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[iSpider-Man]

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

iSpider-Man wrote...

i thought the asari said itd be foolish for anyone to try and build the mass relays in mass effect 2? so im guessing space magic will make the rebuilding possible?!

They regarded it as hideously expensive.
So basically, Merizan expects individual, devastated worlds with their entire infrastructure destroyed, their enviroment ruined and their populations decimated to each successfully undertake a project that would've been considered prohibitively expensive to an entire. Galactic. Society.

Makes sense. Also, the Krogan will start sneezing out delicious cake on command.

Well hey, they sure got together to build the Crucible mighty fast, despite their homeworlds being Reap'd.

It's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

The asari surely wouldn't think it as foolish now that there are no relays left (save for a certain inactive Prothean-made one on Ilos...)

i have slight hope but i expect to be how they rebuild the relays. also relays blow up so planets explode/die/no longer exist right? so the only way tis will work is

[wright1978]

KelaSaar wrote...

If all this DLC ends up being is applying lots of Space Magic to make a happier ending, I am not going to be happy. I mean I wouldn't mind a happy ending, but I want it to make sense.

Yeah same here. Happy dust to make people stop asking the questions about why the ending makes no sense.

[Reorte]

I really, really hope this isn't a windup. If it's true it might just be enough for me, even if some annoyances like the Starchild remain. But I don't want more false hope only to have it cruelly dashed.

wright1978 wrote...

KelaSaar wrote...

If all
this DLC ends up being is applying lots of Space Magic to make a
happier ending, I am not going to be happy. I mean I wouldn't mind a
happy ending, but I want it to make sense.

Yeah same here. Happy dust to make people stop asking the questions about why the ending makes no sense.

It would be enough for me to not view the rest of the series as something I couldn't face playing again but I completely understand your position too. I view "not making sense" as a bit less important than tone here partially based on the past - the Reaper baby in ME2 didn't make sense either but could at least be shrugged off.

Modifié par Reorte, 05 avril 2012 - 06:34 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Blue Liara wrote...

Jessica's comments really don't seem like they can be true based on the statement released from Bioware. I don't see how people don't starve, shepard, survives or that the themes of the series are preserved unless the ending is completely rewritten. Unless they use the indoctrination theory I don't see how any of it works.

We'll have to see. Like some others have already said, I highly doubt Jessica would give these seemingly definitive statements if it's just speculation and her interpretations. She'd probably get in trouble for it.

[frylock23]

Grudge_NL wrote...

I am happy if this will be in the extended Cut. God, with this forum's attitude, they should be happy Bioware even makes an extended cut. Most of these forum members are arrogant pieces of ****, who aren't entitled to anything except their ****ty live in which they only care about the ending of a VIDEO GAME. Some of you should just snap out of it and start contributing to the real world.

Some of us do .... and pay taxes which is why we think we ought to at least get a big gorram heroic ending in our gorram video games rather than an ending in which the developer introduces a character in the last 5 minutes that might as well be their own avatar who stands their and says, "No, no matter what, you cannot win."

Rel life is sh**ty enough without paying for the privilege of being "entertained" in the same manner and then being told, "FU. It's art; too bad you don't like it."

Modifié par frylock23, 05 avril 2012 - 06:32 .

[Aurvant]

 

[Thorn Harvestar]

MOIST N FLUFFY wrote...

What she means by Shep reuniting with the Normandy and crew is that his body is eventually found and he is given a proper burial with the Normandy being museumized at his grave site.

Honestly? This would be a good bittersweet ending, esp. compared to what we got normally.

[M4ster]

I support Jessica XD GG we can win

Shepard must remeets Liara! I'm full paragorn

[BouncyCaitian]

Even if Shepard geeks while saving everyone else, it would be nice to have a decent burial scene...even if it is ashes. And show his/her effect on the rest of the galaxy through the decisions made would be kinda cool

[Unit-Alpha]

Avissel wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

I hate to say it, but I agree.

We already knew that though.

All you have to do is kill EDI and Geth.

We didn't know that we could reunite with out team possibly until today because of the umm.. lack of relays.

And I'm fine with that.

[KDD-0063]

 This is not good news.

Rebuilding likely means McGuffin is real. and that's bad.


I mean seriously. Real McGuffin only works if it's an action movie, or action game, even then real McGuffin is still bad. Sorry, I'm off track.

[The Night Mammoth]

Denethar wrote...

Aweus wrote...

And another from Jessica Merizan. She is on a posting spree. Maybe she does know something we do not?

IF and I really mean that as a big IF, that is true then I could care less about what else happens.

I......... Just........... Think I might have felt a tear roll down my cheek. 

If this happens, if Shepard sees Liara again, and Tali gets her house on Rannoch, and Ashley becomes a Spectre, and Garrus sees his family again, and EDI can live with Joker again, and Javik gets to commit ritual suicide, then........... I'll personally send them another 402 cup cakes. 

Except these ones will have a personal message of thanks and will all be different flavors. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 05 avril 2012 - 06:35 .

[tobiasks]

Denethar wrote...

Aweus wrote...

And another from Jessica Merizan. She is on a posting spree. Maybe she does know something we do not?

IF and I really mean that as a big IF, that is true then I could care less about what else happens.

I have to agree.

[Tazzmission]

Blue Liara wrote...

Jessica's comments really don't seem like they can be true based on the statement released from Bioware. I don't see how people don't starve, shepard, survives or that the themes of the series are preserved unless the ending is completely rewritten. Unless they use the indoctrination theory I don't see how any of it works.

or unless the jungle planet where the crash took place is habital with its own people

for all we know that could be the case because joker mentions of a jungle world where his dad and sister are so i wonder if thats where they landed

[DVZ]

Valentia X wrote...

If reunification requires me to commit genocide... then I guess I'm going to die. Killing off a sentient species, organic or synthetic, is a massive no-no for me.


I guess it doesn't matter. I got vapourised in the blue ending; they only they can reunite with is my ashes, I guess.

Screw that. My Shepard was a dawg. He'd wipe out humanity for some punani. He WILL reunite with Ash on that jungle planet!

Modifié par DVZ, 05 avril 2012 - 06:34 .

[stargatefan1990]

Stygian1 wrote...

This cheered me up actually... a little.

same here

[Blue Liara]

sagouro wrote...

pika9519 wrote...

gooberfish311 wrote...

She's not revealing anything. She's just pushing the 'Anything is possible with Speculation!' school of thought.

This.
and the only hope this speculation nurtures is Bioware's hope of selling pre-ending DLC between now and summer.

If they try to use this to reassure people so they buy the pre-ending DLC between now and summer, and the ending DLC does not do what Jessica is saying, or they try to decive, they really are despicable thieves. 

I can see it now,

"buy our pre-ending DLC because we are going to change the ending and give you the one you want"

Then the ending dlc is released and it is a pile of crap and there answer to the fan fury will be:

"oh we never said we would change the ending, we want to preserve our artistic integrity so we just decided to clarify the ending to explain it to all our fans who just don't get it"

Its as if Bioware want to commit fiscal suicide. 

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Avissel wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

I hate to say it, but I agree.

We already knew that though.

All you have to do is kill EDI and Geth.

We didn't know that we could reunite with out team possibly until today because of the umm.. lack of relays.

And I'm fine with that.

Like what Javik and the last protheans said, their sacrifices will be remembered and honored.

[xtroguyver]

treating this with a pinch of salt

how are they going to rebuild the relays when the current races in the galaxy don't even know how to make the things. Only the proteans ever made a working relay and that was as they were being wiped out. not only that but making one relay is usless with out another relay at the end to send the ships to

add to that because of relay travel no one bothers to map out the whole galaxy, only the areas around relays that were in use, opening up a new relay was always considered risky given the whole rachni war and how turrens greeted humans at first

rebuilding is going to be extremely hard with out the intergalactic trade of resources the relays aloud, even with out the reapers many planets and colloies could die out simple due to lack of need infrastructure/resources caused by the war, hell it would cause chaos just having no more galactic economy, most places with any surviving civilization could end up like Germany did after WW1 with money being completely worthless and everyone is major poverty

[CroGamer002]

It's something.

[DESTRAUDO]

aristaea wrote...

DESTRAUDO wrote...
Everyone assumed they would all starve for no reason. Everyone assumed the relays could not be rebuilt for no reason. Everyone assumed the normandy crew were stranded forever for no reason. Tons of people assumed the waves were destructive when shown the opposite was true.

1) There were a lot of good reasons for those conclusions, because there was nothing in the game to contradict them. For example, relay blows up > FTL is too slow to get home without food/fuel/drive discharge sites/whatever > no new supplies into Sol because no relay > dextro species in Sol starve. Nothing in the game indicates that that would not happen.

Hence the obvious need for clarification.

2) That's kind of what happens when the ending can be summed up by the phrase, "lots of speculation from everyone".

See thats my point right there.

Relay blows up. - Fine. 


FTL is too slow to get home without food/fuel/drive discharge sites/whatever. -Huge negative assumptions. Millions of stars within a months travel of sol. Krogan dmz within a years travel Turian homeworld not much farther. 

No new supplies into Sol because no relay. -V v large negative assumptions. hundreds of systems within 2 days travel. Assumes no  ability to rebuild or grow food in a technologically advanced manner. 

Dextro species in Sol starve. - Assumes dextro food cannot be created for them. Assumes there was no existing food supply for turians visiting earth. Assumes no planets in even 2 days range could support dextro life/provide dextro food, let alone within a months travel. Assumes no quarian live ships full of dextro food survived.  

The fact that the negative assumptions could not be disproved means nothing. I can make positive assumptions that cannot be disproved. People hated the ending. Because of that they assumed the very very worst for every possible variable. 

[hue04]

Creston918 wrote...

Jessica Merizan is also the one who said that the Normandy had NOT gone through the Charon relay when it fled the explosion, because it was "too far away."

Ie, thereby implying that the lush jungle planet they crashlanded on was somehow in Earth's solar system.

So I'd take anything and everything she says with a grain of salt. I'm not saying she's deliberately lying or anything, but she's a PR droid and is very likely to just make stuff up on the spot.

The idea that gates are "likely" to be rebuilt is nonsense. Every single smidge of lore in the game says that it's FAR beyond any of the current civilizations' capabilities. Yes, maybe in 10,000 years they'll be rebuilt. But don't delude yourself into thinking that they'll be back up in a few years.

Even IF a race somehow figures it out, then they still have to fly with normal FTL to a receiving location and construct a gate there. In order to relink the galaxy together, at Mass Effect's speed of 12 light years a day, that'd take 30 years in travel time alone just to reach the other side of the galaxy.

Tali ain't never gonna see Rannoch again, people. She'll be old and gray before they'd ever make it back, and of course, they can't just start flying around the galaxy, because nobody would have proper charts. (the relays made them unneccesary.)

well..since star child, everything is positive

[nomoredruggs]

Oh dear God, if my Shepard can survive and reunite with Kaidan and friends, I'll be a happy puppy.

Of course it could have been better, but as it stands, it's all I want now!

[Zofiya]

The Angry One wrote...
Makes sense. Also, the Krogan will start sneezing out delicious cake on command.

It must be dextro protein cake, which is why the turians and quarians don't starve.