fill in the grey area between the current bleak/crap endings so that everyone gets a little of what they want.

That is what we really want. If you want to keep your color coded endings go right ahead. We don't want people who like the endings to be forced to having different endings. We want the option to be present though. That is what we want and that was initially what was promised by BioWare before game launch. What we got was just ABC which was just 1 ending with color coding.

So yeah this extended cut isn't what we are wanting at all.

[Thanatos144]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

Very fitting that this is announced the day after EA is named the worst company in America. And wasn't an announcement first originally planned for tomorrow?

I am sure they became one of the largest game companies ion the world by
making crappy games..........Because it makes money means it is opposite
of a bad company...

[Luvinn]

feces
plural of fe·ces
Noun: Waste matter discharged from the bowels; excrement.

There you have it, you can clarify crap to your hearts content, but in the end it's still crap.

[medikcz]

Just want to say that I still (somehow) didn´t lose my hope after reading this. I have been digging on net and have found some interresting info about this DLC (about one month old). So I still do trust Bioware for doing this on purpose. So: Thanks for even the possibility of the DLC. I would say not many other companies would do that. I´m waiting and hoping you won´t fail in such a horrific style a lot of people expect you to.
If you do, you save me money...

[rizuno]

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
 Cause you are the expert on what others think are artistic huh????????

I remember you.  


Because, of course, you are the Artistic Expert sent to us from Above.
/sarcasm

Nope Art is subjective to who is experiencing it.

You just invalidated your own previous point.  I'm not, you're not, nobody is.  It's all personal opinion, like the quotes you attacked above.  

No it doesn't cause no one said you had to like it or are entitled to demand they change it.

0.o  ?  That makes no sense...if you could please...clarify...for me, if you can.  If not...you may need an entirely different sentence there.  

[AIR MOORE]

Khayness wrote...

Good luck. You'll need it.

First post.

Summed up entire thread, so it's QFT.