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[TFJetfire]

Just saying.....
www.joystiq.com/2012/04/04/ea-is-the-consumerists-worst-company-in-america-wins-golden/

[ShadowNight7x]

i was hoping you get to marry your LI

[Basher of Glory]

Izana wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Zalera1 wrote...

All the endings will still be the same. All what you will still get is a diffrent color.
Decisions from Mass Effect 1 & 2 won't matter in the end.
War Assests won't matter either.
This is just an Extended Cut as clarification.
Artistic Vision? How dare they, Bioware, call themselves artistic after making DA2 and ME3.
They should be ashamed of themselves.

Where did you get that the war assets don't matter? It tells you you make it earth and it tells you how many of the three ending you get it tells you how you final choice ends........Who told you that it doesn't matter?

Obviously, he does not know that low war assets means everbody dies.

Supposing that most of us had enough war assets to get all possible endings, it was for all of us the same, regarding the last minutes, which destroyed utterly what we built up in ME 1 - ME 3.
Now we heard and read often enough that this is the "artistic vision" which the BW-people are proud on.
DA 2 set the trend and ME 3 is totally in line with it.

This behaviour is typical for an oligarchy which EA and some others have formed or are about to form.

IMO the "ME3-scandal" is not the end of the line, as long as customers don't start to boycott vigorously and consequently products of certain developers and publishers.

Modifié par Baher of Glory, 05 avril 2012 - 09:11 .

[riddick14015]

I speak English just a little bit so maybe you find a few mistakes instead of some words and I am sorry about it...I loved mass effect....i just loved it.....mass effect story is something...what I never forget...I win ME1 72x times and ME2 58x (ME3 just 5x yet)....this story have something what nothing else have (books, other games, movies)....if somebody ask me what is for example DA, i will tell him its really good game and he should play it....if someone ask about ME..."you just must play it..its something what change you..(now i will be talking about paragon, because in some case is renegade shepard such a...you now)...its about love, peace, friendship, many strongs charakters and many other things, but mainly about one man/woman....who don't discrimination, who fight for better world, better galaxy...fight for everyone and everything...It's about commander Shepard...fighting for another day....every species believe in him/her (except few vorcha and batarians) and acknowledge him/her....BIOWARE...you properly don't know, why so many people are so angry and I am sure in one thing...that kind of response from fans wasn't in anything else on the world...and you should be proud on it...it's because we really care about what happened in the end....after amazing 4 years playing I came in the end....and about indoctrination theory...many people really don't bealive that...we just want something, what give us hope, what give us chance don't say goodbye yet...say goodbye to mass effect universe and to Liara, Tali, Garrus, Wrex, Ashley/Kaiden, Anderson, Joker, Edi, Grunt, Jack, Miranda, Jacob and next many amazing charakters i don't mention...and don't say goodbye to commander Shepard....in 2008 i started play...speaking to myself "this is and other 2 games of trilogy will be immortal masterpiece" and I was right....but just that end....I don't want tell it's not a good job..everyone of you in bioware who do anything on ME - you are a heroes for me..actually, because of you I went before 2 years studying IT and my dream job is working for you..BIOWARE (I lived in Czech Republic, travel will be expensive)....(hopefully working on ME).....but in the end od ME3 it's just.... so many questions without answers....I believe you do amazing work on "Extended Cut" like you always do in everything about ME...you created something, what no one else on the world did....thank you (and I am sure every fans too)...last minutes of game broke my heart but still...děkuji vám za všechno (translation: Thank you, for everything)....and...I'm proud of you

[kbct]

Thanatos144 wrote...

ShinsFortress wrote...

ME3 already down to £17 on Amazon UK.....

so Amazon is having a sale on it.....So?

60% off after a month? It's discounted at a number of retail locations. Amazon UK is just one example.

[crazyrabbits]

Thanatos144 wrote...

You bought the game.....actually it is a licends to play said game but to own said game you would have ownership to sell and change....

You need to stop talking, boy.

Nowhere in current copyright law does it state that buying a product means a licence to play it, regardless of what medium it's in. If you bought the disc, you own the disc. The content is copyrighted and non-transferable for commercial use, but you do (in certain countries) have the right to make personal backups.

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't bother.

Modifié par crazyrabbits, 05 avril 2012 - 09:13 .

[Thanatos144]

Baher of Glory wrote...

Izana wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Zalera1 wrote...

All the endings will still be the same. All what you will still get is a diffrent color.
Decisions from Mass Effect 1 & 2 won't matter in the end.
War Assests won't matter either.
This is just an Extended Cut as clarification.
Artistic Vision? How dare they, Bioware, call themselves artistic after making DA2 and ME3.
They should be ashamed of themselves.

Where did you get that the war assets don't matter? It tells you you make it earth and it tells you how many of the three ending you get it tells you how you final choice ends........Who told you that it doesn't matter?

Obviously, he does not know that low war assets means everbody dies.

Supposing that most of us had enough war assets to get all possible endings, it was for all of us the same, regarding the last minutes, which destroyed utterly what we built up in ME 1 - ME 3.
Now we heard and read often enough that this is the "artistic vision" which the BW-people are proud on.
DA 2 set the trend and ME 3 is totally in line with it.

This behaviour is typical for an oligarchy which EA and some others have formed or are about to form.

IMO the "ME3-scandal" is not the end of the line, as long as customers don't start to boycott vigorously and consequently products of certain developers and publishers.

all the ME games ended like this....You just didnt mind it then.

[bleachorange]

Thanatos144 wrote...

bleachorange wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

and from 'artistic integrity' we jump to 'ur toostuuupd to get ending'. 
What a shock.

No actually sadly it isn't.....I had hope. You don't like the
ending...Fine. Why should they change it cause you don't like it? How do
you think you are entitled to more than what they give you?

I'm entitled now? Entitlement is expecting something for nothing. That's not the case at all. We were promised one thing and given another.

What if you bought a house, and the contractor built it, but it wasn't what they told you it would be when you purchased it? That's the same situation as this.

No you wernt. you were promised nothing more than a game with a story in it. Nothing more.

Actually... we were promised a great deal of things.
Here's one of them.
http://threwmycontro...g/me3ending.png

Modifié par bleachorange, 05 avril 2012 - 09:14 .

[Anglamite]

Nobody (that I've seen) has argued this issue of the Crucible. Every cycle has contributed to it's construction/blueprint, but none had figured out the catalyst was the citadel. How did they manage to build something so perfectly suited to fit the citadel without knowing they needed it to be so big? It's like knowing there's a bullet out there for the gun you're making, and, upon finding said bullet, discovering it's a perfect fit.

[Ethical]

GuyIncognito wrote...

It all makes perfect sense.

Shepard is the Old God Baby from the Warden and Morrigan.

---------------------------------

Not the first time we've had an unresolved plotline as the above statement has indicated. Lighten up folks.

Uhm, have you heard of Dragon Age 3? It's suppose to continue the story and stuff. This is the finale of Mass Effect and it still has unresolved plotlines which the producers said it would not.


Bioware Good luck in the future, me and my friends will feed our RPG thirst somewhere else, perhaps CDprojekt, I heard they added new endings to the Witcher 2 for free...

[Thanatos144]

crazyrabbits wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

You bought the game.....actually it is a licends to play said game but to own said game you would have ownership to sell and change....

You need to stop talking, boy.

Nowhere in current copyright law does it state that buying a product means a licence to play it, regardless of what medium it's in. If you bought the disc, you own the disc. The content is non-transferable for commercial use, but you do (in certain countries) have the right to make personal backups.

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't bother.

Really? You think so????/ Ever think there is a reason you dont have comercial rights to it? Cause you dont owwn the content just the right to use it.

[brusher225]

First I want to thank you for the many hours of exquisite gameplay I've enjoyed. It's been a wonderful journey, every minute of it, since I started playing for the very first time with ME1 when it was first released up until, but not including, the ending.It was a long and passionate journey. But when the ending sequence started, it felt like you literally took my game controller out of my hands and said, "I'll take over from here. This is the ending we want you to have no matter all the previous choices you made along the way to get to this point."

Well, I still feel the same way after reading your explanation concerning the coming DLC about the ending.

You said you listened to us. I don't see how you can possibly say that when your fans have repeatedly stated otherwise. And when I say "your fans", I don't mean "some", as you still seem intent on minimalizing.I mean the vast majority as you well know. If it were only "some" I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be spending any more money on some DLC to "clarify" the ending.

That same "vast majority" have repeatedly stated that "clarification" is NOT what we needed, and that "more closure" does not necessarily explain our reasons for discontent. But yet you seem intent on overlooking these facts and try to explain our feelings away using words or phrases like "some fans","clarification", and "more closure", which is an insult to my, and others, intelligence. It is clear now that you didn't listen and are intent on cramming the current ending down our throats whether we like it or not, and that basically your fans are too stupid to know a fine peace of art when they see it even though we loved the game up until the ending. If the ending was art, wasn't the rest of the game, which we all loved, art as well?

I'm very saddened after reading about the coming DLC. I have no desire to replay any of the series now when I know it's all going to end the same. The same miserable A,B,C, ending with the translucent star child which makes no sense whatsoever. Who wants to read a story that leaves out the last chapter and has no ending?

Modifié par brusher225, 05 avril 2012 - 09:20 .

[CerberusCheerleader]

AwesomeName wrote...

Perhaps the extended cut will give you the option to tell the Catalyst to F' off.  I hope the DLC gives us that - it would add to the whole scene and it would be much more in Shepard's character.

How will an expansion that contains "additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes" give you the option to do anything? <_<

[Thanatos144]

kbct wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

ShinsFortress wrote...

ME3 already down to £17 on Amazon UK.....

so Amazon is having a sale on it.....So?

60% off after a month? It's discounted at a number of retail locations. Amazon UK is just one example.

So? Maybe they had a huge backstock for the UK...If I understood they didnt get the game at the same time us in the US did and many were pissed by that.

[bleachorange]

Thanatos144 wrote...

TFJetfire wrote...

bleachorange wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

and from 'artistic integrity' we jump to 'ur toostuuupd to get ending'. 
What a shock.

No actually sadly it isn't.....I had hope. You don't like the
ending...Fine. Why should they change it cause you don't like it? How do
you think you are entitled to more than what they give you?

I'm entitled now? Entitlement is expecting something for nothing. That's not the case at all. We were promised one thing and given another.

What if you bought a house, and the contractor built it, but it wasn't what they told you it would be when you purchased it? That's the same situation as this.

I agree completely - the ending has SLIGHT differences but same results each time.  THAT is what has to be addressed.  Adding extended scenes won't change this.  Bioware is clearly missing the point of the frustrations here with the endings.  Even if the DLC is free...

The same results are only two things and thats what it all boils down to.......You dont like the two things....sorry but they dont owe you any thing let alone owe you change of  those thing.

Please clarify your statement. I'm afraid I don't understand "the same results are only two things and thats what it all boils down to"

[weltraumhamster89]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

This does nothing for me and I suspect does nothing for a vast majority. I don't want clarification and closure with extended cutscenes and whatever other garbage they throw together. I want my decisions to frakking matter in the end. They can't explain all of this crap away. All this is, is a means to placate angry fans who say the ending is crap. Which it is.

Bioware... letting EA make this anouncement is horrendous. A PR Fubar to the extreme. I'm sorry... without an ending that actually makes sense and then closure for that ending... a lot of Bioware fans will jump ship and never buy their product again. I include myself in that category.

Without an ending that makes sense and provides closure to so many things left open I predict a mass return or trade in of all Mass Effect games. There will be no point in replaying the games. None at all. I'm sorry... what little faith I had is has now left the building.

[rizuno]

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

rizuno wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
No actually sadly it isn't.....I had hope. You don't like the
ending...Fine. Why should they change it cause you don't like it? How do
you think you are entitled to more than what they give you?

I'm not entitled.  I bought and paid for a product which in some ways, I find to be unsatisfactory.  I am in the process of informing them of this, and while I neither expect or demand that they do something about it, I sincerely hope they do.

I find that the endings do no justice to the series and destroy the story which I had previously enjoyed.   

You bought the licends to play the game not the game itself or any content in it.

I did buy the game itself.  I have a nice shiny box with two shiny discs inside of it.  I think your definition of 'license' may be slightly skewed.  

try reproducing said game with changes in it then selling that product and tell me how much ownership you have.

I said I bought the f****** game, not the trademark or the right to redistribute it.  If you walked into my apt right now, took the game, and left, I could sue you in a court of law.  That's how much ownership I have.  

I just love getting devolved into these little mini-debates with you that have no point or purpose.  

You bought the game.....actually it is a licends to play said game but to own said game you would have ownership to sell and change....

And...That's my limit of banging my head against a wall that cannot spell, and does not have a grasp on the English language.  Begone, foul troll, for I am done with you today.
i.e., I iz off from work baby!  Farewell, for today forums!  Love to all, even trolls.  /Rizu out.  

[NedPepper]

Well, Bioware, they are not pleased. Still. This is what happens when you give in to mob mentality.

[crazyrabbits]

Thanatos144 wrote...
Really? You think so????/ Ever think there is a reason you dont have comercial rights to it? Cause you dont owwn the content just the right to use it.

The only thing you've done is fell for EA's spiel. Copyright law doesn't work like that. As a writer myself, I am well versed in it (not that it means anything regarding my presence on this board).

No one is saying the consumer has commercial rights to the IP. That's false.

What I'm saying is, as it stands, you own the physical copy of any disc for any piece of media you buy, under the condition that you don't infringe upon the rights of the copyright holder by making unauthorized copies for commercial use. Anything more than that is restrictive to the consumer.

Simply put, you don't get a "licence" to own a disc. That's false.

[...Of shadows and dust]

So there is hope.
Good enough for me. Bring it on, Bioware.

...But remember; I want my blue babies!!!

[rpgfan321]

Hey, what do you know? Bioware actually responded. And it's free!
At least they decided not to charge us for it. I'll look forward to this and whatever story-DLC in the future.

[FreshRevenge]

You know what is funny or ridiculous. Is fans on here haven't even received it yet and all ready complaining?

Obviously they aren't going to say what exactly is going to be released.

I

[bleachorange]

kbct wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

ShinsFortress wrote...

ME3 already down to £17 on Amazon UK.....

so Amazon is having a sale on it.....So?

60% off after a month? It's discounted at a number of retail locations. Amazon UK is just one example.

Seen Skyrim lately? Still going strong at $59.99 American.

[kreol1q1q]

After reading this, i felt something die inside me......

[Thanatos144]

crazyrabbits wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
Really? You think so????/ Ever think there is a reason you dont have comercial rights to it? Cause you dont owwn the content just the right to use it.

The only thing you've done is fell for EA's spiel. Copyright law doesn't work like that. As a writer myself, I am well versed in it (not that it means anything regarding my presence on this board).

No one is saying the consumer has commercial rights to the IP. That's false.

What I'm saying is, as it stands, you own the physical copy of any disc for any piece of media you buy, under the condition that you don't infringe upon the rights of the copyright holder by making unauthorized copies for commercial use. Anything more than that is restrictive to the consumer.

Simply put, you don't get a "licence" to own a disc. That's false.

Didnt say you did...I said you got the licends to play the code on the disk.