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[SheffSteel]

I am loving this game just as I earlier loved playing the Witcher (despite some truly awful technical problems getting the latter to run on my PC... I am still unable to play EE).

I feel that both games have a very strong in-world atmosphere. Needless to say, in DAO this is more focussed on your party and your character's relationships with the companions, and in TW it's more based on interactions with passersby, I think.
Both games also give you the ability to make difficult choices and (usually) force you to live with the consequences - obviously, within the limits of a scripted game. I'm more familiar with those in the Witcher (and don't want any spoilers here) but I haven't yet finished DAO so am not really qualified to comment.
Graphically I thought that both games were good enough that I didn't need to complain, while not being cutting edge (although the level design made me say "wow" in a couple of places in each game).
The skills systems of the two games are of course very different, but the role that you are given to play is fixed in each case. Dragon Age gives you more choices as to how you approach that, although The Witcher does let you focus quite strongly on magic or swordplay if you want to.
(Please, don't get too distracted by the timed-click combat system in The Witcher. I don't think that prevents it being a roleplaying game any more than it the combat were turn based, or even text based.)

So what do other players think?

~ remember, no spoilers please ~

[Bibdy]

Hmm...I think its been long enough since I played Witcher that I've pretty much forgotten what the hell goes on in that game. Should load that sucker up again.

[The Angry One]

Isn't the Witcher some sort of brothel simulator?

You even get erotic cards for completing it. <_<

[The Angry One]

blarg double post badness

Modifié par The Angry One, 03 décembre 2009 - 08:09 .

[Big Mabels Diet-Plan]

I gotta say that I was a bit dissapointed with the witcher after hearing about how mature, dark and gritty it was. It's inventory system was horrible, the potion making tedious, the load times were grindingly slow, the graphics weren't great and to be honest I had to just quit when a ****ing werewolf started talking to me and it was just dude voice actor growly talking.

Im a sucker for RPGs but the Witcher was boring as ****, the best part about it was the cinematic at the beggining.

[AshTheKing001]

I really liked The Witcher and I'm really liking DA:O. Both of their choice systems are quite similar.

It seems to me that TW, had more choices were based on values instead of "good/evil". Do you prefer Personal Freedom at the price of chaos and anarchy or Safety and Stability at the price of Tyranny? Do you sacrifice few to save the many, or do you value individuals as highly as groups?



On a side note, one of the most surprising and enjoyable parts of TW's conversations and choices was not making the choice, but explaining why you made the choice. That really helped to frame who your character was and allowed you to behave with consistency.

[Sam -stone- serious]

The original (as in NON enhanced edition) Witcher was a complete disaster for the exact reasons TripedWire speaks off. Want 5 minute loading times between freaking HOUSES? There you go, the Witcher. Wanted to hear completely disastrous voice acting (apart Geralt himself)? There you had it. Glitchy graphics? Witcher again. In short it was a really promising game gone horribly wrong by technical issues.



And then the Enhanced edition came. Fixed a LOT of the issues of the first edition. Kept the mechanics and polished them up and you had a fairly competent RPG game. The bad things about it are still loading times (though not nearly problematic but could cause you to wonder off screen when they happen), a combat system that begs you to use the alchemy system in order for it to be interesting and with greater involvement. If you fail to enjoy the alchemy system then you are in for some really tedious combat mechanics.



The witcher has been for me a love/ hate affair. You either love it (or grow to love it) or hate it outright and probably never touch it again. If you remotely like what you see for the first 5 or so hours into the game then chances are you are probably going to love it in due time. If not....well....you know.

[Wyllowe]

The Witcher Enhanced Edition rocks and I own both the original and E.E. editions. As in DAO , there are moral decisions to make and there are consequences for those decisions, more so in DAO than in The Witcher.



Both games play well and entertain greatly, provided you are the type of person who immerses yourself into the game world.

You get out of it what you put into it.

[Invalidcode]

I played The Witcher 3 times before EE came out. There are flaws but the game is great as a whole.

DA:O & The Witcher are really apple & orange though.



Both are great games.

[Slayer D]

I gave witcher a shot and I couldn't stand the absolutely horrible combat system. So I give witcher a 0 or even -5 out of 10.



But DAO is a great game that was rather well designed in most aspects. There's hardly a comparison aside from them both being high fantasy.

[Maj Gant]

As someone mentioned, the "enhanced" edition is far different than the original release. I feel like the Witcher and DAO are significantly different so a comparison isn't very easy. It is fair to say that both had mature themes, but Witcher was much more raw and DAO more spit and polish. Witcher was like an indie release and DAO was a Hollywood affair. While I found DAO quite enjoyable, it was very LOTR derivative while Witcher was much more inventive. But really while both are fantasy RPG's, they offer very different experiences both of which worthy of play.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I could not stand The Witcher, and uninstalled it after only a couple of hours.

That timing-based combat mechanic was unbearable.

[bjdbwea]

Never finished the Witcher. Played through DA more than once. Enough said?
What bothered me most with the Witcher was the impossibility to give your player character customized looks. A 3D RPG needs to have that, period.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 03 décembre 2009 - 09:19 .

[Endurium]

Both games try to be dark, but overall I'll give DA:O the nod due to a couple encounters; TW never made me feel wary or uneasy. On the other hand, the TW books are darker than the DA:O books.



Thankfully I got into the Witcher after the EE was released, so I had a very solid game experience. It's one of my favorites now. Looking forward to #2 though I'm not happy with the QTE being added to combat. Hopefully the QTE fad passes soon. The best part of TW is that I get to solo the game. There are times I enjoy party-based games, and there are times I don't. TW is a game for when I don't.

[Auraad]

The witcher is based on the NWN engine ...

It does look a zillion times better that NWN, however.

Anyway, it had it's cool things - as has DA:O ...

(man, I miss BG and NWN ....)

[Naminator236]

TripedWire wrote...

I gotta say that I was a bit dissapointed with the witcher after hearing about how mature, dark and gritty it was. It's inventory system was horrible, the potion making tedious, the load times were grindingly slow, the graphics weren't great and to be honest I had to just quit when a ****ing werewolf started talking to me and it was just dude voice actor growly talking.
Im a sucker for RPGs but the Witcher was boring as ****, the best part about it was the cinematic at the beggining.

Talking werewolf?

Well thats the first time I hear of such things, no other game has that, does it? <_<

[hfbrooklyn]

I was going to start a whole new thread for this, but I guess I'll just say my piece here.



To be frank, I like the Witcher much more than Dragon Age, although I enjoy both games throughly. The graphics in the Witcher were better, I felt the voice acting was too. The combat may have been a little repetitive but, we're talking about RPGs here. When I play DrAge I stick to the same few spell combos/skills I know work best. I'll give it to you, the spells are varied in DrAge and traps,poison, herbalism add great features, but in the end it's still point and click. I feel the Witcher wins simply because you have a greater role in combat, what with the specific mouse clicks and allowing you to fully experiment with creating new pots. I really felt the crafting was truncated when I couldn't just go to town trying making Tawny Owls and ZerriKanian Kings and Queens with an empty flask and some elfroot.



My biggest gripe, however, is the presentation; including the story. Dragon Age is interesting but I felt the Witcher had a much more dynamic and malleable story. Your choice made much bigger waves in that game, simply. And you were always in some place fresh, new, and interesting- I never backtracked to the first area because there was no need to. The story flowed along and didn't have me traveling across a continent. That was nice.



Another thing is that the story is similar to DrAge's in some places but I feel the Witcher did those themes better. Having Elves and Dwarves as second class citizens was further explored in W and having thriving cities to romp around in contributed to that. DrAge feels dead, no matter which way you slice it, and cold. The lack of Dwarves and Elves in the first half of the game was strange.



While having your own origin was a great idea, It made the story seem distant at times and disjointed. Playing Geralt of Rivia, you'd meet people you knew before the game started and deal with those perceptions of you. Because you were one, solid chracter instead potentially six, the story was focused on you and you alone, and it never felt weird that, say, you being an elf or a dwarf never factored into the dialouges much, even when you knew it should have come up more.

(Dealing with the Dalish as an elf comes to mind). As a Witcher everyone knew. And it was thrown into your face every five minutes. Hearing "Here's a Witcher, hide your women!" from the ambient crowds is still great fun, lacking in Denerim.



So, hey,WALL OF TEXT.

[ct1615]

The Angry One wrote...

Isn't the Witcher some sort of brothel simulator?
You even get erotic cards for completing it.

The witcher is one of the worst games I have ever played!   I bought the game and played it for several hours but just stopped.  The main character was so stupid and the whole sex/erotic cards...is the entire RPG gaming community a bunch of fat guys who have never touched a girl's chest without her calling the cops or asking for a fee????

[Sam -stone- serious]

I think there is **** in my boots.

[oganalp]

I have The Witcher and Enhanced Edition both as retail versions (just bought the EE as a fan to have in my archives).



The Witcher is far more mature in means of content (not only talking about sexual content but the choices / results are very shady and gray rather than black - white). It is a darker world than Dragon Age: Origins. DA:O has a dark theme going but the overall atmosphere is cheersome in means of design and graphics and setting. Its more sad than dark.



The Witcher is relatively weaker than DA:O in means of skills etc, better in herb stuff and so. Voice acting is much more better with DA:O. Music is... well, DA:O is typical Inon Zur. High quality but nothing unexpected. Witcher on the other hand has one of the best soundtracks that came out recently with all those folk elements.



DA: O cities etc are not that "lively" while Witcher gives a more "alive" feeling within the concept of its story. Witcher has far more "side fun" things to do like gambling or fist fighting etc etc while DA:O offers less as world enrichment.



DA:O load times etc are better but after you play for a few hours, it starts to compete with Witcher in means of loading duration.



Also, Witcher has no party stuff, you are solo except for some scripted story cases.



Storywise, Witcher is more appealing with its twists and turns and dark approachs. Dragon Age: Origins is... well, usual. Yes it is epic and fun but nothing "different"

[KalosCast]

They're similar settings and moods, but Dragon Age has one feature The Witcher was sorely missing, in that Dragon Age is fun and not a grind-fest. The Witcher was an MMORPG that didn't give you the option to troll Trade Chat with ignorant political statements.

Modifié par KalosCast, 04 décembre 2009 - 12:58 .

[hfbrooklyn]

I really don't understand all this fuss about sex. So you're playing a character who gets around a lot... many heros in games and other media have an amazing libido. It's not as though you're actually having sex- it's just alluded to as it usually is, in movies etc. only you get the cards. But really, who's going to boot up The Witcher to look at a few cards? Anyone who really cared to see naked elves and such could search in google for twenty seconds. At least in the Witcher, the story sometimes coincides with your sexual advances. That wizard lady, for example- getting friendly with her is important if you choose. Dragon Age and Mass Effect... having sex is just a minigame- showering a character with gifts.



Another thing, the main character spoke in such a dull monotone and acted coldly because being a Witcher numbs your emotion, I think.