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[anlk92]

Red Dust wrote...

There it is, folks. That's what they're offering. If you don't like it there's no reason to further voice your distaste. Just stop buying their products.

When Bioware lays in a mass grave with the other properties EA has murdered, I hope they'll know to look back to this moment and see that their fan base offered them this one chance at redemption and they turned up their noses at it.

Unfortunately, this.

[darkshadow136]

They obviously were not listening to us, like they said they were.

[Iylara]

It seems so surreal. I have grown up on this company since I was a teenager. I call Indoctrination of the bull**** EA kind.

[bpzrn]

Consumers are entitled to receive a product they expect to receive when they purchase a product/service or “art work”. Add to that the PR/Marketing that built up the endings and game, zero of that marketing held true. Our decisions meant squat and the past 5 years meant nothing. They just plopped an off the wall story, new character and took away the main characters involvement at the end of the ME story and jammed it all in 5 minutes?

Maybe EA should take BWs lead on this new way of delivering games, make all the game endings art instead of sticking to a story line or make sense just plop in “whatever”, push for speculation?

You know like make EA NHL 2013 have the coaches be the goalies because they game designers art vision thought that would be great? Not that it make sense or fits with the rest of the game.

I wish the decision maker(s) on this ending would simply fess up and say year, we tried something and it did not work, we will fix it.

[InsaneTofu69]

 "My soul
Burns
With a fire of darkness
Quenched only in the pain
Of loneliness
I hold my breath waiting
Until spots appear black as the past
And fill my lungs up with lies of hope
I mark myself
Black and jagged
To cover the scars
That make me a monster
A warning
This is not a place of honor
No esteemed dead are buried here."
                                                    -Jack[/i]

Modifié par InsaneTofu69, 05 avril 2012 - 04:45 .

[BDelacroix]

hippanda wrote...

I've been waiting for an announcement about their intended course of action before submitting my review(s) to sites like amazon/metacritic/etc. Now that wait is over.

Bioware won't be satisfied with what I'm going to submit, but I'm going to stand by my artistic vision.

Just completed my amazon review.  At least I didn't give it 0 stars.

[TygerHeart]

Nicholas Meyer thought his artistic vision of Wrath of Kahn was superior to the fans at the time. He broke down to pressure and left a method open for Spock to return. Now he wonders who badly his 'vision' would have impacted the franchise. I guess we'll have a parallel to compare it to.

[tjmax]

Funny EA stock started to rise with the DLC announcment then dropped with the FAQ.. you do the math.

[SuperZombieChow]

This is a dark day indeed. There's always a chance that clarification will turn the ending into something wonderful, but I gave up hope long ago. I'll give it a try when it comes out, but I'm hardly chomping at the bit to load up my Mass Effect games again.

[Dr_Hello]

So all of decisions made by player throughout the series amounted to... NOTHING but "...by the way pick ending A, B, or C..."

Modifié par Dr_Hello, 05 avril 2012 - 04:50 .

[Voutsis1982]

An opportunity most game makers never get - a second crack at it, a second deadline, a chance to knock it out of the park and read the minds of gamers about what worked and what didn't.

But if they're really dropping the ball on this one, this may be a free DLC I'm going to pass up.

[GargamelLeNoir]

Nothing to be proud about this end guys, although you sure can be proud of the rest of the trilogy.
Hint : for those epilogues you make, what we did for the last two games must ACTUALLY matter. Meaning that someone who only have 3 can't have all scenes.
I know we've been too subtle posting our requests every day for a month, so let's keep clarifying...

[Rockpopple]

Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?

Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard’s story.

You think this would go without saying, but people honestly expected them to completely change their ending. Astonishing.

[Robhuzz]

rizuno wrote...

SNESwiggum wrote...

I never expected bioware to make new endings. I only expected them to clarify things like they said they would. But this confirms their artistic vision on how to end the mass effect trilogy was absolutely terrible. How the producers and writers could sit down and think that was a fitting conclusion to an amazing science fiction universe is something I will never be able to comprehend.

This.

How can you be proud of that ending!!!???

Can.  Not.  Comprehend.  

It must have involved either EA indoctrination or lots of drugs.... No sane person could come up with garbage like that and actually like it, let alone be proud of it.

[Dominator24]

Tossska wrote...

Ok. We lost. Waiting for "Mass Effect 4: Torrent Edition" and "Dragon Age 3: Pirate Bay Expansion"

Oh man you realy crack me up, thanks. But the sad thing is, its prpbably true.

[SovereignX6]

Bioware won't add at least 1 ending? I'm dissapointed already.

[Vergil_dgk]

Kaeede wrote...

An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the “Extended Cut” will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it’s at no cost to you – the fan.

Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn’t:

What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?

• For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard’s journey.

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

• BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?

• Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.

Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?

• Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard’s story.

So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding. Summer is coming…

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

While I appreciate you are doing something, this isn't what we were hoping for. Expanding on the ending likely won't be enough as the problems wasn't the amount of content, but the fact that it was linear, counterintuitive and made no sense. More exposition isn't likely to change this in my view. You have every right to be proud of the game and the franchise, but just as much reason to be ashamed of the ending, in my oppinion. I do wish you all the best and hope you pull it off - for people like me, this is the only chance to save the franchise. I hope you appreciate that. Additional dlc and even new games make little sense with the ending left as it is.

[Qutayba]

There's no way they can completely undo the horrific ending. That's just part of history now, and hopefully they will learn the right things from the controversy. What they can do is try to make things right with the fans. I'm willing to give them a chance.

[AnsinJung]

Let's try some word association:  Ambrosia, err i mean, Artistic integrity:  Tali's portrait.

I guess it's hard to resist copying Deus Ex, even when the context isn't there.  That they use "artistic vision" aka integrity as a defense again is pretty insulting.  Are they incapable of addressing why people think the ending is bad and/or at least attempting a rational counterargument?  I believe the answer is yes, as I don't think you can rationally defend the endings as they are.  But they are unwilling to admit that.

The one redeeming quality is, of course, that it's free, but that's small consolation right now.

Honestly, I'd rather pay $5 (but not $15--unsure on $10) for a completely new ending or an IT ending with additional gameplay that's at least as good as ME'2s but with more epilogue as well.  Charging for ending DLC could be a little embarrassing even for EA after winning a prestigious "worst company in America" award, but I recognize that work isn't for free and to entirely redo the ending would require loads of work.  I would pay in the spirit of, "you messed up, but that stuff happens, if you show good faith, so will I." 

Could that set a precedent for intentionally writing terrible endings?  Yes, but in this case, I don't think it's intentional, and if it happened again, suspicion levels would go from benefit of the doubt to >9,000.  It's kind of like lending money to a coworker.  If they pay you back, you'll do it again, unless there is some deception involved.  And if they don't pay you back, you'll simply never lend again.

[rebo_tfc]

This is a disgrace.

[nwj94]

If in three months they release actually well thought out content that leaves the game without a sense of overwhelming hopelessness and confusion then kudos.

If three months of work culminate in an extra minute or two of cut scenes that do nothing to address the problems then I think BW and I are going to be parting ways.

Until more info is given my fingers are crossed.

[Grand Wazoo]

Anyone in their right mind couldn't have expected Bioware to change the ending. It was never going to happen. Then again, anyone who thinks that this "closure and clarification" will do anything but make crappy writing to be covered in candy cotton is as delusional.

All I would have liked to see was Bioware swallowing their pride and admit they screwed up.

[Lukanp]

 
 

Anyone remember this? The galaxy seemed to be full of possibilities back then.

Modifié par Lukanp, 05 avril 2012 - 04:54 .

[BladyMZ]

Theory:
They will add Shadow Broker-like 5 second animations of Krogan warlord killing Wrex with spear, Garrus eating Tali's legs on a jungle planet because of starvation and Harbinger trying to indoctrinate Illusive Son (played by Charlie Sheen).

Result:
Lols and rotfl from everyone!

[Anduin The Grey]

I've never really understood all this hate on the game and the more I read the more bemused I get, I liked the 3rd one and the biggest problem for me was the lack of closure. Of course I worry that EA rushed it out the door a lil and tacked on a multiplayer at the expense of a bit of the story polish but the game is hardly completed yet.

But I had fun playing it, am having fun with the multiplayer, despite the irritating control issues, a little more closure and a few more added cinematics sounds great to me. Also, I don't feel lied to or cheated, when I was reading Casey Hudson's post about the game and the dissatisfaction of the ending my head did droop a little when he pointed towards the reviews and then immediately perked up when he clarified that those unhappy with the game had just as valid a reason to be upset with the game.