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"Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3"

How can anyone who despises the ending in its current form be possibly satisfied with this anouncement?? :huh:
Sometimes I really don't get people...

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I'm glad there was an announcement on this issue and there is some kind of an effort to clarify some of the confusion created by their 'artistic vision', however, what happened to the 'we are listening' mantra? Guess they listened and decided to not hear or only heard what they wanted.

The 217,000 replies posted in the thread created here to get our suggestions from 'some fans' regarding feedback was pointless and set up to appease the fans that just don't seem to get their artistic integrity.

I will hold out hope that the extended DLC will bring about closure and give me that, I want to play again feeling, but 'creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes' is not exactly what I was hoping to get from my ME experience. If I wanted to go to the movie, I'd go when it came out.

I'm trying not to be sour about this as I do appreciate that some kind of effort is being made and really hope that it will help but its seems rather insulting..."Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding." Okay.

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_Arkayne_ wrote...

You know what f**k it
I'm out.
I could take the bad ending,sure,you can't hate someone for bad writing.
But I'm done with these PR statements that just boil down to "F**k you,were awesome".
I'll save my money for Valve from now on.


Quoted with great praise. Is the guy who runs this "artistic vision preservation society" under Bioware employ or EA i wonder.  

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For what it's worth, thank you Mass Effect team! I'm really exited about this announcement, and it's exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks for releasing it for free, and I can't wait to see it! :) Keep up the hard work you guys, and I'll say again- thank you for everything.

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We haven't even seen the 'Extended Cut' yet. First, everyone bashed the ending, which they have the right to. Now they are bashing unreleased content. It's quite presumptuous to do that.

If Bioware had released new endings, some people would still be upset because they might not release the "right endings". No matter what, Bioware was not going to make everyone happy.

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Thank you, Bioware. I never had a problem with the general idea of the ending just the little parts that didn't really make sense. I appreciate the gesture.

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 Wow they aren't even adding new endings. Tbh I no longer care how stupid the plot holes or the 'artistic design' are... they have exceeded the limits of stupidity.I don't even care if they keep the old endings... But what I, and many others, wanted was MORE endings, MORE choice! Not just an extra 2 mins of cut scenes to show us the same ending repeated in different colours.... AGAIN.Jesus Bioware, you've really done it this time.
<_<

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LordDeimos4 wrote...

Reanimated One wrote...

This "hey come here so I can punch you in the face again" response is the final straw.

We were listening, were you? Were you really? What were you listening to? Because if you were then you would understand that giving us more of an explanation of an ending that makes no sense is not what most wanted. We wanted an ending that makes sense, live or die, and that doesn't make it feel like a self performed root canal.

Instead we get a "We're sorry you're too stupid to understand what we meant, so here's more pretty pictures to explain it better." Screw you guys. This thing isn't even going to be worth the space it is going to take up on the hard drive.

I hope your "artistic integrity" (which you compromised many times before) was worth DLC and game sales in the future because I won't be paying for either. Just when I thought that you as a company could not do anything worse than you had already done, this comes out.

Congrats. You have outdone yourself..... in the worst possible way.


This! Its pretty amazing how Bioware has managed to ruin its reputation among its core fans in the space of a few weeks.


It's been coming on for a while.Though, I think most people fail to realize how many games EA puts out. You'll have to be careful to boycott them all, as you may end up buying one by accident. No Madden, No Amalur, No Sims, No C&C, etc.

EA is the real world basis for the Reapers. They harvest one developer, squeezing all creative juices from them, before moving on. I mean, the ending for ME3 is unoriginal. If I turned that in for my thesis, I would have gotten in trouble for using someone else's conclusions in my work.

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CerberusCheerleader wrote...

"Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3"

How can anyone who despises the ending in its current form be possibly satisfied with this anouncement?? :huh:
Sometimes I really don't get people...


this

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I know how the crew got from earth to the normandy they borrowed the transporters from Star Trek and beamed everyone aboard and left Shepard behind to avoid getting a court martial and being shot in a firing squad.
The Grandpa speaking to the young boy is actualy the starchild all grown up.
An the destruction ending where we see shepard breath is actualy his last breath as he dies as every cybernetic implant in his body exploded as the starchild informed him he would also die.
An there we have our happy ending the Star child grows up to tell story's of the Shepard legend and changes it to fit how he see's fit.

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Actually one of the things that I personally did want, was more information on what happened after the endings (I always assumed that there would not be a new ending, though I'd like one), how the Normandy and my squad mates ended up where they were etc. So, yes some more info will be nice.

Maybe even the hideous starchild might make sense with the DLC (Ok, unlikely, but hope springs eternal), we'll have to wait and see.

Let us just hope that it is not just the cutscenes being put back in...

Still, thank you Bioware for showing us all how much you appreciate your fanbase.

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Freskione2 wrote...

I'm glad there was an announcement on this issue and there is some kind of an effort to clarify some of the confusion created by their 'artistic vision', however, what happened to the 'we are listening' mantra? Guess they listened and decided to not hear or only heard what they wanted.


Exactlly. And as many are aware, they really didn't have to do anything at all. They could have sat there laughing with the millions they got from us. But to say "Hey we hear your frustration, we're going to do something about it." and then go do this is like giving free samples of **** on a stick. It may be the thought that counts, but in the end most of us feel like the stick.

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Hmmm...free is good. HOWEVER....

Clarification and expansion is all well and good, IF it explains
1. How I can breathe in space
2. How my squadmates who are presumably a smoking pile of ash due to Harbinger's beam magically appear on Tarzan the Jungle Planet in rosy good health
3. Why after apparent messy and complete death my Shepard is breathing in the rubble (of course, we all ASSUME that is Shepard...maybe it isn't...but then who else would be wearing N7? Is it James? Hope not - that would be too much)
4. Who the catalyst represents, exactly. Is this a pseudoreligious being? Please say it isn't so. I could go with some alien thing (like Q, sort of - too much Star Trek for me, I guess) but not God or some supreme being-type thing. Too trite.

If it presents the indoctrination theory as correct, and expounds upon that, I guess I could be happy with that, but that would imply that Shepard could have survived and they say the endings won't be changed...so then what? Is that when we "imagine our own ending"?

I guess we'll have to wait and see but based on the content of this announcement, I am skeptical. At least it is going to be free so we won't have to shell out any $$.

Also, this announcement begs the question..."extended cut" implies that the information was there at one time and was edited out, like the director's cut of a movie. Why? I can't understand that in a video game. It's not like they have to worry about people not wanting to sit in a theater for too long like they do with a movie. If this really is an "extended cut" and not freshly-created material, why didn't they just leave it in? Or is it freshly created and they are just calling it an extended cut because it sounds more "supportive of the artistic vision" that wrote the ending?

Summer is coming and we will see what they present to us. I hope, hope, hope it makes sense. I don't think there's any "fixing" the ending but at least the DLC could frame it in a way that makes it more palatable and logical. Hopefully.

Modifié par medusa_hair, 05 avril 2012 - 10:34 .


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What more proof do I need of corporate meddling?

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nikola8 wrote...

We haven't even seen the 'Extended Cut' yet. First, everyone bashed the ending, which they have the right to. Now they are bashing unreleased content. It's quite presumptuous to do that.

If Bioware had released new endings, some people would still be upset because they might not release the "right endings". No matter what, Bioware was not going to make everyone happy.


Those of us who see the entire ending as a joke have every right to hate this announcement.
Extended cut = MORE time with the god child probably.  What possible explanation can they possibly give?  Honestly they've already rejected the Indoctrination theory which at this point is writing the whole thing for them.  Its great their sticking to their "artistic integerity"  But it still tastes wrong.

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It's free. That's a step in the right direction.

Indeed.

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CerberusCheerleader wrote...

"Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3"

How can anyone who despises the ending in its current form be possibly satisfied with this anouncement?? :huh:
Sometimes I really don't get people...


The logic has to be that they will clairify the plotholes or lack thereof as they see it. Maybe it all does make sense and hold togther once they explain it.

The problem they face is there is not one issue with the endings. There are 3, at least:

1. People want rainbows and unicorns. They don't want the relays blown up or anyone hurt and for the Reapers to go away and the galaxy to be swell.  Those people are never gonna be won over short of the rainbows and unicorn endings.

2. People who want Animal House. This is the clairity/want to know what happened to my squadmates types. This appears to be who bioware is targeting to tell us that Garrus now runs a coffee shop and Tali is part of a vegan commune on Rannoch.

3. People who think the ending makes no logical sense. This can range from people who (wrongly) think blowing up the relays blows up the galaxy to the crowd that thinks the kill organics to save organics is awful logic. This group might be appeased if they flesh out the how and why of things but it doesn't sound liek this is the target group.

I'm in group 3 so I don't expect this to do mcuh for me.

Then again I don't get what the whole issue is. My game ended with Shep and Anderson looking out over the earth waiting for the Cruible to fire and end the Reapers. People keep talking about Sharchild, Space Magic and glowing elevators but that's just made up like the Matrix Sequels or Jaws 5. It never happened.

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Artistic vision my ass. The only reason they aren't completely changing the ending is to avoid pissing off the few that actually thought it was OK. God I hate marketing and PR crap.

I hope they at least give us a good f***ing reason as to why the rachni weren't in the final battle AT OUR SIDE even when we saved them both in ME 1 AND 3.

Either way I'm forever publicising the Mass Effect series as one that had the potential to become the Epitome of its genre, but didn't due to crappy decisions made to generate controversy in the first case (the ending) and to avoid it in the second (DLC).

Bioware, EA, all you people working there: for whatever it's worth, I hate you.

Modifié par Eliavres33, 05 avril 2012 - 10:40 .


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Best of luck to you, BioWare. We're going to have to part paths at this point.

Thanks for all the memories.

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Happy shepard with his LI, bioware, make it happen !

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This announcement is why this award was won:

Award winner

Modifié par sheppard7, 05 avril 2012 - 10:42 .


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Azgoroth wrote...

this isn't the end of bioware. WE, the people, asked for one to two things: To change the endings completely, or to add content that make the endings something that Shepard deserved. From what I am reading on these forums, the time and money that it would have taken to make completely new endings was both unrealistic and not worth the time.


And who the hell are you to decide what Shepard deserves?

You're a PLAYER.  Nothing more.  Shut your whiny, entitled mouth.  If you don't like it, go away like others are threatening to do.

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bleachorange wrote...

What more proof do I need of corporate meddling?


Didn't take long, did it? :wizard:

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Thanatos144 wrote...

One more time for the learning impaired, Because I don't follow lock step with the anger rage whiner crowd does not make me a troll.


No, but calling people names when they have many valid points does.

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chemiclord wrote...

Azgoroth wrote...

this isn't the end of bioware. WE, the people, asked for one to two things: To change the endings completely, or to add content that make the endings something that Shepard deserved. From what I am reading on these forums, the time and money that it would have taken to make completely new endings was both unrealistic and not worth the time.


And who the hell are you to decide what Shepard deserves?

You're a PLAYER.  Nothing more.  Shut your whiny, entitled mouth.  If you don't like it, go away like others are threatening to do.

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