Ryokun1989 wrote...
Did you realize the 'vision' you get when you touch the prothean beacon in Mass Effect 1 is actually footage of meat (organic) and electronic equipment (synthetic) mangled together? That's.. not a coincidence.
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
poerksen wrote...
Well, I saw EDI step out of the Normandy after having chosen the Red ending, so Im inclined to believe the starbrat is just full of bull****. Also he smiles when you chose synthesis or control as far as I remember.
Joker... Come in Joker!
Whats up Shep?
Joker, I need a bathtub with some water in it delivered to my location by shuttle. Oh yeah and that anti-synthetics gun Tali gave me at Rannoch.
poerksen wrote...
Well, I saw EDI step out of the Normandy after having chosen the Red ending, so Im inclined to believe the starbrat is just full of bull****. Also he smiles when you chose synthesis or control as far as I remember.
Joker... Come in Joker!
Whats up Shep?
Joker, I need a bathtub with some water in it delivered to my location by shuttle. Oh yeah and that anti-synthetics gun Tali gave me at Rannoch.
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poerksen wrote...
Well, I saw EDI step out of the Normandy after having chosen the Red ending, so Im inclined to believe the starbrat is just full of bull****. Also he smiles when you chose synthesis or control as far as I remember.
Joker... Come in Joker!
Whats up Shep?
Joker, I need a bathtub with some water in it delivered to my location by shuttle. Oh yeah and that anti-synthetics gun Tali gave me at Rannoch.
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Did you realize the 'vision' you get when you touch the prothean beacon in Mass Effect 1 is actually footage of meat (organic) and electronic equipment (synthetic) mangled together? That's.. not a coincidence.
You are mixing up Deus Ex and ME. Deus Ex is about the relationship of technology, transhumanism, etc, and what it is to be human. That is not the theme of ME.
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
No, you show your true colors as far as preferences in game. Control is the TIM option and TIM is NOT paragon.
cyniel wrote...
poerksen wrote...
Well, I saw EDI step out of the Normandy after having chosen the Red ending, so Im inclined to believe the starbrat is just full of bull****. Also he smiles when you chose synthesis or control as far as I remember.
Joker... Come in Joker!
Whats up Shep?
Joker, I need a bathtub with some water in it delivered to my location by shuttle. Oh yeah and that anti-synthetics gun Tali gave me at Rannoch.
The same thing happened to me! I think that the child wanted us to make that sacrifice but in actuality, I feel that it wasn't a destruction of all synthetics but rather just the reapers. Crazy child just wanted to scare us and see if we would sacrifice.
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
No, you show your true colors as far as preferences in game. Control is the TIM option and TIM is NOT paragon.
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
Vhaius wrote...
Give me the choice to defy. I am aware of the irony in that sentence.
Getorex wrote...
cyniel wrote...
poerksen wrote...
Well, I saw EDI step out of the Normandy after having chosen the Red ending, so Im inclined to believe the starbrat is just full of bull****. Also he smiles when you chose synthesis or control as far as I remember.
Joker... Come in Joker!
Whats up Shep?
Joker, I need a bathtub with some water in it delivered to my location by shuttle. Oh yeah and that anti-synthetics gun Tali gave me at Rannoch.
The same thing happened to me! I think that the child wanted us to make that sacrifice but in actuality, I feel that it wasn't a destruction of all synthetics but rather just the reapers. Crazy child just wanted to scare us and see if we would sacrifice.
THAT would make the Red ending acceptable (to paragons but unacceptable to renegades who "don't care for synthetics"). If that is clearly shown in the "clarification" I will lose SOME (by no means all because there is just too much f*cked up and illogical, nay, retarded, about the ending) opposition to the addition. It would also mean the Geth likely survived.
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Did you realize the 'vision' you get when you touch the prothean beacon in Mass Effect 1 is actually footage of meat (organic) and electronic equipment (synthetic) mangled together? That's.. not a coincidence.
You are mixing up Deus Ex and ME. Deus Ex is about the relationship of technology, transhumanism, etc, and what it is to be human. That is not the theme of ME.
Wait, so you're saying what I'm saying is not true? Because, you know, I can show you..
poerksen wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
Control is paragon? You die, how can you control anything while you are dead? More spacemagic? Who's in control after you are dead?
The starbrat smiles after you chose control, making it look like he tricked you or something?
Ryokun1989 wrote...
poerksen wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
Control is paragon? You die, how can you control anything while you are dead? More spacemagic? Who's in control after you are dead?
The starbrat smiles after you chose control, making it look like he tricked you or something?
Who the hell says you die? You go into the machine. You take the god's place.
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Did you realize the 'vision' you get when you touch the prothean beacon in Mass Effect 1 is actually footage of meat (organic) and electronic equipment (synthetic) mangled together? That's.. not a coincidence.
You are mixing up Deus Ex and ME. Deus Ex is about the relationship of technology, transhumanism, etc, and what it is to be human. That is not the theme of ME.
Wait, so you're saying what I'm saying is not true? Because, you know, I can show you..
No, I saw the same "vision" stuff you did but you interpret it differently than I do. It was NOT clear, it was NOT objectively clear. It was ambiguous for interpretation. I see it as simply indoctrination and/or "husking" of the Protheans. Husks ARE mostly synthetic husks made from organic feedstock. I don't see in that what you do.
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
No, you show your true colors as far as preferences in game. Control is the TIM option and TIM is NOT paragon.
Paragon is order.
TIM wanted an order with humans at the top. Control has Shepard at the top, how he fills in that role is of course up to the player. A paragon shepard in control might move all the reapers out of sight and eventually come to the same conclusion the god did. Might even still be paragon.
I actually picked synthesis because I thought that gave the species of the universe the best chance for creating a harmonious society for all.
the_red_one1223 wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
poerksen wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
Control is paragon? You die, how can you control anything while you are dead? More spacemagic? Who's in control after you are dead?
The starbrat smiles after you chose control, making it look like he tricked you or something?
Who the hell says you die? You go into the machine. You take the god's place.
Uh, the starchild is like 'You have to give up your own life to control the machines'. >>
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Getorex wrote...
Ryokun1989 wrote...
Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.
No. They created endings that either violate everything you were fighting against in all 3 games (blue and green) or violate anything but the renegade run (red). There is no option that is properly the paragon run. Renegade has NO qualms screwing over the Geth and EDI. Paragon does. Renegade gets a proper choice, paragon doesn't.
Control is perfectly Paragon. What is your definition of Paragon? Is it the same as 'good', because if it is you don't understand what paragon means.
No, you show your true colors as far as preferences in game. Control is the TIM option and TIM is NOT paragon.
Paragon is order.
TIM wanted an order with humans at the top. Control has Shepard at the top, how he fills in that role is of course up to the player. A paragon shepard in control might move all the reapers out of sight and eventually come to the same conclusion the god did. Might even still be paragon.
I actually picked synthesis because I thought that gave the species of the universe the best chance for creating a harmonious society for all.
This is getting old ...<_<SpiffsGhost wrote...
I like to think of the entirety of ME3 as an ending, a conclusion to many plot threads built up from the previous two games. Did the story sometimes venture in ways I didn't particularly like? Sure. But as much as Bioware wants the players to make this story their own, it is ultimately Bioware's story, and it was an incredibly fascinating, compelling story at that. You want your story to end the way you want? Build an unfathomably rich and complex game from the ground up and write the ending the way you envision it.
- Spiff
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