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[CENIC]

I envision the game asking you to pick your gender at the beginning, then a short playable segment where you control a fully armored/helmeted Seeker of your gender choice carrying out a mission with Cassandra and a few other Seekers. When the short combat sequence is over, you're given the character customization screen, and then your character takes off his/her helmet.

[FKA_Servo]

Adanu wrote...

They have to make a default character. They made the character white. Why do they need to make a default? For marketing and for those who don't care about customizing their appearance. I know two people who didn't care tomake a Hawke and were glad for the default.

You're making a mountain out of an anthill and making your opinion out to be fact.

DAO did not have an iconic warden. I suppose that was a problem or something?

For those who have no desire to customize their appearance, they would have the nine or ten preset templates that they have always had (a nice thing to note here is that these presents represent a decent chunk of humanity). Pick the one you like best and go with it.

Modifié par TommyServo, 09 avril 2012 - 01:16 .

[VampOrchid]

aang001 wrote...

Little boo boos? Wow... so you...want little booties on the females? I havent heard the baby talk of booty in decades... why did you use that to talk here is the bigger question?

where I am from that means little mistake

[LobselVith8]

Adanu wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Adanu wrote...

Theres nitpicking, then theres making mountains out of anthills.

This topic is the latter.

Who gets to be the arbiter of what is or is not important?  You?  Why?  Because YOU don't consider this important, nobody else should?

Starting the PC off as white, for ANY reason, is racist.  It's an assumption catering to other assumptions that make white the default.  This assumption IS racist, and there is no reason for it to happen.  

As has been pointed out, Bioware could very easily have avoided the problem while maintaining the opening Exaggerated Narrative, but they chose not to.  I'm guessing it simply did not occur to the development team that anyone would mind.  That, in itself, is another assumption, and one based on belief that white is the default.  Again, this is a racist assumption.  Racism doesn't have to be overt, or violent, to exist.  

The bottom line of all this is that for all the positive steps Bioware has taken toward being inclusive to all its fans and doing a good job of avoiding many of the prejudiced tropes put out by other game companies, it still has a long way to go.  There's a reason why the woman who first recommended Dragon Age to me referred to it on her blog as being "the least sexist game I've ever played, ya'll."  In this, she had an excellent point.  Being the LEAST problematic, and BETTER than other companies, makes the point that it still has plenty of problems that need to be addressed.  This implicit racism that manifests as defaulting the PC to white is one of those problems.

And of course we have someone going "BUT RACISM HAPPENS TO WHITE PEOPLE TOO" which completely disregards the reality of living in a white-dominant culture, which is the very reason why this topic is happening, because it is exactly because of white-dominant culture that Bioware defaulted to a white PC in the first place.  I'm not sure which comment here is my favorite, that one, or the earlier one of "I'm a person of color and I'M NOT OFFENDED!" which of course means that no one else should be bothered either, because They Have Spoken.

Instead of jumping to defend the problem, explain it away, accuse the OP of being racist, and dismissing the problem as no big deal, people here would do themselves a favor to shut up and listen to what the OP and its proponents are trying to say. 

Not quite sure if you're racist yourself or you just love to find offense in everything.

EIther way, this is a non issue. They have to pick something as default, they did it. YOu can play a custom Hawke in game

Move on.

No one gave you the right to police this thread, or to dismiss people from having a different opinion than you. You also have no right to tell me, or anyone else, to "move on." It isn't a non-issue, it's an issue I chose to address because I think it merits discussion, and there are clearly others who share that view.

You're welcome not to share my view on the matter, but I don't see why I should remain silent simply because my view doesn't conform to yours. I don't think that there was any merit in having Hawke start off as a specific race, when we can customize the character, especially when he can be covered from head to toe (as we can see in the example of the Ser Isaac of Clarke armor).

I see it as a problem that needs to be resolved, and I would prefer to see the developers handle the problem rather than repeating it with future Dragon Age games.

[macrocarl]

Since the story at the beginning was the exaggerated one most of the 'facts' were wrong. I just chalked up what Hawke looked like as one of them.

[The dead fish]

For the love of god. Why do people always bring " hahaha, move on, deal with it, " or as a black guy, or I don't know what, I didn't feel offended , or worse, they did that because.... "

But whatever the reason why they did that, the point IS that it would be nice if Bioware never does that again. Because they could have any reason to do that to each game.

Does it bother you if we have the character creator first, yes or no ? If it does not bother you, then don't react as if it was an issue and move on... That's just silly.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 10 avril 2012 - 12:43 .