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[Crom12]

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

good luck, i not go to play the game in the future, the ME Universe is dead for me, thanks.

For me too!

[Badnews_Bill]

I enjoyed ME1 and ME2 and feel ripped off by ME3. Because of this announcement I will not be purchasing anything from Bioware or EA games again. While they make up excuses for this poor ending ,EA stock continues to plummet and i hope the employees find solace in the knowledge that they saved the artistic merit of their game while they wait in line for their unemployment checks. It's too bad they refused to create a positive ending.

[Orkney11]

Sarah Knight wrote...

Orkney11 wrote...

Sarah Knight,

if I had some respect for you, it vanished after that last post. There is no point in talking to a person after she calls you an idiot.

Here two interesting pieces of information for yall:

1) EA' stock value has been in decline for months, and the ending controversy just added to that.
2) I am Russian, which gives me access to the russian communities on Facebook and other websites. And as far as I can see, the vast majority of russian gamers hates the ME3 ending.

That should give you a clue about how serious this movement is. This is by far not just a bunch of "idiots" ranting on this forum.

i apologize for my actions Ork  i know it was Rude of me to call you an idiot and all the things i have called you through out the forum  i just hate it when i have these mood swings its primarly why i am acting that way i'm basically trying to control them right now  with my Fiance  but i do apologize Sincerely for how i treated you and Gatt  and any one else that i flamed out of my mood swings  i'll Try to control them from now on >_<  and i see i am russian myself but hard to text it to be honest with an english keyboard lol...  really hate them >_< but yea and i see what you meant i take back what i said  in arguing with you.

Ok, we're good, no worries

[Sarah Knight]

LohnPondai wrote...

venom56321489 wrote...

To me they lost RPG feel and went for more cod style.

1. less exploration on citadel (smaller areas).
2. Only 1 place to explore citadel
3. no vehicles no mako, hammerhead, or flying car (lair of shadow broker-which lots of fans loved)
4. Like DA2 more straight forward, felt funneled in one direction.
5. Love interests A, B, C, or fade to black, or nothing at all.
6. just felt rushed, they wanted to move on, and going for new audience.
7. Multiplayer- some like it but for me I wanted a Mass Effect rpg and they do not have multiplayer

Bioware just isnt making games to my taste these days. Off to better things. There are other RPG's Bioware and EA are not the only ones. Their is life outside Bioware.

Yup. I think CDProjekt took the banner that Bioware dropped. Good RPGs in wich your decisions matter, no COD clones with rushed, nonsensical endings.

I dont care at all about the Extended Cut since i no longer own the game (yup, Amazon EU will take back your copies, even if they have been opened). Had they answered earlier, had they had the decency to admit the huge lies they fed us during game promotion... i may had remained a loyal fan. But i think its too late. There are other companies, other games... I once loved Bioware. Own a lot of their games and had a blast playing KOTOR, Dragon Age (my fav) and the earlies ME titles. But really, after DA: Origins, SWTOR and now this they really show they have changed. They can go on releasing rushed games but just dont count on my money.

 no COD clones with rushed, nonsensical endings.

COD 1 and 2 both  Sucked  For both Multiplayer and Ending   Look at the Modders Does Treyach and that other company do anything about it? No they don't   Not all Game companies are perfect No one is  regardless of the way you think about it  Also  every Cod that has   MP  guarantee you 1-1000 people  are Modding or using some form of disadvantage  to non cheating Consumers  Bioware is doing  everything that they can  Who cares that people don't get their way because bioware  wants what they   See in their Dev team if they never cared why would they put out the extended  DLC To explain their  Teams artistic View? When i could List So many things that bioware could do  instead of Appeasing the  "upset consumer side" but they  are doing the best they can the  are not  a car company that will Recall every mass effect 3 title  Just because you guys don't like it a good Majority Likes it  or is okay with it a Small Majority "those that complain and leave both on forums and  "PSN PC XBL"  always cry wolf because it didn't go their way  Mass effect Was never Meant to be perfect  Every Game has Flaws even COD  does  with its Modding community that Treyach and the others don't  do anything about  Bioware is solely acting on the modders that we snitch on What other game company  would do that? none that i've known or seen  the ones i've played on are like oh yea good job modder you get a cookie for pissing off our consumers.

The point is  No Company is perfect  Not Ea Not bioware Not   Teyarch  NO ONE  IS PERFECT  So Stop your Crying  and Just Live with it or not Buy another  Bioware/ea Game  you'd Get Allot of backlash from the Community   That Actually Likes or  "loves it" like i do   Mass effect was mainly to  help people Relax have fun  and spend time with their online friends and community  1-2 wasn't it was morely to explain the ME unniverse  but in the end it was still to relax and have fun it wasn't intended to Insult its community and fanbase    The reason why   The Ending wasn't  the way that you guys wanted is because  Some "pendajo" During PR  about the Game   exploited  knowing every detail enough to talk  To the reporters News and what not about it that Ruined it for the rest of the community that "DOES NOT" want   to know the ending   So bioware  i am Assuming Changed the Ending at Last Minute "hence why it was never released in December 2011" when it was  Determined  to come out then  The team them selves  can Change the coding "they don't have the  Game made right away  even if you think they do they don't till 2-4months Prior to the release" Date or before if they decide to keep it and make last minute adjustments if need be .
but you guys Can Insult bioware ea all you want but you  Guys Should know that as i stated No one is perfect   not me not you not any one  you may believe you guys are that you could of done the ending better  Try to do it on their budget their  Artistic minds  Guaranteed non of you can  it takes time and money to do what they do insulting them will only Cause the "upset side" more pain and drama   and more than likely   them Leaving as you guys are solely doing.

[Sarah Knight]

Orkney11 wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Orkney11 wrote...

Sarah Knight,

if I had some respect for you, it vanished after that last post. There is no point in talking to a person after she calls you an idiot.

Here two interesting pieces of information for yall:

1) EA' stock value has been in decline for months, and the ending controversy just added to that.
2) I am Russian, which gives me access to the russian communities on Facebook and other websites. And as far as I can see, the vast majority of russian gamers hates the ME3 ending.

That should give you a clue about how serious this movement is. This is by far not just a bunch of "idiots" ranting on this forum.

i apologize for my actions Ork  i know it was Rude of me to call you an idiot and all the things i have called you through out the forum  i just hate it when i have these mood swings its primarly why i am acting that way i'm basically trying to control them right now  with my Fiance  but i do apologize Sincerely for how i treated you and Gatt  and any one else that i flamed out of my mood swings  i'll Try to control them from now on >_<  and i see i am russian myself but hard to text it to be honest with an english keyboard lol...  really hate them >_< but yea and i see what you meant i take back what i said  in arguing with you.

Ok, we're good, no worries

if you wish to be friends  Pop the invite or i will idm really

[PaxtonFetel]

Make a good epic reasonable logical ending. And get your money DLC like.
Everybody is happy everyone is happy.
Call of Duty became the laughingstock with only 8 part.
You can safely work on new parts ..

[Blazerer]

Sarah Knight wrote...

LohnPondai wrote...

venom56321489 wrote...

To me they lost RPG feel and went for more cod style.

1. less exploration on citadel (smaller areas).
2. Only 1 place to explore citadel
3. no vehicles no mako, hammerhead, or flying car (lair of shadow broker-which lots of fans loved)
4. Like DA2 more straight forward, felt funneled in one direction.
5. Love interests A, B, C, or fade to black, or nothing at all.
6. just felt rushed, they wanted to move on, and going for new audience.
7. Multiplayer- some like it but for me I wanted a Mass Effect rpg and they do not have multiplayer

Bioware just isnt making games to my taste these days. Off to better things. There are other RPG's Bioware and EA are not the only ones. Their is life outside Bioware.

Yup. I think CDProjekt took the banner that Bioware dropped. Good RPGs in wich your decisions matter, no COD clones with rushed, nonsensical endings.

I dont care at all about the Extended Cut since i no longer own the game (yup, Amazon EU will take back your copies, even if they have been opened). Had they answered earlier, had they had the decency to admit the huge lies they fed us during game promotion... i may had remained a loyal fan. But i think its too late. There are other companies, other games... I once loved Bioware. Own a lot of their games and had a blast playing KOTOR, Dragon Age (my fav) and the earlies ME titles. But really, after DA: Origins, SWTOR and now this they really show they have changed. They can go on releasing rushed games but just dont count on my money.

 no COD clones with rushed, nonsensical endings.

COD 1 and 2 both  Sucked  For both Multiplayer and Ending   Look at the Modders Does Treyach and that other company do anything about it? No they don't   Not all Game companies are perfect No one is  regardless of the way you think about it  Also  every Cod that has   MP  guarantee you 1-1000 people  are Modding or using some form of disadvantage  to non cheating Consumers  Bioware is doing  everything that they can  Who cares that people don't get their way because bioware  wants what they   See in their Dev team if they never cared why would they put out the extended  DLC To explain their  Teams artistic View? When i could List So many things that bioware could do  instead of Appeasing the  "upset consumer side" but they  are doing the best they can the  are not  a car company that will Recall every mass effect 3 title  Just because you guys don't like it a good Majority Likes it  or is okay with it a Small Majority "those that complain and leave both on forums and  "PSN PC XBL"  always cry wolf because it didn't go their way  Mass effect Was never Meant to be perfect  Every Game has Flaws even COD  does  with its Modding community that Treyach and the others don't  do anything about  Bioware is solely acting on the modders that we snitch on What other game company  would do that? none that i've known or seen  the ones i've played on are like oh yea good job modder you get a cookie for pissing off our consumers.

The point is  No Company is perfect  Not Ea Not bioware Not   Teyarch  NO ONE  IS PERFECT  So Stop your Crying  and Just Live with it or not Buy another  Bioware/ea Game  you'd Get Allot of backlash from the Community   That Actually Likes or  "loves it" like i do   Mass effect was mainly to  help people Relax have fun  and spend time with their online friends and community  1-2 wasn't it was morely to explain the ME unniverse  but in the end it was still to relax and have fun it wasn't intended to Insult its community and fanbase    The reason why   The Ending wasn't  the way that you guys wanted is because  Some "pendajo" During PR  about the Game   exploited  knowing every detail enough to talk  To the reporters News and what not about it that Ruined it for the rest of the community that "DOES NOT" want   to know the ending   So bioware  i am Assuming Changed the Ending at Last Minute "hence why it was never released in December 2011" when it was  Determined  to come out then  The team them selves  can Change the coding "they don't have the  Game made right away  even if you think they do they don't till 2-4months Prior to the release" Date or before if they decide to keep it and make last minute adjustments if need be .
but you guys Can Insult bioware ea all you want but you  Guys Should know that as i stated No one is perfect   not me not you not any one  you may believe you guys are that you could of done the ending better  Try to do it on their budget their  Artistic minds  Guaranteed non of you can  it takes time and money to do what they do insulting them will only Cause the "upset side" more pain and drama   and more than likely   them Leaving as you guys are solely doing.

'not perfect' sure, is that an explanation for doing false promises, lieing to your loyal fans, continueing to spout the bull**** that your really support this ending? no, it isn't.

also 'So bioware  i am Assuming Changed the Ending at Last Minute "hence why it was never released in December 2011'
What the hell are you talking about? why would they changed an ending they deemed perfect, and change it into something incomprehensible full of plotholes. not to mention they would persist in supporting that rushed version...no I don't buy that.

Bioware had time after time again to apologize, admit they made a mistake and simply fixed it. sells would have vastly increased as it would show Bioware would actually LISTEN and RESPECT their fanbase, something they've clearly shown they don't.

Modifié par Blazerer, 07 avril 2012 - 06:45 .

[Sarah Knight]

PaxtonFetel wrote...

Make a good epic reasonable logical ending. And get your money DLC like.
Everybody is happy everyone is happy.
Call of Duty became the laughingstock with only 8 part.
You can safely work on new parts ..

Mm why does your user ring a bell you named it after that psychotic lunatic   in F.E.A.R Yea?
And yes i agree but their are some consumers that don't want  Bioware to change it because that side"includng me"

Liked it  which is probably more than the upset side of the community "not saying i dislike them or anything" i'm just stating that Regardless of the upset side some of us don't want it to change  but Bioware is doing the right thing for  their fanbase i just hope that they do it right because i'm tired of seeing the upset  community Attack Ea and Bioware Soley  becaus they dislike the ending...
As for Cod yes  i do agree thats way Cod MW1 and 2 and possibly 3 Failed  in terms of appeasing the upset side "my self included" due to how they Treat their fans over their "modding"  community   Treyarch and that other company idk what they call em selves nor care to  ends up  "patting and rewarding the modders"   for their work on pissing off their consumers Bioware Does whats right for both fans and company i've been a proud purchaser of their merch for Various of games   that i loved Dragon age and ME included  i didn't like EA's C&C 4 tiberiurm twilight ir W/e they called it  but don't get me wrong  Ea Did make  good games they just need to listen More to their fans and do what we want and in turn they'll make a bigger profit and not be in this downhil slump as they have been for the past  decade or so.

[PaxtonFetel]

summarize: the main problem ME3 - it's players. And so in general, the game - a masterpiece, and nothing here can not be helped.

[Morty Smith]

With all due respect.

I still don´t see how more options/endings would diminish the current "artistic integrity" that you so greatly fear to lose, Bioware. Stand up to your own words and don´t cover behind those put in your mouths.

[Sarah Knight]

Blazerer wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

LohnPondai wrote...

venom56321489 wrote...

To me they lost RPG feel and went for more cod style.

1. less exploration on citadel (smaller areas).
2. Only 1 place to explore citadel
3. no vehicles no mako, hammerhead, or flying car (lair of shadow broker-which lots of fans loved)
4. Like DA2 more straight forward, felt funneled in one direction.
5. Love interests A, B, C, or fade to black, or nothing at all.
6. just felt rushed, they wanted to move on, and going for new audience.
7. Multiplayer- some like it but for me I wanted a Mass Effect rpg and they do not have multiplayer

Bioware just isnt making games to my taste these days. Off to better things. There are other RPG's Bioware and EA are not the only ones. Their is life outside Bioware.

Yup. I think CDProjekt took the banner that Bioware dropped. Good RPGs in wich your decisions matter, no COD clones with rushed, nonsensical endings.

I dont care at all about the Extended Cut since i no longer own the game (yup, Amazon EU will take back your copies, even if they have been opened). Had they answered earlier, had they had the decency to admit the huge lies they fed us during game promotion... i may had remained a loyal fan. But i think its too late. There are other companies, other games... I once loved Bioware. Own a lot of their games and had a blast playing KOTOR, Dragon Age (my fav) and the earlies ME titles. But really, after DA: Origins, SWTOR and now this they really show they have changed. They can go on releasing rushed games but just dont count on my money.

 no COD clones with rushed, nonsensical endings.

COD 1 and 2 both  Sucked  For both Multiplayer and Ending   Look at the Modders Does Treyach and that other company do anything about it? No they don't   Not all Game companies are perfect No one is  regardless of the way you think about it  Also  every Cod that has   MP  guarantee you 1-1000 people  are Modding or using some form of disadvantage  to non cheating Consumers  Bioware is doing  everything that they can  Who cares that people don't get their way because bioware  wants what they   See in their Dev team if they never cared why would they put out the extended  DLC To explain their  Teams artistic View? When i could List So many things that bioware could do  instead of Appeasing the  "upset consumer side" but they  are doing the best they can the  are not  a car company that will Recall every mass effect 3 title  Just because you guys don't like it a good Majority Likes it  or is okay with it a Small Majority "those that complain and leave both on forums and  "PSN PC XBL"  always cry wolf because it didn't go their way  Mass effect Was never Meant to be perfect  Every Game has Flaws even COD  does  with its Modding community that Treyach and the others don't  do anything about  Bioware is solely acting on the modders that we snitch on What other game company  would do that? none that i've known or seen  the ones i've played on are like oh yea good job modder you get a cookie for pissing off our consumers.

The point is  No Company is perfect  Not Ea Not bioware Not   Teyarch  NO ONE  IS PERFECT  So Stop your Crying  and Just Live with it or not Buy another  Bioware/ea Game  you'd Get Allot of backlash from the Community   That Actually Likes or  "loves it" like i do   Mass effect was mainly to  help people Relax have fun  and spend time with their online friends and community  1-2 wasn't it was morely to explain the ME unniverse  but in the end it was still to relax and have fun it wasn't intended to Insult its community and fanbase    The reason why   The Ending wasn't  the way that you guys wanted is because  Some "pendajo" During PR  about the Game   exploited  knowing every detail enough to talk  To the reporters News and what not about it that Ruined it for the rest of the community that "DOES NOT" want   to know the ending   So bioware  i am Assuming Changed the Ending at Last Minute "hence why it was never released in December 2011" when it was  Determined  to come out then  The team them selves  can Change the coding "they don't have the  Game made right away  even if you think they do they don't till 2-4months Prior to the release" Date or before if they decide to keep it and make last minute adjustments if need be .
but you guys Can Insult bioware ea all you want but you  Guys Should know that as i stated No one is perfect   not me not you not any one  you may believe you guys are that you could of done the ending better  Try to do it on their budget their  Artistic minds  Guaranteed non of you can  it takes time and money to do what they do insulting them will only Cause the "upset side" more pain and drama   and more than likely   them Leaving as you guys are solely doing.

'not perfect' sure, is that an explanation for doing false promises, lieing to your loyal fans, continueing to spout the bull**** that your really support this ending? no, it isn't.

also 'So bioware  i am Assuming Changed the Ending at Last Minute "hence why it was never released in December 2011'
What the hell are you talking about? why would they changed an ending they deemed perfect, and change it into something incomprehensible full of plotholes. not to mention they would persist in supporting that rushed version...no I don't buy that.

Bioware had time after time again to apologize, admit they made a mistake and simply fixed it. sells would have vastly increased as it would show Bioware would actually LISTEN and RESPECT their fanbase, something they've clearly shown they don't.

As i stated  bioware i  Assume changed it because of that person who "leaked" the ending  No game that i've known and  watched     on G4 Spike etc  has ever  "leaked" the ending    they wanted to appease the people who did not want their game Spoiled  with them knowing about the "ENDING" that you guys are soo upset about  i understand why you guys are upset so no need to Cuss  or jump down my throat just because i stated my opinion and what i've seen through out  my family that works with Bioware and EA  as well as 3d Realms  but the point is  its true that no one is perfect  every one Has  problems and flaws of their own even Miltary families Presidents doctors  police   and many others  even i admit i'm not perfect  Hell  i snapped at two people because they wer backlashing bioware and EA just like you are but i try not to snap back regardless of my moodswings.


   Bioware had time after time again to apologize, admit they made a mistake and simply fixed it. sells would have vastly increased as it would show Bioware would actually LISTEN and RESPECT their fanbase, something they've clearly shown they don't.



how can you prove that really? its next to impossible that Sales would improve because of what they stated.
Look at battlefield 3   Ea is listening to its fans  on bringing back their weapons  that   a Majority  had "polls"  on what weapon to bring back  Like what bioware did for replica's from ME3  and 1 and 2
Not to mention that EA also brought back a few of its older Maps and refurbished them with better graphics in Battle field 3 if they never Listened you guys  Crying because the ending didn't go the way you do then why would they "Relase the extended cut" for you guys if they never listened or cared? their not doing it for profits their doing to PLEASE the upset community without upsetting those that  Love the game and see their point on the indcotrination theory  and the star child/gazer  the thing is their doing it  for you guys so don't play the "they don't care or listen/respect" their fan base card because they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys .
but they  rather  Work their fingers to the bone just please you guys  and make you guy's happy regardless  of the people who actually do like the game.

[reeot]

Sarah Knight wrote...

COD 1 and 2 both  Sucked  For both Multiplayer and Ending   Look at the Modders Does Treyach and that other company do anything about it? No they don't   Not all Game companies are perfect No one is  regardless of the way you think about it  Also  every Cod that has   MP  guarantee you 1-1000 people  are Modding or using some form of disadvantage  to non cheating Consumers

So are you talking abou CoD 1 &2 or about CoD MW 1 &2 (Developer: Infinity Ward )?
At least Modern Warefare had an excellent Multiplayer part. Never bought MW2.

Sarah Knight wrote...

Bioware is doing  everything that they can  Who cares that people don't get their way because bioware  wants what they   See in their Dev team if they never cared why would they put out the extended  DLC To explain their  Teams artistic View? When i could List So many things that bioware could do  instead of Appeasing the  "upset consumer side" but they  are doing the best they can the  are not  a car company that will Recall every mass effect 3 title  Just because you guys don't like it a good Majority Likes it  or is okay with it a Small Majority "those that complain and leave both on forums and  "PSN PC XBL"  always cry wolf because it didn't go their way  Mass effect Was never Meant to be perfect  Every Game has Flaws even COD  does  with its Modding community that Treyach and the others don't  do anything about  Bioware is solely acting on the modders that we snitch on What other game company  would do that? none that i've known or seen  the ones i've played on are like oh yea good job modder you get a cookie for pissing off our consumers.

Artistic View, Vision, Integrity.. or whatever you call itm is fine if it works.
But in an interactive media like videogames are... in special mass effect where you make decisions... it works different. There are different outcomes. And even if they don't divide to much in ME1 and 2 they should in the last game of the trilogy. What we got is one outcome with questions over questions instead of answers.

After all we don't know what this "Extented Cut DLC" contains exactly. And thats their Ace.
People can't be taken seriously if they complain about things they don't know.
Since im pessimistic i go along with the worst case scenario:

They listened to us for 1 minute and ignored the other 29 minutes of our complaints.
So they adress just the plotholes and don't remove the missplaced ending which simply don't fits to the Mass Effect franchise. (Great video about that topic) This solution is also the cheapest out of all possibilities... well beside they don't react at the entitled fanrage at all. This has nothing to do with defending their articstic visions.

Sarah Knight wrote...

The point is  No Company is perfect  Not Ea Not bioware Not   Teyarch  NO ONE  IS PERFECT

You name it. No one is. But there are people out there who can admit it. Others hide behind their artistic integrity.

Sarah Knight wrote...

The reason why   The Ending wasn't  the way that you guys wanted is because  Some "pendajo" During PR  about the Game   exploited  knowing every detail enough to talk  To the reporters News and what not about it that Ruined it for the rest of the community that "DOES NOT" want   to know the ending   So bioware  i am Assuming Changed the Ending at Last Minute "hence why it was never released in December 2011" when it was  Determined  to come out then  The team them selves  can Change the coding "they don't have the  Game made right away  even if you think they do they don't till 2-4months Prior to the release" Date or before if they decide to keep it and make last minute adjustments if need be .

Presumptions, presumptions, presumptions. My speculation why they had delayed ME 3 was because of the Mulitplayer. But this doesn't matter right now.

To abandon a great concept (Dark energy by Drew Karpyshyn) just because some dude spoilered it, ain't really clever. Even less if you consider the result of it: see ME3 Ending.

And again: The backlash is because we, the fans (some may call us a minority), care about the franchise.
I love BioWare and their games, as you see under my avatar. And i love Mass Effect. This is why I stand up and voice my opinion.

[PaxtonFetel]

There is one important point. Trust. My first register on this forum is the 2009 code and activate the DLC Asteroid X57.
I just loved the game and its creators without reservations.
I even forgot the password to the account (not yet an origin).
Now a new game BioWare will occur whether the issue is not deceived me in a few years for the sake of artistic integrity, may be best not to mess with their games?

[Sarah Knight]

reeot wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

COD 1 and 2 both  Sucked  For both Multiplayer and Ending   Look at the Modders Does Treyach and that other company do anything about it? No they don't   Not all Game companies are perfect No one is  regardless of the way you think about it  Also  every Cod that has   MP  guarantee you 1-1000 people  are Modding or using some form of disadvantage  to non cheating Consumers

So are you talking abou CoD 1 &2 or about CoD MW 1 &2 (Developer: Infinity Ward )?
At least Modern Warefare had an excellent Multiplayer part. Never bought MW2.

Sarah Knight wrote...

Bioware is doing  everything that they can  Who cares that people don't get their way because bioware  wants what they   See in their Dev team if they never cared why would they put out the extended  DLC To explain their  Teams artistic View? When i could List So many things that bioware could do  instead of Appeasing the  "upset consumer side" but they  are doing the best they can the  are not  a car company that will Recall every mass effect 3 title  Just because you guys don't like it a good Majority Likes it  or is okay with it a Small Majority "those that complain and leave both on forums and  "PSN PC XBL"  always cry wolf because it didn't go their way  Mass effect Was never Meant to be perfect  Every Game has Flaws even COD  does  with its Modding community that Treyach and the others don't  do anything about  Bioware is solely acting on the modders that we snitch on What other game company  would do that? none that i've known or seen  the ones i've played on are like oh yea good job modder you get a cookie for pissing off our consumers.

Artistic View, Vision, Integrity.. or whatever you call itm is fine if it works.
But in an interactive media like videogames are... in special mass effect where you make decisions... it works different. There are different outcomes. And even if they don't divide to much in ME1 and 2 they should in the last game of the trilogy. What we got is one outcome with questions over questions instead of answers.

After all we don't know what this "Extented Cut DLC" contains exactly. And thats their Ace.
People can't be taken seriously if they complain about things they don't know.
Since im pessimistic i go along with the worst case scenario:

They listened to us for 1 minute and ignored the other 29 minutes of our complaints.
So they adress just the plotholes and don't remove the missplaced ending which simply don't fits to the Mass Effect franchise. (Great video about that topic) This solution is also the cheapest out of all possibilities... well beside they don't react at the entitled fanrage at all. This has nothing to do with defending their articstic visions.

Sarah Knight wrote...

The point is  No Company is perfect  Not Ea Not bioware Not   Teyarch  NO ONE  IS PERFECT

You name it. No one is. But there are people out there who can admit it. Others hide behind their artistic integrity.

Sarah Knight wrote...

The reason why   The Ending wasn't  the way that you guys wanted is because  Some "pendajo" During PR  about the Game   exploited  knowing every detail enough to talk  To the reporters News and what not about it that Ruined it for the rest of the community that "DOES NOT" want   to know the ending   So bioware  i am Assuming Changed the Ending at Last Minute "hence why it was never released in December 2011" when it was  Determined  to come out then  The team them selves  can Change the coding "they don't have the  Game made right away  even if you think they do they don't till 2-4months Prior to the release" Date or before if they decide to keep it and make last minute adjustments if need be .

Presumptions, presumptions, presumptions. My speculation why they had delayed ME 3 was because of the Mulitplayer. But this doesn't matter right now.

To abandon a great concept (Dark energy by Drew Karpyshyn) just because some dude spoilered it, ain't really clever. Even less if you consider the result of it: see ME3 Ending.

And again: The backlash is because we, the fans (some may call us a minority), care about the franchise.
I love BioWare and their games, as you see under my avatar. And i love Mass Effect. This is why I stand up and voice my opinion.

i understand completely  we all are entitled to our opinions  which is reasonable i'm not stating that the upset community is  "wrong or any of that negative backlash" i stated my opinions why they did it in my perspective  Since theirs allot of Rumors and un answered Questions i for one am a bioware and ea Girl  Hands down  but i do hope that they listen to us in the near future  tho Sooner is better than later or if they do continue the "ME" franchise use our  Feedback to improve on it  and find some one who Actuall  "understands the ME unniverse instead of some one using their mind on their own perspective"  and doing as it created  Negative feed back and raging consumers  i hope that this Dlc  calms the upset community  and eases the minds of bioware and ea.

 As for  my Statement about cod 1-2 i was refering to MW1-2   sorry for not clarifying it  just the  Mp was okay in my eyes it could of been better only thing i do on them now a days is Mp since the Modding communtiy went to Mw3  after they learned the coding to it so i've noticed.

Modifié par Sarah Knight, 07 avril 2012 - 07:29 .

[Blazerer]

Sarah Knight wrote...
As i stated  bioware i  Assume changed it because of that person who "leaked" the ending  No game that i've known and  watched     on G4 Spike etc  has ever  "leaked" the ending    they wanted to appease the people who did not want their game Spoiled  with them knowing about the "ENDING" that you guys are soo upset about  i understand why you guys are upset so no need to Cuss  or jump down my throat just because i stated my opinion and what i've seen through out  my family that works with Bioware and EA  as well as 3d Realms  but the point is  its true that no one is perfect  every one Has  problems and flaws of their own even Miltary families Presidents doctors  police   and many others  even i admit i'm not perfect  Hell  i snapped at two people because they wer backlashing bioware and EA just like you are but i try not to snap back regardless of my moodswings.


   Bioware had time after time again to apologize, admit they made a mistake and simply fixed it. sells would have vastly increased as it would show Bioware would actually LISTEN and RESPECT their fanbase, something they've clearly shown they don't.



how can you prove that really? its next to impossible that Sales would improve because of what they stated.
Look at battlefield 3   Ea is listening to its fans  on bringing back their weapons  that   a Majority  had "polls"  on what weapon to bring back  Like what bioware did for replica's from ME3  and 1 and 2
Not to mention that EA also brought back a few of its older Maps and refurbished them with better graphics in Battle field 3 if they never Listened you guys  Crying because the ending didn't go the way you do then why would they "Relase the extended cut" for you guys if they never listened or cared? their not doing it for profits their doing to PLEASE the upset community without upsetting those that  Love the game and see their point on the indcotrination theory  and the star child/gazer  the thing is their doing it  for you guys so don't play the "they don't care or listen/respect" their fan base card because they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys .
but they  rather  Work their fingers to the bone just please you guys  and make you guy's happy regardless  of the people who actually do like the game.

Firstly, do me a favor and start usuing punctuation. I'm not english myself and I know errors can be made, but your piece is just one lone sentence.

Secondly, I know sales would have raised because the rage is ALL OVER THE INTERNET. not to mention the hundreds of posts of people stating they will not buy 3/bought 3 but will not buy 1/2 because their is no reason to with this ending. and that is only the people posting at the forum, imagine all the people who hear from their friends/family/co-workers NOT to buy this game.

Also i'm having a hard time to deciding whether you are an employee in very poor disguise.

their not doing it for profits their doing to PLEASE the upset community without upsetting those that Love the game and see their point on the indcotrination theory  and the star child/gazer
I'm not quite sure because of the broken grammar what you are trying to say...but no, if they would have tried to please us they wouldn't lied to all of their fans time after time again. They would have actually adressed the issue instead of waiting until they had no other choice. I haven't met ANYONE who actually thinks this ending is Bioware worthy, wether they accepted this ending or not all agreed: Bioware can do much, much better. Another thing: The indoctrination Theory is a theory not accepting this ending, and states it is a complete and utter LIE. This would completely topple over the ending and that would mean Bioware had to man up and admit they were wrong, which is apperently less important then 'pleasing' their costumers.

the thing is their doing it  for you guys so don't play the "they don't care or listen/respect" their fan base card because they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys .
I'll just hightlight this again because this actually made me laugh out loud:  don't play the "they don't care or listen/respect" their fan base card  ok...  they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys  aaaaaaand there you end up using not only using a worse excuse than the one you tried to tackle not half a sentence ago, you also made it wrong. IT IS THEIR JOB. do you job wrong, get fired. So why should we applaud and salute them for a job poorly done? simple: we don't. 



in short; all Bioware had to do to stop all this before it all began was
1) say sorry for the ending
2) release a better one for free.

done, no problem on to another great game. but nope, we get this.

[Sarah Knight]

Blazerer wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...
As i stated  bioware i  Assume changed it because of that person who "leaked" the ending  No game that i've known and  watched     on G4 Spike etc  has ever  "leaked" the ending    they wanted to appease the people who did not want their game Spoiled  with them knowing about the "ENDING" that you guys are soo upset about  i understand why you guys are upset so no need to Cuss  or jump down my throat just because i stated my opinion and what i've seen through out  my family that works with Bioware and EA  as well as 3d Realms  but the point is  its true that no one is perfect  every one Has  problems and flaws of their own even Miltary families Presidents doctors  police   and many others  even i admit i'm not perfect  Hell  i snapped at two people because they wer backlashing bioware and EA just like you are but i try not to snap back regardless of my moodswings.


   Bioware had time after time again to apologize, admit they made a mistake and simply fixed it. sells would have vastly increased as it would show Bioware would actually LISTEN and RESPECT their fanbase, something they've clearly shown they don't.



how can you prove that really? its next to impossible that Sales would improve because of what they stated.
Look at battlefield 3   Ea is listening to its fans  on bringing back their weapons  that   a Majority  had "polls"  on what weapon to bring back  Like what bioware did for replica's from ME3  and 1 and 2
Not to mention that EA also brought back a few of its older Maps and refurbished them with better graphics in Battle field 3 if they never Listened you guys  Crying because the ending didn't go the way you do then why would they "Relase the extended cut" for you guys if they never listened or cared? their not doing it for profits their doing to PLEASE the upset community without upsetting those that  Love the game and see their point on the indcotrination theory  and the star child/gazer  the thing is their doing it  for you guys so don't play the "they don't care or listen/respect" their fan base card because they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys .
but they  rather  Work their fingers to the bone just please you guys  and make you guy's happy regardless  of the people who actually do like the game.

Firstly, do me a favor and start usuing punctuation. I'm not english myself and I know errors can be made, but your piece is just one lone sentence.

Secondly, I know sales would have raised because the rage is ALL OVER THE INTERNET. not to mention the hundreds of posts of people stating they will not buy 3/bought 3 but will not buy 1/2 because their is no reason to with this ending. and that is only the people posting at the forum, imagine all the people who hear from their friends/family/co-workers NOT to buy this game.

Also i'm having a hard time to deciding whether you are an employee in very poor disguise.

their not doing it for profits their doing to PLEASE the upset community without upsetting those that Love the game and see their point on the indcotrination theory  and the star child/gazer
I'm not quite sure because of the broken grammar what you are trying to say...but no, if they would have tried to please us they wouldn't lied to all of their fans time after time again. They would have actually adressed the issue instead of waiting until they had no other choice. I haven't met ANYONE who actually thinks this ending is Bioware worthy, wether they accepted this ending or not all agreed: Bioware can do much, much better. Another thing: The indoctrination Theory is a theory not accepting this ending, and states it is a complete and utter LIE. This would completely topple over the ending and that would mean Bioware had to man up and admit they were wrong, which is apperently less important then 'pleasing' their costumers.

the thing is their doing it  for you guys so don't play the "they don't care or listen/respect" their fan base card because they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys .
I'll just hightlight this again because this actually made me laugh out loud:  don't play the "they don't care or listen/respect" their fan base card  ok...  they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys  aaaaaaand there you end up using not only using a worse excuse than the one you tried to tackle not half a sentence ago, you also made it wrong. IT IS THEIR JOB. do you job wrong, get fired. So why should we applaud and salute them for a job poorly done? simple: we don't. 



in short; all Bioware had to do to stop all this before it all began was
1) say sorry for the ending
2) release a better one for free.

done, no problem on to another great game. but nope, we get this.

i could be considered bioware employee but i'm not but i do have Family that does work their and at other  game companies.

As for my long  sentences  i get lost in train of thought to accurately "Voice  and text"   what i mean across but you need to see it with a clear mind   you can "mod" and  screw a video over and make it to the point that the consumers could believe it would be some game company.

I'm not Saying the ending was perfect or Great  or "awesome"  no company is perfect  whether they hide behind PR   or Deny the accusations that we the fanbase solely  point out  some do admit that they wer wrong and still keep their revenues  and fans  Bioware and EA Drones that tend to think their defending their profits when their just screwing themselves over  with even more lost profits.
I believe that if they  "MANNED UP"  that they would admit what they did could of been better considering the games that they've made that beat ME3.


But the thing is i like Me3 soley for the MP  since its a first for them but who knows  The reasons why they hide behind PR no one really knows  or even knows why that guy that Made ME1  Quit in my opinion i think it was Cause of  the way Ea treated them  since i've seen that in the past few decades of reports on the internet. and what my sister did and seen how she was when she verbally quit  EA and worked for bioware   while ignoring the actual  EA staff  on their  "needs and wants"

but we all are entitled to our opinions of the game it wasn't perfect nothing is.

[Damien Shepherd]

PaxtonFetel wrote...

summarize: the main problem ME3 - it's players. And so in general, the game - a masterpiece, and nothing here can not be helped.

Here's a better summary
: Bioware instead of replacing or adding options on top of a crap ending they're extending the crap ending it in the hopes of making it not quite as crap.
Main problem besides the ending: -it's players paying lip service to Bioware refusing to recognize theres a problem in effect condoning they're atrocious behavior and muting any future efforts to rightfully complain.

[Blazerer]

Damien Shepherd wrote...

PaxtonFetel wrote...

summarize: the main problem ME3 - it's players. And so in general, the game - a masterpiece, and nothing here can not be helped.

Here's a better summary
: Bioware instead of replacing or adding options on top of a crap ending they're extending the crap ending it in the hopes of making it not quite as crap.
Main problem besides the ending: -it's players paying lip service to Bioware refusing to recognize theres a problem in effect condoning they're atrocious behavior and muting any future efforts to rightfully complain.

this. not to mention that many of those players actually think they know what they are talking about when they describe what other people should feel and think.

[Blazerer]

*double post*

Modifié par Blazerer, 07 avril 2012 - 08:17 .

[Scyphoza]

So i didnt care for the ending so they're going to give me more of what i hated? Even if its free how does this fix it for me again? I bet its extra colors.....

Modifié par Scyphoza, 07 avril 2012 - 08:26 .

[Ona Demonie]

The only thing I want from the Extended Cut DLC is that if I picked Destroy, got the scene where Shepard is alive, then Shepard goes off to find the Normandy Crew and they're reunited and they continue to build the galaxy together. That would make me so very happy.

[KeijoKala]

 Just... Try not to screw this up guys.

[SalsaDMA]

Sarah Knight wrote...

The point is  No Company is perfect  Not Ea Not bioware

It would actually behoove Bioware to admit this, instead of hiding behind their "artistic integrity", you know...

They messed up. Fair and square.

BUT

instead of admitting that they are human (to err is to be human), they keep claiming there is nothing wrong with what they said nor the product they released.

By now, with their continued claims, they have effectively backed themselves into a corner they can't really escape from without accepting the hurt it will take to go forward again.

[Cacofonix1]

Brilliant game right until the end...which is obviously why people are disappointed. I personally just felt a bit empty at the end, after 3 brilliant games I was sitting staring at the screen asking what was that?? I don't know if fleshing out the story a bit will take that empty feeling away but I'll be giving it a shot. They say it's due out in the summer I'm hoping then for that length of time that it will be something worthwhile not just 30 seconds added on!

If I get a vote though it will always be give us decent different endings!! and make the bloody war assets worth something.

[SalsaDMA]

Blazerer wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...
they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys .
but they  rather  Work their fingers to the bone just please you guys  and make you guy's happy regardless  of the people who actually do like the game.

 ok...  they could be with their Families and loved ones instead of caring about you guys  aaaaaaand there you end up using not only using a worse excuse than the one you tried to tackle not half a sentence ago, you also made it wrong. IT IS THEIR JOB. do you job wrong, get fired. So why should we applaud and salute them for a job poorly done? simple: we don't. 

Urgh. I had completely missed that part. I blame the the poor formatting of his/her text for it. Good of you to spot it Blazer.

I just wanted to add something to that one. It's a lame excuse/comment. Everyone have family and loved ones. You could use the same claim for any of historys worst criminals (and there are plenty of them that have tried using it in their propaganda, to varying effect) but it doesn't make it any more or less true. It's just an irrelevant comment that is grasping for random straws of trying to make doing 'random task X' seem more compasionate.

Well forget about it, Sarah. If they want to, they can stay at home with their loved ones instead of doing their job if they want to. I personally couldn't care less. The ones paying their salary, though, might have something else to say about it, though

The world is in no short supply of people actually wanting to have and work in a job. I'm sure we can ignore those of them that just want to stay at home with their loved ones instead, if they feel so much for that particular thing. The people relying on them might feel different, ofc, but that's not really my business to judge on.