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[twystedspyder]

Justin2k wrote...

Please stop taking Jessica Merizan's being nice to you on her own private twitter as gospel or proof they are going to redesign the ending for you. This usually ends in death threats to her from the Retake people.

Just expect low, and then you may be pleasantly surprised.

@Justin2k- Your sig banner makes me hate your face-soul, but I completely agree with you here.  Grain.  Salt.  All that. 

Do not assume anything based on any quote by anyone affiliated with BioWare.  Have we not already learned our lesson?

Be calm.  Be cool.  Keep voicing your opinions.  Play a better RPG in the meantime.

[Dresden867]

Mr.House wrote...
Which is a plothole.

This dismissal in no way changes that it -occurred-.

[Zhor2395]

watch what they do, not what they say.

[pavi132]

She doesn't know ****. Don't bother her twitter with legitimate issues and questions cause she will just feed you bull****.

[Thalador]

Dresden867 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Depends. In Arrival, you tossed an ASTEROID into a Relay. Not the same.

I don't care what we did to it, the relay exploded, it destoryed a whole system. All relays blow up at the end of ME3 and we see the shockwaves. Nothing explains why the star systems with a relay survives except for space magic.

 .. except that this clearly cannot have happened, or the "Shepard Lives" Destroy ending would be flatly impossible.

Your 'irrefutable' logic is actively refuted by existing content.

Just because Walters and Hudson don't understand basic physics doesn't mean that star systems survive: energy does not simply disappear just because someone wants it to.

Mass relays are the most powerful FTL engines in the galaxy. The fact that the Reapers who have been around for at least 1 billion years proves that the mass relays are just as old as well, and that they've been operating at maximum capacity for all that time. This provides an outlook on the amount of energy they had and still have - either basically unlimited - unlikely - or still enough to last for many more millions, if not billions, or trillions of years. Now, when a relay is abruptly destroyed somehow, all that energy it still had will be unleashed in one cataclysmic shockwave - just like it was shown in Arrival. No matter how the relay is destroyed - unless it is pulled in and consumed by a black hole - its destruction will lead to the release of all its remaining energy. At the end of ME3, that's exactly what happens. The space magic brings about a series of chain reactions in that gigantic eezo core, the relay still shoots out the space magic signal to the next/neighbouring one(s), and then explodes in a supernova. This is continued by the "epic" sequence of an overlook of the Milky Way (someone about 50,000 years later is going to see the whole firework going down right before his/her eyes if he or she is at a spot with a great view of the disc of the Milky Way) from where we can see all relays blowing up.

Yes, Shepard's breath and the survival of the crew do imply that this "explosion was different," but alas, that can only be explained through space magic, which in turn rips a singularity in the fabric of ME lore. Conclusion: the destruction of the relays is a terrible part of the ending... one of the countless other issues.

Modifié par Thalador, 05 avril 2012 - 11:11 .

[Blue Liara]

This is ALL PR nonsense. To try to calm the fans before PAX.

I think it is outrageous and a massive slap in the face.

The fact that they say they will not be discussing the ending so ME at all at PAX is really inexcusable.

WHY CAN'T THEY?!! What are they the CIA unable to disclose information vital to the security of the homeland.

Oh yea they don't care about the fans they don't want to really appeal to them. They feel like they are being forced to do this because they would lose so much business if they did nothing.

They believe that they will make an ending that will stop them from losing future revenue and silence the movement. That is all they care about, the bottom line. Not appealing to the fans, not creating good content.

They are ruled by their outrageous ego's which they call Artistic Integrity. Which makes them so absurdly arrogant they can't admit that they were WRONG. Pathetic and arrogant. If they don't CHANGE the ending, they don't deserve to survive.

Remember they have yet to admit ANY fault with regards to the ending. They have stuck to the line that it is just their "most passionate" fans that don't get it. Seriously every time I hear this I feel like their saying, some of our stupid fans who we need to make money don't get the ending so we'll give them some throw away BS cutscense to shut them up, then take more of their money with pre-ending DLC that we'll release before the ending DLC.

Bioware if you do not CHANGE the ending I say goodbye and good riddance. If you grow a pair and have the guts to admit your mistake and change the ending, I will have a new found respect for the company.

It is much harder to admit your wrong, then to claim that you are right.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

I say we keep asking them questions, they can't avoid tens of thousands of angry fans for long.

[Quietness]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

 I know for many that an extended ending cut won't be enough. But I just talked with Merizan over twitter. She told me that:

1- No one starves to death, somehow.

and 

2- No ending will be perfect, there will be some sacrifices. But it is possible to have shepard reunite with normandy and crew.

Of course, we'll just have to wait and see what this extended cut actually shows us. But if this is accurate, then I think I'll be just fine with this. Not really the best ending due to...well. Plot holes and star child. But I'll be okay if this is the possible outcome of said endings.

I can't really post the link to the tweets since my google chrome is being stupid. But I'm sure if you look you'll find out discussion. It's fairly recent. 

- Thanks for Thrawn81 for getting a picture of it. I'll try to get another picture up soon. Seems like firefox works fine with BSN links here.

As for shepard being reunited with normandy- https://twitter.com/...955957643481088

Thanks for the people providing the links when I couldn't.

No one starved in first place due to them all dieing from Chernkov radiation when the ship was ripped out of FTL..

[sky99cap]

And they're going to do all this with a few vids and cut scenes?

Ya right!

Don't hold your breath, but I would hold your nose.

[DarkShadow]

"Rebuilding the relays is completely likely". I don't want to rebuild them, I don't want them to explode by space magic in the first place.

"No one starves to dead". Surprise, earth had enough food for every species in stock.

"Reuniting with the crew is possible". Means choosing destroy. Means killing the geth and EDI.

Yeah, no, I think I'll keep complaining, because Bioware just doesn't get it.

[jfruelas521]

this actually makes me feel better

[Doofe2012]

If this is true, then I will actually be more or less satisfied with the ending. Not happy with it, but satisfied.

[SovereignX6]

Listen, give us at least a reunion with LI.

[2484Stryker]

Leaving vent brat in and still forcing my Shepard to pick one of the three choices will not fix anything for me.

And if Shepard living means having to commit genocide on the Geth and killing EDI, then I'd rather that he stayed dead.

[byarru]

Does it mean that I HAVE TO commit genocide in order to reunite with Normandy?
If this is so, frag you, BioWare. Frag you and this lack of choice!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

The thing is. I want to know exactly how shepard's body presumably ended up on Earth after picking the destroy ending.

[BarrelDrago]

Why did i came here, now i got my hope up

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

BarrelDrago wrote...

Why did i came here, now i got my hope up

I'm sorry.

[mirage2154]

Just wondering, after all those lie are still willing to believe what they say? They are just trying to shut you up and forget it.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

It's really hard to understand their logic at this point. What exactly do they get or preserve besides their ego by pissing off a large portion of their fanbase?

[CELL55]

So no one starves? How is that even possible? MORE space magic?! If the holes in this ending get any bigger, they're going to suck my entire XBOX into an alternate dimension.

[BarrelDrago]

Ok am back, took sometime to digest what we were told, and the o one will starved is actuly just a statement about nobody will be show starving, so the starving will be off screen.

[Greed1914]

CELL55 wrote...

So no one starves? How is that even possible? MORE space magic?! If the holes in this ending get any bigger, they're going to suck my entire XBOX into an alternate dimension.

I know I'm really curious to see all of this stuff "clarified"  Really, I am.  Given how dependent everyone was on the relays I just want to see what kind of explanation they come up with that is actually feasible.  We all know that FTL is too slow to feasibly support the galaxy, we all know Earth is in no condition to support the fleet, and we know that it would take far too long to rebuild the relays to make things go back to normal before things got really bad.  Needless to say, I'm quite curious.  Skeptical, but curious.

[Fisto The Sexbot]

CELL55 wrote...

So no one starves? How is that even possible? MORE space magic?! If the holes in this ending get any bigger, they're going to suck my entire XBOX into an alternate dimension.

How is that possible: How about food that they can eat? Why even assume that they'll starve, heck, who came up with this crap?

Plot holes aren't just things left unexplained, you know -- by nature they're events that rely on contradictory information, or at least conflicting enough so as to make something seem very unlikely. Having Tali or Garrus starve or not starve -- neither of those outcomes are conflicting with what we've seen so far.

Asking about how exactly they got there if they were with you on the final mission: now that could be considered a plot hole. 

Modifié par Fisto The Sexbot, 06 avril 2012 - 09:50 .

[Fisto The Sexbot]

Greed1914 wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

So no one starves? How is that even possible? MORE space magic?! If the holes in this ending get any bigger, they're going to suck my entire XBOX into an alternate dimension.

I know I'm really curious to see all of this stuff "clarified"  Really, I am.  Given how dependent everyone was on the relays I just want to see what kind of explanation they come up with that is actually feasible.  We all know that FTL is too slow to feasibly support the galaxy, we all know Earth is in no condition to support the fleet, and we know that it would take far too long to rebuild the relays to make things go back to normal before things got really bad.  Needless to say, I'm quite curious.  Skeptical, but curious.

If the Citadel maybe wasn't actually destroyed then it would be more feasible. Also, travel between planets in a solar system is still possible. I wonder if humanity managed to grow something on the other planets in the Sol system?

Also, assuming that some species are dead because their fleets are stranded in the Sol system is iffy. If the Quarians retook their own homeworld, I doubt they'd still send all of their civilian fleets into battle. Same with Palaven and Tuchanka -- most likely there are still a lot of people left on their homeworlds.