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[LohnPondai]

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

You guys dont realize they dont care? We gave them feedback and they will just do what they want/planned. They'll never admit there is something wrong.

You can complain all you want but they really couldnt care less. If you really want them to LISTEN id urge you to turn in your copy of ME3 like i did. I bet if they suddenly had 500K returned copies we would have a decent ending in a short time.

I just hope that this hubris they are showing will be their downfall. Im done with BW and i really hope their attitude and their management of this fiasco will have an answer in the revenues of their following releases.

[Intervention1]

I'm cautiously optimistic about this. I don't necessarily want a different ending...
I just want to know that it was all worth it. Was my final choice really the right one? Nothing about the ending scene I saw indicated that it really was the right choice.

I think I just need to see a little more of what happens next.
Bring on summer.

[Sarah Knight]

Well wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Whailor wrote...

Too late BW, I personally don't care. Free or not, I will not get any ME merchandise from you anymore. Enough of one major screw up. And your total disrespect towards the consumer. When other companies botch their product, they fix it and don't try to find excuses. Several car companies have called back whole car models and replaced them for free, with a proper working machine. BW screws up (and no, this is not jus about "the endings", it's the whole ME3 story) and then claims as if they've done the good work, paying customers can go to hell and shut up?

I don't even remember for how many years I've been a loyal BW customer, pre-ordering every new title of theirs and what not. Always thought that "hey, it's BW, they'll deliver!". Yeah well you sure did this time. Thanks for making a final part of the trilogy where absolutely nothing done in previous parts and during the final part itself has any importance or effect on anything. And then telling to the face of those loyal customers that their opinions matter none? Sorry, but from now on I will very carefully consider what and if I will buy anything from BW. No more pre-orders, will wait and see once the product is out and what it is all about and then decide if I will get it at all. No more ME merchandise at all. Forget it. You've ruined a perfectly good game which had two very good parts with this final third fiasko.

Calm Down Derek And the other  Team of bioware/ea  Designers and Dev team and all that   are doing the best they Can For the Consumers  as i've had  backed them up as i always have done when they had  People Jumping down their throats saying they do not care about their Consumers  that they prefer profits  over  their paying consumers thats entirely not true  what any one thinks  So what if the ending had one Flaw or more than one  its Supposed to  be fun and memorable and at some key points make you laugh  with  the Dialogue of the crew of the normandy and other npc's   if Bioware never cared why would they bother Add  the extended Dlc ? why would they Listen to you and every one else who complains about the ending cause it didn't go your way? They do care they Listen to you and every one else that Tarnished their good reputation  they Mean well  enough to create the DLC that is Free that comes out  this summer  Hell they could just say  "good bye"  to all the games that they made and just be with their families and loved ones but no they  make great games enough to  make us consumers happy   i'm proud of bioware for putting the people first  listening to us complaining or offering our advice in the long run.

But the one thing that Gets me the most is that they did the Extended DLC out of the  Kindness of  their hearts  just to make amends they want to keep it the same way because of the  way that their Designers  made it i couldn't agree more with them on that i and a good Majority of people Minus those that don't see it the way that they do believes it was a good game  Hell  ME3 was a block buster Seller   within a small time frame  all the games that came out ME3 beat them by far  Regardless of the Negative feedback  that people complain about the ending.

if you want to Stop buying merch from bioware/ea  so be it  but you need to realize that  they do care about their customers  they took their time to make the Dlc   for  SP  on top of Fixing the issues with MP and giving us new characters that come out on Tuesday  the 10th  both which are free i couldn't disagree with how they work how they Aim to appease our needs and wants but they  are not like "cars" or other things that you've compared them to   cars and the things that you compared them to are different  they don't "recall" due to a minor problem  that a small amount of people complained about Car companies only recall them when their is a safety issue  that would Kill the driver and  its passengers  "pets if they do bring them" but  i'm just saying is that they put their customers first  but also  put their needs at heart to  they care about us in the end if they didn't they wouldn't be making dlc  or anything new Like some Games i know that never had Dlc    or didn't Release them till 2-3 years later they wouldn't listen to us to if they never cared  to  and yes i know i type to allot with more than likely allot of grammer problems but i don't really Give a damn  about my spelling i'm just saying that  bioware and Ea puts us first  if i was offered a job with them i'd gladly take it and still support them  day in and day out because thats how i feel about them.

lol... More power to you.If that is the way you believe.Sorry it doesn't wash with me.That is my opinion.I could be wrong.We will see after the CYA DLC.

understandable i'm not Saying that y people who complain are stupid and wrong or blind i'm just saying that with All the games that i've bought From both EA and Bioware i could litteally  Fill Two  midsize Dressers  with how much i trust bioware and EA they do put our concerns  and everything Else at heart and listen but they also put their needs  out their to  just because  a small amount of people who complain about it  doesn't mean that The ending should be changed from those that  probably outway the ones who Dislike it  they  Take our opinions and Concerns to heart i've bought many games and merch from them and i'm a proud supporter to them  hell the past week i've blown about 130 usd  on  MS points  and gave the Creds to them  from the packs and what not that i've bought from them. they are doing everything they can just to please the upset side of the community but in my heart i don't believe that it should change at all.

[VigorosoAlloy16]

I truely don't hate the ending. I just was mad that all the time I took customizing my universe of mass effect was completely ignored in the last 20 or so minutes of the game where it should be incorporated most. I would have been fine with THIS ending if it actually put in all of the actions we chose in the first games. I also don't like how Shepard is not himself unless of course he is indoctrinated. If they can explain the ending and incorporate all of our actions in the previous game I will be very pleased. Right now a lot of different people have different theories as to what happened at the end of the game and I would like to know if any of them are right or if none of them are right.

Modifié par VigorosoAlloy16, 07 avril 2012 - 02:47 .

[Sarah Knight]

Intervention1 wrote...

I'm cautiously optimistic about this. I don't necessarily want a different ending...
I just want to know that it was all worth it. Was my final choice really the right one? Nothing about the ending scene I saw indicated that it really was the right choice.

I think I just need to see a little more of what happens next.
Bring on summer.

i Agree Completely   Bioware does  have a good rep  Despite some of the comunity moaning and what not about the ending  Just because they don't get their way doesn't mean that they can't  "have fun on the mp"   hell i can't wait  for the new Characters on tuesday   the 3 i mainly wanted wer Geth inflitrator  Geth engineer and asari Justicar  and by god they came out with it and coming out tuesday with 3 new weps and consumables and probs   "mods" for the weapons to since i have every one of them currently  to level 5  and  Majority  of my weapons "minus N7 and ultra rares" to the max haha  mostly as i stated on i think 2 comments up i mentioned i spent "$130 usd went to ms points and in turn went to them" imo was worth it cause i got all but one weapon i wanted  so i am happy

Modifié par Sarah Knight, 07 avril 2012 - 02:49 .

[Renegade133]

i dont understand this it just seems bat**** crazy a couple of years ago no company would of bothered and now developers are saying ok we are going to try and fix this and people are getting ****ty it just boggles the mind im a fan of bioware because they produce what i like in terms of gameplay + story while i did feel a little let down in ME3 i was like ok........ but still its probably one of my fav games ever produced

[poerksen]

Found this comment on the consumerist's website and it is regarding EA winning the Golden Poo award. Anyway it made me laugh.
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Traditionally, the Poo has been delivered on its little red pillow. But this year, we'll give EA three different color options for its pillow, though in the end it's still the same old Poo."

Why not send the poo first, then make them get the pillow as tangible DLC? Charge them for it, too!
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[Sarah Knight]

VigorosoAlloy16 wrote...

I truely don't hate the ending. I just was mad that all the time I took customizing my universe of mass effect was completely ignored in the last 20 or so minutes of the game where it should be incorporated most. I would have been fine with THIS ending if it actually put in all of the actions we chose in the first games. I also don't like how Shepard is not himself unless of course he is indoctrinated. If they can explain the ending and incorporate all of our actions in the previous game I will be very pleased. Right now a lot of different people have different theories as to what happened at the end of the game and I would like to know if any of them are right or if none of them are right.

understandable honestly i do agree with that but All in all i think it was Good  to be honest  only thing i didn't like was the armor Set up with what they did  in Me2 and ME3  i don't like that armor  set up costs more than what you would  paying for a whole set to be honest.

[poerksen]

Found this comment on the consumerist's website and it is regarding EA winning the Golden Poo award. Anyway it made me laugh.
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Traditionally, the Poo has been delivered on its little red pillow. But this year, we'll give EA three different color options for its pillow, though in the end it's still the same old Poo."

Why not send the poo first, then make them get the pillow as tangible DLC? Charge them for it, too!
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[ParagonGreg]

The extended cut is not for the fans. It's for the press. It's PR. If it's good, then better for me. If it's bad, the stories are already written: "BioWare gives fans what they want while maintaining integrity."

That is my personal version of cautiously optimistic.

On a related note, does anybody know of a good sci-fi action RPG?

Still, it's better than nothing.  Although, I'm still undecided if the endings should be changed or not.  Some people liked the original endings, and I see no reason why their ending should be ruined because I didn't like mine.

Modifié par ParagonGreg, 07 avril 2012 - 03:09 .

[Menethra]

ParagonGreg wrote...

The extended cut is not for the fans. It's for the press. It's PR. If it's good, that better for me. If it's bad, the stories are already written: "BioWare gives fans what they want while maintaining integrity."

That is my personal version of cautiously optimistic.

On a related note, does anybody know of a good sci-fi action RPG?

This pretty much sums it up, a PR stunt nothing more.

[VigorosoAlloy16]

Add me on XBL for some ME3 multiplayer gametag: VigorosoAlloy16

[Sarah Knight]

poerksen wrote...

Found this comment on the consumerist's website and it is regarding EA winning the Golden Poo award. Anyway it made me laugh.
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Traditionally, the Poo has been delivered on its little red pillow. But this year, we'll give EA three different color options for its pillow, though in the end it's still the same old Poo."

Why not send the poo first, then make them get the pillow as tangible DLC? Charge them for it, too!
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Just because you didn't  get your way doesn't mean you  can blame it  Entirely on EA and bioware  both are Good Companies that make   Great Games who cares if it didn't go your way   or any one elses  the point is to have fun  enjoy the ride or don't play/buy it  at all  or do what most do "listen to friends and other people on feed back about the game then buy it"   but Just because you found this "Lame retarded reward  Ceremony" doesn't mean that ea and bioware doesn't put their customers first when they do but they also  put the other fans that  actualy "liked the ending" in other words a Poll   and more than likely their is more than you complainers  out their that  actually "likes or is okay with it or even  LOVES it"  i'm just saying this  comment you posted isn't worth seeing or even being on here and directed at EA's  and bioware reputation  they  Make their own  Decisions also upon listenting to its consumers  as well  they wouldn't Release the Extended DLC if they never Cared about us  they wouldn't bother working or fixing this game   more than likely the entire bioware and ea staff could just  be with their families and Relax do the things that they themselves would rather enjoy than to be pestured and bothered about people  Damaging the  rep.
if you don't Like it  Just get rid of your copy and remove your account and never buy and ea/bioware game like so many people "threatened" to do.

[Pockydon]

As long as i can give the star child the finger i'll be fine...

But seriously, thank you bioware! If this is what we were hoping for than it will be great!

[ramnozack]

You don't need to change the endings to have clarification. IT was a perfectly good way to go with the game. Why are you doing this to your fans? Why do you guys insist on being the next George Lucas? WHY. WHY!!!! All I'm asking you guys is to please just continue on with the ending. Please, I'm begging you, don't ruin this game for me please.

[Orkney11]

Sarah Knight,

You have no clue. Google some info on EA, and you'll find a lot of disturbing stuff. They are notorious for treating their employees like trash, and notorious for ruining small game developers that they buy.

Modifié par Orkney11, 07 avril 2012 - 03:19 .

[Sero303]

Orkney11 wrote...


Sarah Knight,

You have no clue. Google some info on EA, and you'll find a lot of disturbing stuff. They are notorious for treating their employees like trash, and notorious for ruining small game developers that they buy.

Just look at "Command & Conquer 4: Tiberium Twilight" ( or whatever they call that trash ) by EA ...

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

It's... nice that the team is providing an extension, but you see, we don't want more horribleness. We want something good. If you give us more bad, we won't be happy no matter how much of it you give us.

LegendaryBlade wrote...

"We believe in our team's artistic integrity"

There's that word again. I don't think it means what you think it means.

QFT

LohnPondai wrote...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

You
guys dont realize they dont care? We gave them feedback and they will
just do what they want/planned. They'll never admit there is something
wrong.

You can complain all you want but they really couldnt care
less. If you really want them to LISTEN id urge you to turn in your
copy of ME3 like i did. I bet if they suddenly had 500K returned copies
we would have a decent ending in a short time.

I just hope that
this hubris they are showing will be their downfall. Im done with BW and
i really hope their attitude and their management of this fiasco will
have an answer in the revenues of their following releases.

You can't return an opened and used copy of a game. If you're talking about trading in, that doesn't hurt their business.

Modifié par Tony_Knightcrawler, 07 avril 2012 - 03:25 .

[Sarah Knight]

Sero303 wrote...

Orkney11 wrote...


Sarah Knight,

You have no clue. Google some info on EA, and you'll find a lot of disturbing stuff. They are notorious for treating their employees like trash, and notorious for ruining small game developers that they buy.

Just look at "Command & Conquer 4: Tiberium Twilight" ( or whatever they call that trash ) by EA ...

My  Statement was primarily  towards Bioware not  EA  and yes i do know   what EA has been doing to its customers and employees and i do agree on that principle but any  insult to biowares integrity  i wont  listen unless  they have dirty little facts that are true like  EA does. Sorry i know that i should of  Worded that correctly so it was my fault for this Misconsception my older Sister quit from Ea and left a hate message to her boss   with how they treated her and i honestly would of done the same thing or did how Johnny gat did it in Sr1 when you blow up Kingdom come records twice

[N11 0RD0]

Ryokun1989 wrote...

Game design is not a restaurant! You did not 'order a Mass Effect 3, with such and so ending'! This is exactly the weird kind of entitlement people berate you for!
It is also not a commission! You're paying for a finished product. In fact, you're paying VERY LITTLE for what is years of the developers' life!

Exactly! No one ever hears of a writer of a vast year spanning series asking readers "so, what do you want to happen in the next book?" Artists have an idea of the finnished product long before the meda gets ahold of it. The fact of the matter is that, like you said, you can't "order a Mass Effect with such and so ending."

[poerksen]

Sarah Knight wrote...

poerksen wrote...

Found this comment on the consumerist's website and it is regarding EA winning the Golden Poo award. Anyway it made me laugh.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Traditionally, the Poo has been delivered on its little red pillow. But this year, we'll give EA three different color options for its pillow, though in the end it's still the same old Poo."

Why not send the poo first, then make them get the pillow as tangible DLC? Charge them for it, too!
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Just because you didn't  get your way doesn't mean you  can blame it  Entirely on EA and bioware  both are Good Companies that make   Great Games who cares if it didn't go your way   or any one elses  the point is to have fun  enjoy the ride or don't play/buy it  at all  or do what most do "listen to friends and other people on feed back about the game then buy it"   but Just because you found this "Lame retarded reward  Ceremony" doesn't mean that ea and bioware doesn't put their customers first when they do but they also  put the other fans that  actualy "liked the ending" in other words a Poll   and more than likely their is more than you complainers  out their that  actually "likes or is okay with it or even  LOVES it"  i'm just saying this  comment you posted isn't worth seeing or even being on here and directed at EA's  and bioware reputation  they  Make their own  Decisions also upon listenting to its consumers  as well  they wouldn't Release the Extended DLC if they never Cared about us  they wouldn't bother working or fixing this game   more than likely the entire bioware and ea staff could just  be with their families and Relax do the things that they themselves would rather enjoy than to be pestured and bothered about people  Damaging the  rep.
if you don't Like it  Just get rid of your copy and remove your account and never buy and ea/bioware game like so many people "threatened" to do.

Problem is, I already bought the game based on false advertising and bogus reviews put up by IGN and gamespot. After playing the game myself, I honestly do not understand the reviewers. The game is clearly inferior in almost every aspect compared to especially ME2, but also ME1. Combat is a little smoother, but that is it. I will never trust another offical review site such as IGN or gamespot. Consumer reviews from now on.

I did not ruin bioware's reputation, they did that themselves and probably with help from EA.
I do not know what happened internally in bioware for them to release a game that clearly does not deliver on what they've promised through advertising and official statements made by the bioware, so yeah I can blame it entirely on them.

So, only people who have something positive to say should be able to post on these forums ? :S If I am an unsatisfied customer I should just leave the forums? That is BS I am here, because I am waiting to see what they will do to remedy the catastrophy that is ME3s ending. If it does not get fixed, then I will not buy anymore of their products and I will remove my account. I promise you that. Until then, I am staying and I will continue to speak my mind, especially in the light of how bioware has handled the situation and lied to its fans, who paid good money for a game on false premises.

If bioware has been listening to their customers, as you say, then they would not release an extended DLC(extra clarification etc.), because that is not what people have been asking for. This is a PR stunt, it does not fix any of the many issues with the game.

[Orkney11]

Interesting how so many people can't wrap their minds around the simple fact that a corporation is not an artist. It's a COR-PO-RA-TI-ON. And when it comes to the case "corporation vs. its consumer" there is no room for such notions as "artistic integrity." There is business, and only business. And this is exactly why Bioware is haggling now -- because they can't afford to have their business be ruined. Don't get fooled -- they know the numbers, they know what's at stake. I repeat: BU-SI-NESS.

Modifié par Orkney11, 07 avril 2012 - 04:11 .

[Rafe34]

Sarah Knight wrote...
Just because you didn't  get your way doesn't mean you  can blame it  Entirely on EA and bioware  both are Good Companies that make   Great Games 

Stopped reading there. Just lol. No wonder EA/Bioware can afford to do things like they did with ME3, with attitudes like this.

[Sarah Knight]

poerksen wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

poerksen wrote...

Found this comment on the consumerist's website and it is regarding EA winning the Golden Poo award. Anyway it made me laugh.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Traditionally, the Poo has been delivered on its little red pillow. But this year, we'll give EA three different color options for its pillow, though in the end it's still the same old Poo."

Why not send the poo first, then make them get the pillow as tangible DLC? Charge them for it, too!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just because you didn't  get your way doesn't mean you  can blame it  Entirely on EA and bioware  both are Good Companies that make   Great Games who cares if it didn't go your way   or any one elses  the point is to have fun  enjoy the ride or don't play/buy it  at all  or do what most do "listen to friends and other people on feed back about the game then buy it"   but Just because you found this "Lame retarded reward  Ceremony" doesn't mean that ea and bioware doesn't put their customers first when they do but they also  put the other fans that  actualy "liked the ending" in other words a Poll   and more than likely their is more than you complainers  out their that  actually "likes or is okay with it or even  LOVES it"  i'm just saying this  comment you posted isn't worth seeing or even being on here and directed at EA's  and bioware reputation  they  Make their own  Decisions also upon listenting to its consumers  as well  they wouldn't Release the Extended DLC if they never Cared about us  they wouldn't bother working or fixing this game   more than likely the entire bioware and ea staff could just  be with their families and Relax do the things that they themselves would rather enjoy than to be pestured and bothered about people  Damaging the  rep.
if you don't Like it  Just get rid of your copy and remove your account and never buy and ea/bioware game like so many people "threatened" to do.

Problem is, I already bought the game based on false advertising and bogus reviews put up by IGN and gamespot. After playing the game myself, I honestly do not understand the reviewers. The game is clearly inferior in almost every aspect compared to especially ME2, but also ME1. Combat is a little smoother, but that is it. I will never trust another offical review site such as IGN or gamespot. Consumer reviews from now on.

I did not ruin bioware's reputation, they did that themselves and probably with help from EA.
I do not know what happened internally in bioware for them to release a game that clearly does not deliver on what they've promised through advertising and official statements made by the bioware, so yeah I can blame it entirely on them.

So, only people who have something positive to say should be able to post on these forums ? :S If I am an unsatisfied customer I should just leave the forums? That is BS I am here, because I am waiting to see what they will do to remedy the catastrophy that is ME3s ending. If it does not get fixed, then I will not buy anymore of their products and I will remove my account. I promise you that. Until then, I am staying and I will continue to speak my mind, especially in the light of how bioware has handled the situation and lied to its fans, who paid good money for a game on false premises.

If bioware has been listening to their customers, as you say, then they would not release an extended DLC(extra clarification etc.), because that is not what people have been asking for. This is a PR stunt, it does not fix any of the many issues with the game.

No no  not What i am Saying Sweety i'm Just saying that  i  understand the upset Community's  Side but its not biowares Fault  if you did your research on EA  they have a very AWEFUL reputation with every Game company that they bought out   EA's  downfall was how they Treat their customers and how they "design games"  hell Look at  Command and conquer 4  that game  was crappy as hell  that was made by  EA Soley  if bioware did  make a mistake  That was Going into bussiness with EA  and Letting EA handle everything other than  Bioware's own staff.
but they are Releasing   an extended DLC  for the  SP   that wont be out till the Summer i'm just stating  hold  what any one Does Till  bioware releases that Dlc. Sorry if i was Rude or mean in this convo  i am pregnant and i tend to have moodswings  i need to control those better so i'm sorry for how i am  talking here in the forums to those i did upset/hurt

[Sarah Knight]

Rafe34 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...
Just because you didn't  get your way doesn't mean you  can blame it  Entirely on EA and bioware  both are Good Companies that make   Great Games 

Stopped reading there. Just lol. No wonder EA/Bioware can afford to do things like they did with ME3, with attitudes like this.

Yea Yea laugh it off  i made the mistake of saying "EA" was good when i remembered my sister actually Quitting  because of how they Treated her   bioware tho is  if its any ones fault that you guys  are so upset at the ending its EA if you GOOGLE  the EA's  "Rep"  you'd see that  they have more of a bad rep than any one else currently in gaming wise.