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[Cogneter]

Bumping for the great justice.

Keep the pressure on, people. We can't give up now.

[Aceor]

voted

bump

[Cogneter]

I don't get it, why all the "goodbye" threads? Why give up now?

What you did initially was to convey a MESSAGE. A MESSAGE that 90% of Mass Effect fans were NOT satisfied with the ending. You just need to convey this message once again - the "clarification" DLC will NOT cut it. We need a sensible ending for the trilogy we all came to care and love. No amount of "clarification" can clean the mess that the ending currently is.

I do not ask you to do that for BioWare. Do this for Mass Effect, the Universe you came to love and care about. Convey the MESSAGE that the game as great as Mass Effect DESERVES a no-less great ending.

And, even if BioWare fails to listen, we can still make a better ending of our own, and then, with some luck, embed it into the game.

We CAN and we WILL make things right, one way or another.

[Nauks]

Depends on the content, which we have NOT seen yet.
So no, voting on assumptions doesn't cut it.

[TheCrakFox]

No, this is exactly what I hoped the wouldn't do.

Currently raging out.

[FOX216BC]

Voted!
Saw the results lol

[Corrik Ronis]

Maybe, we'll have to wait and see.

[Amagoi]

Voted, and not surprised by the results. Very few people wanted clarification. It makes me wonder if there was truth to a lot of people saying that Bioware only listens to positive feedback. It seems that way now, doesn't it?

[Baryonic-Member]

Clarification won't repair plot holes. Don't settle with this--hold the line.

[xsdob]

Now that's just sad. Almost as much as my now locked rant.

[SaltyWaffles-PD]

We need to keep this thread and poll alive and kicking. By the time we get 50,000 votes, we'll have some pretty hard data in our hands.

[Spaceguy5]

Unless their 'clarification DLC' can make the ending magically make total sense (no retarded plot holes) without poor execution, I think it's a terrible idea. Like, they better have a -damn- good explanation for why the hell the Normandy was leaving, and were it was going.

[Cazlee]

The results are somewhat different on this poll:
http://social.biowar...7&poll_id=31419

[Cogneter]

Nauks wrote...

Depends on the content, which we have NOT seen yet.
So no, voting on assumptions doesn't cut it.

We know for sure at this point that there will still be:
1) Starkid
2) 3 forced choices
3) Multicolored explosions
4) All Mass Relays exploding, but somehow not killing everyone in their systems
5)

That is basically what the majority of players have been opposing. And BioWare, which have been "listening", addressed none of these issues, instead offering us some extra cutscenes (free, at least).

If we do not press this issue further, they will surely NOT change any of the points above. If we do, there is a still hope they will actually ADDRESS those issues in the coming DLC.

So, if we do nothing at this point, then everything we stood for is surely lost.

[Cogneter]

Cazlee wrote...

The results are somewhat different on this poll:
http://social.biowar...7&poll_id=31419

I believe "Wait and see" option there implies the possibility of the ending being actually fixed, which was later refuted by BioWare in their blog.

[MintyCool]

REtake is getting everything they wanted, for free: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11037569

[RebelByDesign]

Based on the info from the FAQ it's a resounding NO from me.

[Cogneter]

SaltyWaffles-PD wrote...

We need to keep this thread and poll alive and kicking. By the time we get 50,000 votes, we'll have some pretty hard data in our hands.

I suggest placing a link to the thead/poll in the signature. That way, people learn about the poll from many threads at once.

[UJN]

As long as they explain/remove squad getting onto Normandy, Normandy being far away from battle and Shepard waking up (on Earth?) I'll be happy.

[Nauks]

Cogneter wrote...

Nauks wrote...

Depends on the content, which we have NOT seen yet.
So no, voting on assumptions doesn't cut it.

We know for sure at this point that there will still be:
1) Starkid
2) 3 forced choices
3) Multicolored explosions
4) All Mass Relays exploding, but somehow not killing everyone in their systems
5)

That is basically what the majority of players have been opposing. And BioWare, which have been "listening", addressed none of these issues, instead offering us some extra cutscenes (free, at least).

If we do not press this issue further, they will surely NOT change any of the points above. If we do, there is a still hope they will actually ADDRESS those issues in the coming DLC.

So, if we do nothing at this point, then everything we stood for is surely lost.

Call me naive but I'm waiting on a final statement that puts this to rest.
Because, hater or not, this does not rule out indoctrination (nor does it support it) but at least there is the opportunity to use it, given the current game material.

It's looking grim I agree, but not over and done with just yet.

[AIR MOORE]

Taking some figures pulled VIRTUALLY out of thin air...

1) Some ~60k fans said they were not happy with the ending (I think the largest poll ended up with somewhere around here for those who were unhappy, and a few thousand other scattered elsewhere).

2) Take into account this DLC satiates say 1/4 of those individuals. We are left with 45k who are still unhappy. (This poll seems to think that is a safe bet, early on).

3) Say some half of them refuse to buy anymore Bioware products (This is completely pulled out of thin air). This leaves us with ~22,500 people who refuse to buy Bioware products based off this whole debacle.

4) Another Bioware game comes out the vast majority of these individuals would intend to buy (say ME4)... 20k left, as 2,500 had no interest, or actually have no will and go back after these lies.

5) 20,000*$60 game = $1,200,000 in lost sales (total)... almost certainly somewhere around the1-million dollar mark, sure not A LOT for Bioware, but solid chunk of change.


6) Factor in these numbers with the one floating around that only some #% of individuals complain about the product vocally (I think it was 3-4%).. and you have a serious chunk of change.

[Cogneter]

Nauks wrote...

Cogneter wrote...

Nauks wrote...

Depends on the content, which we have NOT seen yet.
So no, voting on assumptions doesn't cut it.

We know for sure at this point that there will still be:
1) Starkid
2) 3 forced choices
3) Multicolored explosions
4) All Mass Relays exploding, but somehow not killing everyone in their systems
5)

That is basically what the majority of players have been opposing. And BioWare, which have been "listening", addressed none of these issues, instead offering us some extra cutscenes (free, at least).

If we do not press this issue further, they will surely NOT change any of the points above. If we do, there is a still hope they will actually ADDRESS those issues in the coming DLC.

So, if we do nothing at this point, then everything we stood for is surely lost.

Call me naive but I'm waiting on a final statement that puts this to rest.
Because, hater or not, this does not rule out indoctrination (nor does it support it) but at least there is the opportunity to use it, given the current game material.

It's looking grim I agree, but not over and done with just yet.

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
  end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
  expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

This indicates there will be NO indoctrination theory in the DLC. Not if we stand idly and wait.

This is why this poll is so important. We have to show BioWare that their DLC as they have announced it DOES NOT fix the problems we have with the ending and we should URGE them to FIX those problems in the said DLC. It is not over, which is why we must act before it is.

Modifié par Cogneter, 05 avril 2012 - 08:35 .

[RedTail F22]

I dont know how they could possibly clarify that disaster. I dont want them to even try. A new ending is what should be done.

Modifié par RedTail F22, 05 avril 2012 - 08:35 .

[Cogneter]

AIR MOORE wrote...

Taking some figures pulled VIRTUALLY out of thin air...

1) Some ~60k fans said they were not happy with the ending (I think the largest poll ended up with somewhere around here for those who were unhappy, and a few thousand other scattered elsewhere).

2) Take into account this DLC satiates say 1/4 of those individuals. We are left with 45k who are still unhappy. (This poll seems to think that is a safe bet, early on).

3) Say some half of them refuse to buy anymore Bioware products (This is completely pulled out of thin air). This leaves us with ~22,500 people who refuse to buy Bioware products based off this whole debacle.

4) Another Bioware game comes out the vast majority of these individuals would intend to buy (say ME4)... 20k left, as 2,500 had no interest, or actually have no will and go back after these lies.

5) 20,000*$60 game = $1,200,000 in lost sales (total)... almost certainly somewhere around the1-million dollar mark, sure not A LOT for Bioware, but solid chunk of change.


6) Factor in these numbers with the one floating around that only some #% of individuals complain about the product vocally (I think it was 3-4%).. and you have a serious chunk of change.

Please, become EA/BioWare's accountant.

[CYRAX470]

Voted.