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[darthnick427]

I'm wondering if this extended cut will add more cutscenes to the battle too....I'd love to see Wrex, Jack, Grunt, Zaeed, the Turians, Asari, Salarians, Humans, Krogan, Rachni, Quarians, Geth, Drell, Elcor, and the Merc bands all fighting in cutscenes. That's just be cool.

As far as the ending goes....As lot as they fill the plot holes, Make it so the Fleet isn't stranded at Earth, and not make the Normandy not crash land on a planet for no reason. I'm willing to swallow my pride and accept the rest.

[BecBec]

It still baffles me that there wasn't even an ending where the REAPERS WON.

[DigitalAvatar]

Nightstalka01 wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...
Because so many people insisted it had to be FREEE!!!11!!, Bioware might have been afraid to create a fully-funded paid version and so we'll be stuck with a wall of epilogue text or 5 minutes worth of cut scenes instead.
I hope it's worth the 10 bucks you saved, because developer funding doesn't grow on trees.

Agree with this 100%

Absolute rubbish. If BioWare had any intention of doing that they wouldn't have ruled out the potential of future changing to the endings. The unfortunate fact is that they never had any intention of changing their ****ty endings. There's nothing we could have done.

[Cyberfrog81]

Still too much ego there, guys.

Makes it hard to believe you actually do listen.

[Izana]

Kargsure wrote...

Ryokun1989 wrote...

Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.

I'm not arguing that (but will give you the point that many people are).  In my opinion there is NO good/right choice, only that there is one that is less bad than the others (it still sucks though).  My main objection is that my Shepard doesn't get the opportunity to object to having to choose one of the options given (it may be those are the only ones available and I'm actually fine with that - but my Shepard would still object rather than just choosing based on what seems blind faith that what the Starbrat is saying are the only options available).

You say that Sheperd's choices in the end is blind faith? Look here, if you were givien the choice to object the three choices, it would do them nothing good. The Reapers would kill them all, the cycle would continue and nothing would've changed. Sheperd and his allies knew that the Crucible was their only hope and they beted everything on it. Throwing it away is the same as telling everybody "SCREW YOU, YOU CAN ALL DIE!!!". He/she may not like the choices, but they were the only options that does not lead to victory of the Reapers. That's not blind faith, that's just being realistic. 

[Xarathox]

At least it's free.

Still, won't be wasting the hard drive space downloading it, since fan fic endings are still better than the piece of **** "star-jar" ending.

[Delivery]

See you BW ...

[Mysten]

Colour me excited.

I genuinely liked the ending, although I did feel as though it was a little short so a cutscene extension is very welcome. I'll happily play through the game again to experience the extended ending (just thinking about the Tuchanka arc is getting me excited to play again.)

[Kargsure]

Nightstalka01 wrote...

As much as the "artistic vision" of the writers has served them well until now, this one video explains why that term simply doesn't cut it with the existing ending...

www.youtube.com/watch   *contains spoilers*

I believe this pretty much sums up EVERYTHING that is currently wrong with the ending, while acknowledging that ME3 is still an amazing game. It also explains why simply providing extended scenes will not change or fix the issues that almost ruin the whole series, while providing ideas for simple and effective solutions to solve EVERY complaint that currently plagues this otherwise amazing and wondrous game...

Thankyou for this link it says so much about the ending.  I didn't actually realise, or at least I'd never stopped to think about, just how littel dialogue Star Brat actually has - as pointed at around 19:20 mark of this video - he only has 14 lines of dialogue - yep that's right in just 14 lines, he's apparently managed to convince us that everything we thought we knew up until that point was wrong - and that he knows best and we should just do as he says ....  Talk about shoe-horning an ending on.

[CamouflageUK]

"Oh and it's at no cost to you - the fan."

I see what you did there.... clever..

[Demoiselle]

Personally very happy with this. I liked the ending choices and the one I made so I'm glad they're not getting scrapped for a new one.

[Kargsure]

Izana wrote...

Kargsure wrote...

Ryokun1989 wrote...

Also, you don't seem to realize that people are arguing for ALL endings why they are the only right one.
To me that indicates they did something right when they created that choice.

I'm not arguing that (but will give you the point that many people are).  In my opinion there is NO good/right choice, only that there is one that is less bad than the others (it still sucks though).  My main objection is that my Shepard doesn't get the opportunity to object to having to choose one of the options given (it may be those are the only ones available and I'm actually fine with that - but my Shepard would still object rather than just choosing based on what seems blind faith that what the Starbrat is saying are the only options available).

You say that Sheperd's choices in the end is blind faith? Look here, if you were givien the choice to object the three choices, it would do them nothing good. The Reapers would kill them all, the cycle would continue and nothing would've changed. Sheperd and his allies knew that the Crucible was their only hope and they beted everything on it. Throwing it away is the same as telling everybody "SCREW YOU, YOU CAN ALL DIE!!!". He/she may not like the choices, but they were the only options that does not lead to victory of the Reapers. That's not blind faith, that's just being realistic. 

I'm not saying simply throw away everything - I'm saying at least question what the Star Brat is saying - how will you know if there is another option if you don't at least ask?

In just 14 lines of dialogue Star Brat has apparently convinced you that Synthetics & Organics can't get along sorry Tali & Legion your friendship meant nothing apparently, Edi realising that she would sacrifice herself for her friends - again not important because the Star Brat said that that's all impossible.  

Oh apparently I'm also happy to destroy all the mass relays despite my experience to date telling me that this will destroy each of the star systems they are in (and since the star brat doesn't tell us anything different our experience is all we can rely on), again because that's the option offered.   If those really are the only options, and there is no other possible choice that Shepard can make, then the brat needs to say a lot more to convince Shepard, and by extention me, that this is the case.  If he can do that I will happily choose whatever option he wants me to take.

Did Shepard sit back and just accept it when the Council said "You can't go to Ilos" - I don't think so, Did Shepard preserve the Collector Base simply because the IM said do it, Did Shepard decide to not cure the genophage simply because the Salarians said it was for the best, or kill off the Rachni for the same reason, or make any number of other choices throughout the series simply because someone said "This is the option you must choose" - Almost from the very first mission Shepard chose to question the choices and make up his/her own mind - yes sometimes Shepard did what was asked of her, sometimes (s)he did the exact opposite, and sometimes Shepard made it up as (s)he went along and did something in the middle or something else entirely the point was that Shepard isn't one to follow blindly - so why then was there no real questioning of the motives/logic/other options presented in the end.

Modifié par Kargsure, 06 avril 2012 - 11:07 .

[LOLandStuff]

The ending was exactly walking through a corridor and bumping on 3 doors. I choose one and then keep walking and it gets darker and suddenly I get a Game Over.
The Extended Cut gives me the impression of a pretty picture of what happened to me after the Game Over. There's this picture of my character having fallen on lots of spikes and suffered a severe death by impalement. And then credits roll.
Congratulations! You found out how you died.

[ile_1979]

Serpicos wrote...

I am cautiously optimistic.

I'm just cautious. Will remain on my guard though. If this ends in a few cut scenes and on screen text....meh... we'll see. As the man said, at least it's free...

[clone wars]

bioware i never ask this from any game studio but i go to have ask yous if can yous look at the ending from a fan point of view of the fans see on youtube or play the game and just see what we are talk about but this dlc will help me a bit bioware yous know this not go to be fix with just one dlc

Modifié par clone wars, 06 avril 2012 - 11:24 .

[Fillydilly]

The post is so full or sarcasm.

[0ts0]

If the writers-/developers had artistic integrity, they would damn straigth stick to the lore. The lore! 
I'm not sure how to respond to the newsflash about "clarification" of the ending - seems to me they're getting desperate, and desperation is as bad as rushing due to publisher demands it.

[Anthadlas]

Sorry Bioware but this is goodbye, It seems it is difficult to listen to or understand ur fans when u have your head up EA's arse

[WhereisBaoDur]

Mass Effect 3: Extended Space Magic DLC.
Here are a few things they said there would be in me3, and they were not.
explanations and lore about the reapers. (yes starchild) what about argos rho for example?
huge role of the rachni. (racnhi workers at the crucible)
yahg homeworld (it is really sur'kesh, isn't it?)
illium again (yes)
omega again, and possibly the collector base again, since it's the only reason according to ME: Invasion, for cerberus to take omega (cut to be paid as DLC later, and maybe omega only)
insights into shep, and his/her background (there were more in ME1, damn, you even had a quest there!)
all about the choices (they played a much greater role in the previous games than in this one)
return of the RPG (you get 2 options of dialoge instead of 3, and half the time you were used to).
you will play without knowing what you have to do, unlike me2 (mars, and you discover a big weapon, so it's over, just rally fleets in the most predictable way, and with the least replayability)
and what about the salarians, a major race treated like that. hold the line, sigh.
and they you got the endings, blue, red or green, get the one with shep alive if and only if you like multiplayer, and then, bam, extended space magic DLC, with no more gameplay and no different endings. it's over, folks

[Anthadlas]

ps. At this point Bioware it's about what ur fans want, not what u want. **** ur artistic integrity, we don't care for it and u lost all ur integrity when u released a sub par ending that made no sense

[Kioux]

BD Manchild wrote...

So I've heard the announcement of the "clarification", and I'm not impressed, to be honest. It's certainly better than nothing, and I hate to sound ungrateful, but I figure honesty is the best policy here.

I really don't see how it can resolve the monumental number of plot holes that the ending produced; in fact, from the sounds of things it's not even going to try. Somehow I figured Bioware wouldn't have the guts/brains to admit that the endings were terrible on all levels. Honestly the "artistic integrity" excuse is a huge cop-out that makes you sound utterly bloody arrogant, and it's an argument that really doesn't wash when you take the overwhelming amount of evidence against it into account.

I'm open to the possibility of being proven wrong - in fact, I wish Bioware would - but that would be nothing short of a miracle. As it is, I can't help but feel that Bioware are just putting a cherry on top of a pile of doo-doo. At present I can't see this pleasing anybody; I have the feeling it will backfire horribly.

I agree in most parts with this though I am not sure if I prefer it over nothing. I really tried to be optimistic about it but I just can't be. So they will explain and lengthen the last bits - but there are just aspects that I can't see them explain away. I fear that there will be half-arsed attempts to explain the illogical aspects and scenes that they created in the first place.
Suddenly Relay explosions come in 3+1 colors - the +1 one being the arrival one because it exploded differently...
Suddenly all ships have enough food for months and years to sustain an entire fleet until they snail-FTL'ed their way home? And suddenly there will be an explanation why the most loycal crew turned away from Shepard in the most cruical moment of the war and fled? Really?
This might be good enough for some people but giving me clarification on this will make it even more bitter and it may sound even more like an excuse to hold on to this... ending.
And depending on the choices you made - if I'm forced to take the ending at face value, the epilogue might just be even more depressing then the current ending. From my personal point of view - this was the worst choice. I feel like I need a food-tester for this DLC "treat".

[NordicLord]

well i guess thats it then. i wont play or buy anymore bioware games.

[Moriloke]

It may have already been posted in this thread (didn't check all the 64+ pages, grew tired of everyone stating that EA is ****, Bioware is dead, and many non constructive answers, even though there are some good opinions in all this, and some good thought process that is worth reading), but I think this is worth viewing, Bioware.

Because it's a well expressed opinion, a really not full of rage video that shows what really makes this ending problematic to us, when we surpass the emotionnal part. 39 minutes of " what made ME great, what makes a story worth following and loving, and how it was noot followed for an unknown reason in the late part of ME3".

This video contains many heavy spoilers for ME1 2 & 3.
www.youtube.com/watch

And we do respect and appreciate the writers' and developpement team's work. If we whine that much, that's because we CARE. Because we LOVE this whole universe. And we want all of this to be perfect, and we know YOU can do it, YOU're better than what we saw through ME3's ending. Because every bit of this universe was epic, legendary. And we don't want to remember all of this just with "the ending ruined it all..."

Still I'll give a chance to the DLC to make my first time through ME3 less SAD ( not in the story, but in my feeling regarding ME ), but I don't believe it will be what makes me redo the game(s) over and over. 

[CptDisaster]

So after the end of mass effect 3 I was disappointed to be nice.
(Actually wanted to remove the game and sell it)
Instead I turned my xbox off and said it will be ok just check the forums.
I was greeted by the warm arms of the retake movement and surrounded by fellow fans who had dislike for the ending and voiced it.

In the end Bioware brings us the amazing announcement we will not be getting a new ending but we will get an explanation as to why they hired a new writing team for the last five minutes of the game and how they are now going to try with some more shoddy programming and lazy background art to make it look like it was their work and belongs in the game.

But let me tell you this the only thing that would make me play the game again is a better ending. Not happier but one that actually provides closure doesn't create a blackhole worthy mass of loopholes and doesn't introduce a character whos face I hate wish burned in a firery death or he got cyber cot death.

Your little god child joke was ridiculous and a **** way to end the game period.
But now you tell me the ending will get better because of a couple of scenes your going to shove on in there.

Now tell me why would i get in a car knowing it will crash and i will die just to expierence the new leather seats?

Why would i put my self through extra DLC knowing in the end it doesn't change anything i'm still going to end up with the same god child with a not shepard pretending to be shepard and trying to make a choice between which colour skittles i like more.

So I guess its time to draw this to an end. All i wanted was one or two better endings that didn't **** up a franchise i have spent months of playtime in. Just 3 - 5 minutes worth of optional gameplay.(The icing on the cake would've been my babies blues but you know what i ain't getting them and i've accepted that) So yes Bioware I hope EA shuts you down after you try release another game because I know for one it will bring a smile to my face to see you held accountable for screwing with your fans and choosing Artist vision and we don't give a **** attitude over your fans. Well we can have a don't give a **** attitude to.
**** your staff your games (which isn't mass effect 3) as far as i'm concerned the game no longer exists.
**** your company and i'll repeat I'll have a satisfied smile when bioware closes shop because that will be the justice Shepard deserves.

Good Bye to the rest of the forums. May you keep up the good fight for those of you who see this before it is removed and I perma banned.

[tango jack]

I,ll check this out when someone uploads it to youtube after a playthrough to see what it is like. I know its free and all but once bitten twice shy.