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RiouHotaru wrote...

How about you wait till you see the clarification before you determine that the ending is "permanently broken"?

Oh wait right, because if it doesn't answer your questions to your satisfaction, you'll say it's pointless.

Do you think they will answer and make everything better with a few cinematics? They must make a movie then.

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Deventh wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

How about you wait till you see the clarification before you determine that the ending is "permanently broken"?

Oh wait right, because if it doesn't answer your questions to your satisfaction, you'll say it's pointless.

Do you think they will answer and make everything better with a few cinematics? They must make a movie then.


Why not? We don't know what the hell they're going to do. It's better to be a little optimistic and put some faith in BioWare than act like a bunch of rabid dogs.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Deventh wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

How about you wait till you see the clarification before you determine that the ending is "permanently broken"?

Oh wait right, because if it doesn't answer your questions to your satisfaction, you'll say it's pointless.

Do you think they will answer and make everything better with a few cinematics? They must make a movie then.


Why not? We don't know what the hell they're going to do. It's better to be a little optimistic and put some faith in BioWare than act like a bunch of rabid dogs.

Oh i had faith, but it got lost after the 100th lie they said.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Deventh wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

How about you wait till you see the clarification before you determine that the ending is "permanently broken"?

Oh wait right, because if it doesn't answer your questions to your satisfaction, you'll say it's pointless.

Do you think they will answer and make everything better with a few cinematics? They must make a movie then.


Why not? We don't know what the hell they're going to do. It's better to be a little optimistic and put some faith in BioWare than act like a bunch of rabid dogs.

NO don't make sense, if you do these people will crucify you, they get clarification, closure and blue babies and they are still whining. just ignore them

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Chrillze wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Deventh wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

How about you wait till you see the clarification before you determine that the ending is "permanently broken"?

Oh wait right, because if it doesn't answer your questions to your satisfaction, you'll say it's pointless.

Do you think they will answer and make everything better with a few cinematics? They must make a movie then.


Why not? We don't know what the hell they're going to do. It's better to be a little optimistic and put some faith in BioWare than act like a bunch of rabid dogs.

NO don't make sense, if you do these people will crucify you, they get clarification, closure and blue babies and they are still whining. just ignore them

Hey, if i get blue babies i will stop whining. I promise. :innocent:

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Deventh wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Deventh wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

How about you wait till you see the clarification before you determine that the ending is "permanently broken"?

Oh wait right, because if it doesn't answer your questions to your satisfaction, you'll say it's pointless.

Do you think they will answer and make everything better with a few cinematics? They must make a movie then.


Why not? We don't know what the hell they're going to do. It's better to be a little optimistic and put some faith in BioWare than act like a bunch of rabid dogs.

NO don't make sense, if you do these people will crucify you, they get clarification, closure and blue babies and they are still whining. just ignore them

Hey, if i get blue babies i will stop whining. I promise. :innocent:

It looks like my paragon score is maxed out

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Everything you said angry one i completly agree with you you said it alright! and seriously what horrible thing they just anounced seriously this hurts especially to a Mass Effect addict like me :*(

Modifié par Crypto109, 06 avril 2012 - 10:18 .


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Deventh wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Deventh wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

How about you wait till you see the clarification before you determine that the ending is "permanently broken"?

Oh wait right, because if it doesn't answer your questions to your satisfaction, you'll say it's pointless.

Do you think they will answer and make everything better with a few cinematics? They must make a movie then.


Why not? We don't know what the hell they're going to do. It's better to be a little optimistic and put some faith in BioWare than act like a bunch of rabid dogs.

NO don't make sense, if you do these people will crucify you, they get clarification, closure and blue babies and they are still whining. just ignore them

Hey, if i get blue babies i will stop whining. I promise. :innocent:


I'm with you on that. The one thing I wanted out of this was for everyone to be able to reunite with their LI if they wish.

Plus, we don't even know what BioWare's definition of "clarification" and "closure" is. That's why I'm so annoyed with the reactions around here. We have no idea what they're planning or what they're going to do. The only thing I do know is that I'm not going to act like a petulant child.

This guy explains how I feel better than I can. It's a great thread, and everyone going ape over the DLC announcement should read this.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11078601/3#11079991

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Deventh wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Deventh wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

How about you wait till you see the clarification before you determine that the ending is "permanently broken"?

Oh wait right, because if it doesn't answer your questions to your satisfaction, you'll say it's pointless.

Do you think they will answer and make everything better with a few cinematics? They must make a movie then.


Why not? We don't know what the hell they're going to do. It's better to be a little optimistic and put some faith in BioWare than act like a bunch of rabid dogs.

NO don't make sense, if you do these people will crucify you, they get clarification, closure and blue babies and they are still whining. just ignore them

Hey, if i get blue babies i will stop whining. I promise. :innocent:


I'm with you on that. The one thing I wanted out of this was for everyone to be able to reunite with their LI if they wish.

Plus, we don't even know what BioWare's definition of "clarification" and "closure" is. That's why I'm so annoyed with the reactions around here. We have no idea what they're planning or what they're going to do. The only thing I do know is that I'm not going to act like a petulant child.

This guy explains how I feel better than I can. It's a great thread, and everyone going ape over the DLC announcement should read this.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11078601/3#11079991




Jessica Merizan said on twitter that you can reunite with your crew if you made the right choices

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I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else.

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I've been around the corporate culture for 12 years. I can say that Bioware's reaction came to no surprise to me. In fact, I posted exactly what would happen a week ago. It was mostly ignored. Some thingd to remember:

1) Don't blame Bioware/EA.  It's not that they don't WANT to change the ending. It's just that they can't. It's got nothing to do with artistic integrity, tho. 

2) There was never a chance for them to change the ending. Let me say this again for emphasis:   THERE WAS NEVER A CHANCE FOR THEM TO CHANGE THE ENDING. Like i said above, I've already mentioned in an old (completely ignored) post in the Retakers forum. It showed in the tone, direction and language of their PR reply.

3) They're calling your bluff. They don't think the majority will follow thru on their boycott threats. With good reason.

What's next? Predictable really.

Don't delude yourself. EA is neither worried nor affected nor "scrambling". The direction of EA's PR campaign has always been measured and controlled:

They got media on their side. This way they can influence "moderate" opinions and focus the direction of the "pro" crowd towards a specific direction while discrediting (to the best of their abilities) the retakers or "anti" crowd.

They bided their time and waited for the moderate's passion (who are leaning towards a dislike of the endings) to lose steam.

They extended an olive branch (free DLC). Don't get decieved. This is nothing more than a PR tactic which is:

Divide and conquer. They now made the moderates within the movment split with some being optimistic with the upcoming DLC (including some of the organizers) and others understanding that this is just not what they wanted. 

Let me just say this again: the ending will NOT change whatsoever. Only "clarified".  It is obvious with the tone/ language/direction of their statement.

In the end, the choice is always with the individual on how they wish to accept this. Just don't be decieved in believing that the upcoming "free DLC" will be anything that you've hoped for.

By then, however, it'll already be too late.

Check and mate, i guess.

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Chrillze wrote...
Jessica Merizan said on twitter that you can reunite with your crew if you made the right choices

And then she said she didn't made any promises at all. When i see it happening in the game then i will rejoice.

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Nassegris wrote...

I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else
.

then leave and stop your whining, no one will miss you

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Deventh wrote...

Chrillze wrote...
Jessica Merizan said on twitter that you can reunite with your crew if you made the right choices

And then she said she didn't made any promises at all. When i see it happening in the game then i will rejoice.

Then stop act like a rabbid dog and chill out abit seriously

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Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else
.

then leave and stop your whining, no one will miss you


Haha, you're kidding me, right? You're that desperate to be unpleasant to people just stating their opinion? I just said I'm just here for the rest of the day - and you need to feel like a big boy and tell me to go? I'm just waiting to see if anything else comes up from PAX.

Wow, so impressed, fella..

Gee. :wizard: Bet you feel like your briches are too small for your junk, now.

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Nassegris wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else
.

then leave and stop your whining, no one will miss you


Haha, you're kidding me, right? You're that desperate to be unpleasant to people just stating their opinion? I just said I'm just here for the rest of the day - and you need to feel like a big boy and tell me to go? I'm just waiting to see if anything else comes up from PAX.

Wow, so impressed, fella..

Gee. :wizard: Bet you feel like your briches are too small for your junk, now.

yeah I do

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maaannn this is depresing :( this ruined my day i guess i better start trying out new games like i heard that binary domain game is pretty cool

Modifié par Crypto109, 06 avril 2012 - 10:31 .


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Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else
.

then leave and stop your whining, no one will miss you


Haha, you're kidding me, right? You're that desperate to be unpleasant to people just stating their opinion? I just said I'm just here for the rest of the day - and you need to feel like a big boy and tell me to go? I'm just waiting to see if anything else comes up from PAX.

Wow, so impressed, fella..

Gee. :wizard: Bet you feel like your briches are too small for your junk, now.

yeah I do


I bet you do, big boy. /pat pat

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Nassegris wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else
.

then leave and stop your whining, no one will miss you


Haha, you're kidding me, right? You're that desperate to be unpleasant to people just stating their opinion? I just said I'm just here for the rest of the day - and you need to feel like a big boy and tell me to go? I'm just waiting to see if anything else comes up from PAX.

Wow, so impressed, fella..

Gee. :wizard: Bet you feel like your briches are too small for your junk, now.

An no I am not kidding, I don't want your negative attitude on the forums, me and all the other REAL fans don't want whiners here

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Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else
.

then leave and stop your whining, no one will miss you


Haha, you're kidding me, right? You're that desperate to be unpleasant to people just stating their opinion? I just said I'm just here for the rest of the day - and you need to feel like a big boy and tell me to go? I'm just waiting to see if anything else comes up from PAX.

Wow, so impressed, fella..

Gee. :wizard: Bet you feel like your briches are too small for your junk, now.

An no I am not kidding, I don't want your negative attitude on the forums, me and all the other REAL fans don't want whiners here

Everyone can express their feelings that being positive or negative. You're not the one to say that.

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Deventh wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else
.

then leave and stop your whining, no one will miss you


Haha, you're kidding me, right? You're that desperate to be unpleasant to people just stating their opinion? I just said I'm just here for the rest of the day - and you need to feel like a big boy and tell me to go? I'm just waiting to see if anything else comes up from PAX.

Wow, so impressed, fella..

Gee. :wizard: Bet you feel like your briches are too small for your junk, now.

An no I am not kidding, I don't want your negative attitude on the forums, me and all the other REAL fans don't want whiners here

Everyone can express their feelings that being positive or negative. You're not the one to say that.

I know and I just expressed what I feel about all the whiners. I will be calm and mature to people that deserve it, you guys don't.

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What's the point in all this? Bioware/EA's already won. :-/

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Some good points, OP. Inserting this quote because I like it:

Sinner8056 wrote...

People have asked for a new ending. Bioware says they will explain the current ending. This is not what those people asked for. Continuing to ask for the thing they want is not unreasonable.

Now the manner in which people are asking may be unreasonable, but that's not a reason to generalize everyone as being unreasonable.


I have a feeling that BW is probably going for the easiest and the lowest common denominator as the solution here. A lot of posts about grievances amounted to little more than "blue babies and what is that Normandy doing", both of which can be easily addressed with closure cinematics. Provided, of course, that you're willing to commit genocide in order to live.

Anyway, I'm not happy with this. Appreciate the gesture of course, but I don't feel that it's going to hit the issue. Staying calm and withholding full judgement until it arrives, but that doesn't mean I won't be unhappy in the meantime.

Modifié par evisneffo, 06 avril 2012 - 10:42 .


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Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Nassegris wrote...

I will vote with my wallet, and hold the line with it. A clarification of Star Brat will change none of the things that I can't stand about the endings.

But hanging out at the forums no longer has a point. Just waiting for this day to finish, then I'm gone.

Came here originally because I was a fan. Since I'm no longer a fan, I might as well do something else
.

then leave and stop your whining, no one will miss you


Haha, you're kidding me, right? You're that desperate to be unpleasant to people just stating their opinion? I just said I'm just here for the rest of the day - and you need to feel like a big boy and tell me to go? I'm just waiting to see if anything else comes up from PAX.

Wow, so impressed, fella..

Gee. :wizard: Bet you feel like your briches are too small for your junk, now.

An no I am not kidding, I don't want your negative attitude on the forums, me and all the other REAL fans don't want whiners here


Ah yes, "real" fans. I'm curius as to what they are. By your post, "real" fans sounds like people who have nothing but postitive things to say.

Honestly that sounds more like a fanboy to me.

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D_Dude1210 wrote...

What's the point in all this? Bioware/EA's already won. :-/

NO YOU WON, they fix the ending for YOU this is the best that YOU will get