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#1376
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Someguyukno wrote...

Here's a fun read for you all, if you haven't already heard of the tale of Shepard's Last Foe.

His name was Marauder Shields.

http://koobismo.devi...llery/#/d4t2v53

Hold The Wallet.


:lol: and then I couldn't help but click the link that went to this youtube: 

Thank you for the laughter. It is 5 AM here and I fell asleep to an eposiode of Lost, depressed re: ME3, and woke up at 1 AM. I needed a laugh before going to bed again. Thanks! :D


PS. I will work on a Euro (and also, for myself, Swedish bills) :wub: banner, later on today, btw.

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#1377
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OldSwede wrote...

Someguyukno wrote...

Here's a fun read for you all, if you haven't already heard of the tale of Shepard's Last Foe.

His name was Marauder Shields.

http://koobismo.devi...llery/#/d4t2v53

Hold The Wallet.


:lol: and then I couldn't help but click the link that went to this youtube: 

Thank you for the laughter. It is 5 AM here and I fell asleep to an eposiode of Lost, depressed re: ME3, and woke up at 1 AM. I needed a laugh before going to bed again. Thanks! :D


PS. I will work on a Euro (and also, for myself, Swedish bills) :wub: banner, later on today, btw.


It's sad that this guy was able to make a better ending for Mass Effect 3 out of a meme than the actual writers could.

#1378
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Someguyukno wrote...

True, and I'd definitely love to have seen Harbinger in some form fight against Shepard. But I wouldn't want to just have another repeat of the final fight from Mass Effect 1, like they did with the Illusive man/Saren. 

I would have liked to have seen Bioware do something creative. For example, let's say that Harbinger tried to stop Shepard from activating the crucible. We would hear his voice attempting to quickly take over Shepard, and Shepard would have to fight illusions to continue forward, finally activating the crucible and destroying the reapers. By overcoming Harbinger, we would be able to destroy the reapers.

I actually saw a good example of a fan script for the ending featuring something like this. If only I could find it...


Exactly, this is why I advocate either fighting him by controlling the Normandy, or orbital strikes from sword.

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The_Crazy_Hand wrote...

Exactly, this is why I advocate either fighting him by controlling the Normandy, or orbital strikes from sword.


Gotta admit, would've loved some space combat.

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I saw one of the really involved plot trees for what the ending should have been, reading through it I found that my LI (Jack) died as a result of my earlier decisions, it was still a thousand times better than the official ending.

I'm just glad I ran my adept first, I can at least pretend that there was a reunion with Jack. If I had've run my other male Shep with Tali as my LI I would have been even more pissed off.

Seriously, I saw YouTube videos where she took a nose dive because her people were idiots and got themselves blown to hell, what kind of reaction would she have had to being stranded on some random jungle planet with no hope of seeing her boyfriend or Rannoch again?

Totally killed the replay value of the whole series and any chance of selling DLC.

I gladly bought DLC for ME2 and DA:O but it sure ain't happening again.

I'm actually wondering if EA is paying attention, they may be pretty close to the Reapers of gaming, but they sunk a lot of money in to Mass Effect 3 and the ratings/sales tank because of this so-called ending has to make them take notice.

I remember another great company, freshly bought by EA, that put out a bad game and then followed it with a horrible joke masquerading as a game only to find their brand dissolved as a result.

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You know what I'd like to see for a new ending? Some Reapers revolting against their leader/creator, be that the AI child or whomever, and joining Shepard in this battle :) And yeah, some great battle against Harbinger or some other super Reaper like the human Reaper (now, that was creepy).

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It's amazing how so many fans have come up with better, deeply engaging endings that the majority agree are more satisfying than the official one, in under a month.

#1383
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Blade Blackheart wrote...

You know what I'd like to see for a new ending? Some Reapers revolting against their leader/creator, be that the AI child or whomever, and joining Shepard in this battle :) And yeah, some great battle against Harbinger or some other super Reaper like the human Reaper (now, that was creepy).


Eh, it'd be contradictory to the reaper plot itself, so it makes sense for them to operate on a hive mind.  That said, Harbinger being the hive mind itself would have made more sense that that stupid kid.

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If this Extended Cut fails to please the fans, I'm looking forward to seeing how people will be constructive about it. Perhaps a group of modders will create an all new ending for the game, though EA seems to be against mods of any sort. Still, it'll be interesting.

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I want to see what EA and BW's reaction will be. It'll be like angry mobs with pitchforks and torches marching on Bioware. I won't be part of the angry mob, i'll be 200 feet away eating popcorn and laughing at them. Kalross will be next to me asking if she can eat the creators.

How can i say no to her sad face. ;p

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I found something rather interesting while going on the boards, this post which is apparently someone pitching the idea for character specific mass effect hoodies to bioware. If implemented many people will more than likely buy at least one, even with their stance to boycott bioware the temptation might be too great. So, I prupose that should this go through, we don't try and jump on it as bioware trying to bribe the fandom, as I think the retake and hold the line movements might through knee-jerk impulse, but instead keep civil in stating that it is very nice and appreciated, but not what we wanted.

Personally, I can see at least one of these hoodies being really popular.

http://social.biowar...ndex/11263821/1

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Darth Spike wrote...

Kalross will be next to me asking if she can eat the creators.

How can i say no to her sad face. ;p


Creators? I find it doubtful that hoever wrote the Tuchanka section had any hand in the ending.

Tuchanka: Well written, classifiable as artistic, even the death of Mordin belonged there and made up for being sad by actually being good.

The "ending" that was shipped: Poorly written, out of place with all that came before, used "art" as an excuse for flushing the whole series in the last ten minutes.

Whoever locked themselves in a room and pulled that last few minutes out of an unnamed orifice needs to be given a one-way trip to Tuchanka. There's no way I can blame the writing team though, something like that could never pass any competent review process, someone going on a power trip is the only way I can see having it go from epic win to epic fail so quickly and completely.

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xsdob wrote...

If implemented many people will more than likely buy at least one, even with their stance to boycott bioware the temptation might be too great.


Not a good enough bribe. A functioning Omni-tool might make up for it.

Modifié par Waldschatten, 12 avril 2012 - 05:59 .


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xsdob wrote...

I found something rather interesting while going on the boards, this post which is apparently someone pitching the idea for character specific mass effect hoodies to bioware. If implemented many people will more than likely buy at least one, even with their stance to boycott bioware the temptation might be too great. So, I prupose that should this go through, we don't try and jump on it as bioware trying to bribe the fandom, as I think the retake and hold the line movements might through knee-jerk impulse, but instead keep civil in stating that it is very nice and appreciated, but not what we wanted.

Personally, I can see at least one of these hoodies being really popular.

http://social.biowar...ndex/11263821/1


Eh, IMHO, that would have happened either way.  It's simple milking of the franchise, not deflection.

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I just joined, I'm sick of EA just doing whatever they want to us. Electronic "Arts" has never been about art, its well documented that they abuse employees and its only gotten worse since the economic crash.

#1391
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Maestro of Fails wrote...

I just joined, I'm sick of EA just doing whatever they want to us. Electronic "Arts" has never been about art, its well documented that they abuse employees and its only gotten worse since the economic crash.


Welcome, and I agree with you.  You can not make all sorts of changes based on user feedback, then double down on one thing and call "artistic integrity".

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I'm in.
Hold the Line, Stay Civil, Hold your wallet.

#1393
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zimm2142 wrote...

I'm in.
Hold the Line, Stay Civil, Hold your wallet.


Glad to have you with us. Welcome to the movement.

Hold The Wallet.

#1394
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zimm2142 wrote...

I'm in.
Hold the Line, Stay Civil, Hold your wallet.


Good to see some spirit.  It is this kind of drive that will maintain your hod on your wallet ;)

#1395
Someguyukno

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Bump for all that is good in Mass Effect.

Hold The Wallet.

#1396
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The_Crazy_Hand wrote...

Maestro of Fails wrote...

I just joined, I'm sick of EA just doing whatever they want to us. Electronic "Arts" has never been about art, its well documented that they abuse employees and its only gotten worse since the economic crash.


Welcome, and I agree with you.  You can not make all sorts of changes based on user feedback, then double down on one thing and call "artistic integrity".


Yep

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The_Crazy_Hand wrote...

Maestro of Fails wrote...

I just joined, I'm sick of EA just doing whatever they want to us. Electronic "Arts" has never been about art, its well documented that they abuse employees and its only gotten worse since the economic crash.


Welcome, and I agree with you.  You can not make all sorts of changes based on user feedback, then double down on one thing and call "artistic integrity".


That is the point! AAA games aren't art at all. Bioware searched for an excuse nothing more.

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Maestro of Fails wrote...

I just joined, I'm sick of EA just doing whatever they want to us. Electronic "Arts" has never been about art, its well documented that they abuse employees and its only gotten worse since the economic crash.



I've called 'em  Electronic Accountants since DPaint 3 ...    :?

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Welcome to all the new members of the movement! We are truly glad you are here and support the cause. Not only does this help yourself, this will also help the entire gaming industry progress.

As for the above, I disagree. An AAA title CAN be art, it's however very rare to see since AAA usually equals a game backed by a gigantic corporation with a broad audience as target. Sadly, art does not often equal a broad audience.

Furthermore games, because they are games,  are often viewed as not being art. but why not?

Look at games like:
- Amnesia with excelent voice acting and great suspense. a truly immersive environment
- Journey and Limbo. no conversations, simply being there, wandering and exploring.
- Elder Scrolls games. A truly free world, extreme detail for lore and conversations (just take a look at the number of book titles in the games. many of these books have at least 20 pages or more)
- Braid. At first glance a simple puzzle game but with a hidden, much deeper meaning.
- The Mass Effect series, even though the end ruined the replayability of the series, that does not change the fact that I got teary-eyed on quite a few ocassions.

I could continue for a while with this list but for my point this should do. There are already games out there that surpass simple entertainment purposes, and the Mass Effect series had the possibilty to not only expand on that list, but expand on what we define as 'games'

Games have the ability to broaden our perspective, to make us rethink current issues and problems, to make us feel emotionally conected to the characters and the struggles they are facing. Games can and will be one day, recognized as art. It is up to us to make that happen

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 Hello everybody and a warm welcome! :)


@Mack0438,
Oh thank you!!! I was going to do a Euro-banner, for you all,  but I had probs with my PS and then I wasn't sure which font to use.
Great! 

I'll make a Swedish one for myself later on :wub:


edit: Speaking of th ending, I would porbably never choose that myself, but it would have so easy for them to give one - just one - laughter, when havig Shepard choose Control, sayng "Assuming Control"
I would certainly have laughed at that. :-)

Now, when I get money, I'm not going to hold my wallet for the poor Maurader. I just have to get that T-shirt :lol:

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PPS: Thank you for the tips Blazerer! I love TES (and I fell in love with Tomb Raider, too, although it's just action) and Mass Effect, those are the only ones that have really caught me.

I'm not very good at knowing games (I am hopelssly bad at playing e.g. GTA4 and Assasins Creed (my 12 y/o niece had to help me through the tutoria in that onel!! that says alot about me, and Call of Duty et cetera  LOL but ok, I wouldn't mind trying again), although I am  picky as well.

I didn't like Bioshock - just tried it a little -- should probably try again. And Halo 3, I understood NOTHING! hahaha

And I want it to be good subtitles, like in ME1 - I don't see that happening though - and I want to be able to play as a female, which according wikipedia, when I check games there, they aren't always accurate (of course, I can't blame them - just would love to know more games). 

When I do a search now - it narrows it down to Dargon Age (I think it was called) Kingdoms of Ama...something (EA-game and Bioware, I believe - so it leaves me to....nothing :'-(

Unfortunately, I am not fond of the japanese RPG at all - but from what I've read they are very good. I don't know why, but it does not appeal to me.

Modifié par OldSwede, 12 avril 2012 - 11:57 .