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[Xellith]

I can see this thread getting locked.. but I do agree with the OP.... cant say more.. dont wanna get banned...

Modifié par Xellith, 06 avril 2012 - 02:02 .

[Shalewind]

I endorse this. It's stating sentiments that I lack the capacity to fully articulate with this eloquence.

[Warrior Craess]

Gigamantis wrote...

It's cute that you think that.

I saw a little girl that really strongly believed that the kitten she drew was good.

That little girl was probably a retaker and the kitten was the indoctrination theory.

You retakers threw a fit and it didn't work. There was never a reasonable case for your side of this, just a lot of butthurt fans rambling about plot-holes that are painfully easy to dissprove.

Disprove them then, with out using  any of your own head canon.  Explain what the Normandy was doing when it was hit by the wavew of space magic. Explain where it is. Explain Why the star child needed Soveriegn to activate himself to allow the reaper invasion from ME1. Explain Where in the lore is that says Synthetics are Doomed to try to eradicate all organics. Explain where it is demonstrated that they would actually win. How did my LI end up on the Normandy where ever it is, and where ever it was going.  Explain How any of the choices prevent the Cycle from continuing. Especially the synthesis one - Cyborgs can't create artificial intelligence?  

Lastly if this is the end of Shepards story what the heck is up with Shepard breathing? And why is that only if you've played MP/iOS app sufficiently. 


Please do this with only in game lore.  not assumptions about what happened, no jumping to conclusions.  If you can answer all of those questions, there are a whole slew of other plot hole issues that we love to see you solve for us (using in game lore/scenes only).

[Gigamantis]

Warrior Craess wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

It's cute that you think that.

I saw a little girl that really strongly believed that the kitten she drew was good.

That little girl was probably a retaker and the kitten was the indoctrination theory.

You retakers threw a fit and it didn't work. There was never a reasonable case for your side of this, just a lot of butthurt fans rambling about plot-holes that are painfully easy to dissprove.

Disprove them then, with out using  any of your own head canon.  Explain what the Normandy was doing when it was hit by the wavew of space magic. Explain where it is. Explain Why the star child needed Soveriegn to activate himself to allow the reaper invasion from ME1. Explain Where in the lore is that says Synthetics are Doomed to try to eradicate all organics. Explain where it is demonstrated that they would actually win. How did my LI end up on the Normandy where ever it is, and where ever it was going.  Explain How any of the choices prevent the Cycle from continuing. Especially the synthesis one - Cyborgs can't create artificial intelligence?  

Lastly if this is the end of Shepards story what the heck is up with Shepard breathing? And why is that only if you've played MP/iOS app sufficiently. 


Please do this with only in game lore.  not assumptions about what happened, no jumping to conclusions.  If you can answer all of those questions, there are a whole slew of other plot hole issues that we love to see you solve for us (using in game lore/scenes only).

The Normandy was traveling through a relay and you're not supposed to know where it is.  The catalyst needed the reapers to do things it couldn't do itself.  Synthetics have pretty consistently been at odds with organics throughout this game and previous cycles have demonstrated that synthetics will always grow vastly superior to organics.  The choices aren't meant to prevent the cycle from happening, only to end the current cycle and/or cleansing without destroying everything.  There are many ways your squad could've ended up on the Normandy while you were away, that doesn't need explanation and isn't a plothole. 

Lastly, the end of Shepards story ONLY means that, no more stories around Shepard.   Whether he's alive, dead, in purgatory or imagination land doesn't matter.  

Everything that needed explaining was explained and everything else was just obvious to the point of not needing explanation.  Easy. 

[Silver5k]

Thank you, OP.

[KestrelM1]

I agree 100% with what was said in the OP.

The ending presented is a complete disconnect from the themes and strengths of the Mass Effect series.

A series whose defining characteristics are player choice, character relationships, and consequences of decisions should not end with a brief segment that completely dispenses with all three.