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[clone wars]

bioware i think this may help the Extended Cut dlc the choices in the ending can be viewed new way as a morality test from Harbinger and this star child aka catalyst ai to see how sheppard end the war now how yous show this on the dlc is up to yous

[Madeline Lightning]

I love how they label themselves as artists. Real artists make mistakes and learn. They didn't learn from this bad ending. They somehow think it's good. It's twilight zone ****ed up how anyone can think it's good. The game, and the name bioware will always be remembered as this ending which isn't a good thing.  Too bad whoever made the choice about the ending was going through a mid-life crisis.

Modifié par Madeline Lightning, 06 avril 2012 - 04:42 .

[What?]

So, does this actually give us a shot at a "happier" ending? Assuming we choose destroy and live.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 06 avril 2012 - 04:58 .

[Rabid Rooster]

"We Are Listening." MMM...suuuuuuure you are. Face Palm. Have they even read all the posts and all about our problems with the ending. Last nail...BioWare's coffin.

[jules_vern18]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

It's free. That's a step in the right direction.

No.  If it's free, you get less.  I don't know where this obsession with "it must be free!" came from, but I would be MUCH more willing to pay 10 or even 15 bucks to see a well-produced, thorough, and cohesive piece of fan-service.

Because so many people insisted it had to be FREEE!!!11!!, Bioware might have been afraid to create a fully-funded paid version and so we'll be stuck with a wall of epilogue text or 5 minutes worth of cut scenes instead.

I hope it's worth the 10 bucks you saved, because developer funding doesn't grow on trees.

[CerberusCheerleader]

AndrewRogue wrote...

I want to express my sympathy for Bioware's writers. It is my relatively sincere belief that this was not really the ending they had in mind.

This is the anouncement:

"Mass Effect™ 3: Extended Cut, a downloadable content pack that will expand upon the events at the end of the critically acclaimed Action RPG. Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3 deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes."

See? Expanding and clarification through  cinematics and epilogue. No changes. The ending in its current form (minus the cinematic and epilogue) is indeed what they had in mind. But it's understandable if you find that hard to believe...

[Zrani]

BUT it always was going to be
Destroy – no more reaper invasion problem
Make peace (programmed not to therefore send away/CONTROLL) – no more reaper invasion problem
Assimilate/remove reason for the destruction of organics (make hybrid) – no more reaper invasion problem

[reioni]

AndrewRogue wrote...

I want to express my sympathy for Bioware's writers. It is my relatively sincere belief that this was not really the ending they had in mind.

Honestly, there are ways the three choices ending could have been handled that were palatable. There were ways a lot of the concepts could have been palatable. Unfortunately, these were not them.

I will continue to believe that the people who did the first two games, and the majority of the third, are not particularly proud of this.

It reminds me a little of Matrix 3 and Star Wars Eps 1 (Phantom Menace).  They were such a let-down to me.  I expected better.  It seems to me many times these "artistic visions" are like the emperor's new clothes.  I guess that makes me a simple gal but i dont think that's always a bad thing.

Anyways, I will add my +1 here to the "that's not what I wanted BW - Add different endings" list.

ps. I made sure not to use the word "we" (<---except for right here).  So no complaining about that.

Modifié par reioni, 06 avril 2012 - 04:53 .

[Otaku Hanzo]

death_for_sale wrote...

I love the trolls in this thread who are trying to provoke people by saying they like the endings and that Bioware shouldn't 'cave' to their customer's demands.

See, in a real business, 'caving' is usually known as good customer service. Ask Nordstrom or Apple if the customer is 'caving' to customer demands is a bad thing. Then ask companies like EA, who win the worst company awards, about customer service.

I don't blame Bioware completely. They don't have any control over the situation. But as I said before, no new endings will mean I am no longer interested in their upcoming products. Products like DA3 and whatever ME4 will be called, because there WILL be a sequel of some kind to this game. Sequels are all EA have ever been interested in. But hopefully the trolls can sustain the profit margin, or else we can add Bioware to the list of companies that EA has ran into the ground.

[shadowpiranha]

I'm sorry but all I'm hearing is "here, we'll explain our amazing and complex artistic view to you as if you were really, really stupid - which you obviously are." from this. Buuut I guess I'll hold out judgement. They do say hope is the last to die...

[joblagz]

well, judgment reserved till i get the dlc..

[Generalputra]

I'm fine with this..

[Headrusher]

It's free guys, and we're preserving our "ARTISTIC INTEGRITY".

Like the stock Tali photo and stock ending background? Do the folks at Bioware actually read anything before they release it anymore?

I think you guys should hire some interns...to help you sort out how retarded a lot of your PR sounds.

[Zrani]

Generalputra wrote...

I'm fine with this..

As above

[Metalrocks]

dont expect much but as long it makes sense and clear things up, im happy.

[wrexnaught25]

This is going to backfire terribly. The people that were originally OK with the original endings will most likely be the only people satisfied with this "closure", but that still leaves the rest of the fan base, including the Retake ME3 movement, that were requesting new endings, or epilogue DLC's. Although, since the same endings are being kept, but with more "clarity", there are still going to be a few more important plot holes left, including the "the galaxy is screwed without the mass relays" plot hole. If this doesn't satisfy the fan base, I doubt many of them will still be around for attempt number three of putting out this fire that is the controversy of the ME3 endings.

In my opinion, Bioware should have just caved with the indoctrination theory, but that's just me. Nontheless, I still have great faith in Bioware and wish them the best of luck.

[Esquin]

You probably shouldn't be quite so proud of an ending that makes no logical sense. Dismisses key themes. Ignores major plot points. Introduces plot holes. Has characters acting entirely against the established nature of their characters and was generally received by nearly the entire fan base as being bad.

[Rabid Rooster]

I wonder how they think they will be able to not disscuss this, yet another failure, at PAX, it is all anybody there will want to disscuss/ask about......If, and I Hope, there are alot of Retake there?

I can see it now, "Yes sir/ma'am what is your question." Questioner asks about the ending and their failure to listen. Their answer "No Comment." Next Question the same, repeat and rinse.....This is going to be good or bad

[zeph08]

"DEAL WITH IT" =D

[Major Nemesis]

Extending? So they aren't changing it... Thats a bad choice. We don't want an explanation, we want the option of having a good ending. You can keep all the existing endings in the game but we also want an actual good ending where the mass relays don't explode, the Reapers get destroyed, and Shepard lives. Oh yeah, and no ghost child... As an extended cut, this is only going to make people more angry at why you decided to kill Shepard. It will also only show everyone sad that they lost Shepard. Why do we want to see that?

[Yves Goyette]

Acadis wrote...

R.i.P ME Universe Bioware killed you.

5 years playing for nothing, thank you Bioware.

This is not right and not fair,we all have good time with the ME games and others.

The ending is good for another style of game but weird  for the mass effect universe because we play completely in the opposite way all the time in the three games,except  for the crucial last  ten minutes ending, and in MY opinion with all respect,,,it`s a bad script to giving the last dialogue of Shepard to the child(or catalyst if you like).The good ending  for me is a action one, base on war and unifying the galaxy for the caracters we love and grow ,not the phlegmatic one that will stop you for a moment and thinking phylosophy (damn what happen to me?) but this not the way Bioware see the ending of Shepard and THEIR story..and  that`s it.

But this is not fair to insulting the compagny in all sides like this.I`m a big fan of ME universe like many others and very disappointing and sad of the turn of events but i don`t play for nothing.
But in the future..  i close my words in the opposite side of the ending of me3.. i don`t think there will be another story  for THE Shepard ..sorry.

[scomoletti]

Kargsure wrote...

da mighty rEAper wrote...

youre worthless ppl. they could consider making/remaking a full fledged ending sequence adding couple hours of gameplay if there werent poors who cry for free dlc, **** you

I, and many others said we would gladly pay money for a new ending dlc - on the condition it wasn't half-assed and rushed.  There will always be what I presume to be a minority (I could be wrong maybe it is a majority), that will cry poor and demand a free dlc - but I am a realist - producing DLC costs money I never expected to receive something for nothing.

There is no way I would be willing to pay for a new ending dlc. And I can't be nearly as polite or as gracious as a lot of the other posters who keep praising BW and their dev's hard work.. From my point of view I paid them for a product. This product was marketed in a specific manner. The advertising was very clear on the features and what it would and would not deliver. It didnt just fall short..it missed the entire target. 

It would be like going to a car dealer and buying a car which was marketed as getting 50mpg highway and crystal clear satelite radio..you pick up your new car..take it for your first road trip and find out it gets at best 38mpg and 1/4 of the radio stations are static. You take it back to the dealer and ask them to take a look..clearly something is wrong.. failed map or 02 sensor..maybe ecu needs a code update..something isnt quite right. And instead the dealer tells you that it's working as designed. Sorry, but this we couldnt possibly change it..it's a masterpiece. All of the car shows have priased it as the most desirable vehicle on the road. If we change it now it would be a blow to the artistic integrity of our engineers who created it. But since I see your so passionate about our brand I'll tell you what.. you can have this autographed book detailing the development of this model line, complete with new interviews from the engineers about their current projects so you will know which car you want to buy next!

They have a name for that. it's called bait and switch. Most states have lemon laws to protect the consumer from this type of behavior. I see ME3 as no different. They got my money for a preorder CE and I expect to receive what I paid for as it was marketed to me. To pay more to fix this is no different than if that car dealer said 'for $25k we can upgrade the engine for you to fix the performance to your liking'. Not happening. This is typical EA and it's a shame they are taking Bioware down with them.

EDIT:
Follow up thought.. Clarification and epilog dont fix this problem either. It still fails to deliver what was marketed. They have a long road ahead of them to fix this if they do at all.

Modifié par scomoletti, 06 avril 2012 - 05:57 .

[Praetor Knight]

Hmm... okay, so the new wait awaits.

I just hope for a twist with the Catalyst avatar and voice choice that we originally got. And I'm not a fan of the dreams, and to emphasize, the ethereal child avatar being used for the ending was not cool, IMHO.