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[Nigawatts]

cutegigi wrote...

Nigawatts wrote...

Merzavets wrote...

For all those who wants to try the first game check out this video becuase you may don't like the hardcore combat system . Personally i liked it way more than witcher 2 combat system
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=FEXDs8ZSow8

Eh...Witcher 1's combat system had a few problems with it as well. The major problem being that Potions were required, so much so that I was surpised how gimpy Potions in Witcher 2 were unless Alchemy perks were taken.

Then there was the button clicking minigame, which for some was fine, but for me was a bit clunky. I like the Witcher 2's more Arkham City style of swordfights. Makes it seem more organic, and you don't really need to level up your character to be good at it. Skill based ala Demon's Souls is the way to go for me.

Witcher 1's difficulty really comes from the cumbersome menus, and the fact that Potions are very important, to the point where you better be herbing constantly and have a good supply before you tackle any dungeon. Witcher 2 difficulty comes from understanding the system, and getting better at the game.

It's like learning to ride a bike. You can't outlevel it, you can only get more comfortable with it.

just play on lower difficulties.
I myself played on normal with only using health potion + occasional see in the dark potion.
Its really importan to use correct type of sword though.

I beat Witcher 1 on hardest difficulty using a mixture of OP potions and Strong Style glitch. The game really decides after a certain point that enemies won't just be difficult, but will be cheating ****s. Azer Javad is the biggest perpetrator. But yeah using the right sword is a given, but sometimes the style that the game tells you is effective, is not actually as effective as abusing the combats broken mechanics.

Not really cheating, since the game is very weathering after Act 2. There were some quests in Act IV I just didn't complete because they were a pain (Wild Hunt).

[The Angry One]

azerSheppard wrote..

TW setting is spellXsword with the inclusion of medievalism. That doesn't mean it portrays the midieval times exactly, it means that it uses midieval technology, combined with the poli-social structure of it's time as a model to shape it's spellXsword setting. Not to mention the addition of modern elements such as gene alteration, mutation and modification.

Yes yes yes Sapkowski copy-pasted medieval europe into a fantasy setting. What does he want? A medal?
Again the point you're missing is that it is not "realistic medieval".

Realistic medieval would probably involve Geralt getting burned at the stake for having weird eyes.

My original point in all this is misogyny or no, CDPR were extremely juvenile with their sex card collection, which unless my history classes fail me is not an authentic medieval past time.

Edit: Why do I keep forgetting stuff. Since they didn't follow this up in TW2 I literally have NO ISSUE with them (other than I find male characters in RPGs unappealing) so why are we arguing?

Modifié par The Angry One, 06 avril 2012 - 02:39 .

[azerSheppard]

musicaleCA wrote...

Wait...I thought I already had the enhanced PC edition...they're giving me MORE for my money? Damn I love these Polish peeps.

Every time I check back with what CD Projekt RED is doing, I'm pleasantly surprised. It's especially nice as an adult to be treated to a game that isn't shy about the M-rating. I get pretty tired of North American attitudes toward sex and violence in their art and entertainment; Europeans culture is more mature.

We central europeans (generally) simply believe if the creator of a products STATES that it is intended for a mature audience, no level of censorship should be placed on the product and NO comprimised should be made because some incapable parent is buying this for their underage child. YOUR PURCHASE? YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

[Star fury]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...


An immature argument in response. Just because the game doesn't share your views doesn't make it bad. A handful of liberal hippies use the same logic on me for ME3.

I hope that Poles just throw a bone in the future for minority and implement female protagonist. It should be optional. After all there was Ciri, who trained with witchers.

[The Angry One]

Star fury wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...


An immature argument in response. Just because the game doesn't share your views doesn't make it bad. A handful of liberal hippies use the same logic on me for ME3.

I hope that Poles just throw a bone in the future for minority and implement female protagonist. It should be optional. After all there was Ciri, who trained with witchers.

Admittedly that would be interesting.

[Yubz]

Btw. this is the new INTRO they have added to Witcher 2

www.youtube.com/watch

I believe they have a new ending as well. For free.
Quite terrible how they have completely compromised their artistic integrity, isn't it?

[azerSheppard]

The Angry One wrote...

azerSheppard wrote..

TW setting is spellXsword with the inclusion of medievalism. That doesn't mean it portrays the midieval times exactly, it means that it uses midieval technology, combined with the poli-social structure of it's time as a model to shape it's spellXsword setting. Not to mention the addition of modern elements such as gene alteration, mutation and modification.

Yes yes yes Sapkowski copy-pasted medieval europe into a fantasy setting. What does he want? A medal?
Again the point you're missing is that it is not "realistic medieval".

Realistic medieval would probably involve Geralt getting burned at the stake for having weird eyes.

Once again I must state how uninformed that is, as immoral and racist/xenophobic themes are very much touched by the author, in fact the MAIN theme of the game revolves around that.

Are humans right to claim superiority over non-humans?
And if they are, where does the Witcher stand in the moral dilemma, as he is clearly a human, yet feared by him, (infact killed by them for standing up against lynching of non-humans).


Really, you should atleast give the source material a read before you make such comments...

[Star fury]

The Angry One wrote...

Yes yes yes Sapkowski copy-pasted medieval europe into a fantasy setting. What does he want? A medal?
Again the point you're missing is that it is not "realistic medieval".

Realistic medieval would probably involve Geralt getting burned at the stake for having weird eyes.

My original point in all this is misogyny or no, CDPR were extremely juvenile with their sex card collection, which unless my history classes fail me is not an authentic medieval past time.

Hilarious. Your hatred is so funny.

The Angry One wrote...

My
original point in all this is misogyny or no, CDPR were extremely
juvenile with their sex card collection, which unless my history classes
fail me is not an authentic medieval past time.

I love their cards.

[The Angry One]

My remark had less to do with racism, and more to do with the fact that any actual medieval European would likely think him to be Satan.

[Star fury]

The Angry One wrote...

My remark had less to do with racism, and more to do with the fact that any actual medieval European would likely think him to be Satan.

You know, Geralt was actually killed because he was different.

[ShdwFox7]

RT wrote...

Both companies made big announcements today! What did they say? Let's see:
BioWare: we won't change our ending, but we'll pretend we like you, so we'll make you some cutscenes so you could just shut up. They are free, but you gotta wait 'till the summer.
CD Projekt: The Witcher 2 was pretty short, so we made a giant DLC that adds 4 hours of gameplay and 33 minutes of cutsenes and is free for everyone who bought the game. Plus, people who bought the physical copy of the game can have a GoG.com backup copy for free. Plus, there is also an iPhone and iPad app that tells the events of first Witcher. Like Mass Effect 2: Genesis DLC, only it's free. Oh, and we give away free GOG.com copies of Fallout to anyone in next 48 hours.

So, which company is superior in your opinion?

Lolz thanks man, you made my day brighter. Pre-ordered The Witcher 2 several days ago (360 owner with a bad computer).

Modifié par ShdwFox7, 06 avril 2012 - 02:47 .

[Nigawatts]

The Angry One wrote...

My remark had less to do with racism, and more to do with the fact that any actual medieval European would likely think him to be Satan.

I don't understand what you are getting at with this? If the setting were more authentic a character like Geralt wouldn't exist?

If you are just stating the obvious, fictional character would not work in non-fictional world then...congradulations?

Witcher Setting itself is actual a bit more complex. It's really more a world where magic really comes from portals to other realities and all these monsters we hunt are really aliens from other worlds.

Heck it even makes arguments that Elves are from another world. And that all the books and stories we read exist in the Witcher  universe as other Realms of Existance.

[azerSheppard]

The Angry One wrote...

My remark had less to do with racism, and more to do with the fact that any actual medieval European would likely think him to be Satan.

This is pretty much a reitteration of the previous remark, as no judeo-christion god exist within the said IP. 
Witchers ARE regarded as demons and monsters, and for this reason they are feared by most common men.
Only a select few royalty whom are often well informed of the nature of Witchers -because their loyal magi would have informed them about them- don't have an irrational hate or fear for them.

Racism and mainly Xenophobia are born from fear, such as the fear of someone being involved in diablery, whichever name said demon would carry.

Fear of the unknown, fear of change, fear of which is different. The author has survived plenty of mistreatement and is very well accustomed to racial hate, as to why he can carry said subjuct so perfecty. His character Iorveth embodies the tragedy of elves, such beauty, lost to vengeance.

I very much enjoy DA, but when it comes to maturity, i find the witcher to be slighty ahead, and this has nothing to do with the sexuality, however i must say that no artist at CD projekt would compimise nudity, to appease to a broader audience. Notice how balls-to-the-ball the difficulty was of the second game.

[The Angry One]

What I'm getting at is The Witcher isn't a realistic setting (aliens aren't realistic either k) and I'm a little tired of people saying it is.
Does that mean Dragon Age is realistic? Of course not.. nor did I say it was.

Really arguing with a Witcher fan is like being Nicholas Cage after antagonising an island full of cultists.
NO NOT THE BEES!

[azerSheppard]

The Angry One wrote...

What I'm getting at is The Witcher isn't a realistic setting (aliens aren't realistic either k) and I'm a little tired of people saying it is.
Does that mean Dragon Age is realistic? Of course not.. nor did I say it was.

Really arguing with a Witcher fan is like being Nicholas Cage after antagonising an island full of cultists.
NO NOT THE BEES!

Firstly, you seem to fail to recognize that Extra Terrestrials, are REALISTIC, as they fall unde SCIFI, and not FANTASY.
Let me state the differences between both:
Fantasy can NOT happen in reality, never will there be magic or elves f.e.
Whilst SCIFI dictates POSIBILTY, not certainly, but possibilty as we MIGHT discover alien life.

Secondly, pulling a straw-man as soon as your argument is belayed makes you look like an angry infant.

[cutegigi]

The Angry One wrote...

What I'm getting at is The Witcher isn't a realistic setting (aliens aren't realistic either k) and I'm a little tired of people saying it is.
Does that mean Dragon Age is realistic? Of course not.. nor did I say it was.

Really arguing with a Witcher fan is like being Nicholas Cage after antagonising an island full of cultists.
NO NOT THE BEES!

i get you just trying to say that you dont likethe sex cards. which is perfectly reasonable.
i personally think that was CDPR's equivalent of fade to black sex scene done by bioware, which at that time im sure they think it was a good idea/compromise between eliminating sexua aspect or animating sex scenes.

along the way they got feedback from fans. some like it, some hate it. They decided to drop the card and go full animation in TW2. Not so sure whats fans feedback on this, but i personally like it more than the cards

[panzerwzh]

TW2 does have better art style in my opinion.

[Complistic]

The sex scene was amazing in tw2. The carnival music and dwarf burping absolutely made it.

[DarkFire77777]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

CD Projekt: Independent company that can negotiate it's own publishing contracts.

BioWare: Company owned entirely by Electronic Arts and must concede all monetary, marketing, distribution, and support decisions through EA.

There's a huge difference between the two development companies.

Yea, one stays true and the other, 'cough' "Bioware", has sold it's soul.

[cutegigi]

Nigawatts wrote...

I beat Witcher 1 on hardest difficulty using a mixture of OP potions and Strong Style glitch. The game really decides after a certain point that enemies won't just be difficult, but will be cheating ****s. Azer Javad is the biggest perpetrator. But yeah using the right sword is a given, but sometimes the style that the game tells you is effective, is not actually as effective as abusing the combats broken mechanics.

Not really cheating, since the game is very weathering after Act 2. There were some quests in Act IV I just didn't complete because they were a pain (Wild Hunt).

yeah. higher difficulties will make potion and carefull style selection necessary.

Im trying to inform those that still on the fence that TW1 is pretty much accessible. especially on normal or lower difficulties where potions and style did not really complicate things much. So dont worry, its worth trying.

[DadeLeviathan]

Both companies have their pros and cons. However, CDProject has proven themselves time and time again to be the more customer focused company. This is not to say that Bioware is not customer focused. CDProject is just moreso. Does that make them a "better" developer, however? That's a question that doesn't really have a right answer.

[cutegigi]

DadeLeviathan wrote...

Both companies have their pros and cons. However, CDProject has proven themselves time and time again to be the more customer focused company. This is not to say that Bioware is not customer focused. CDProject is just moreso. Does that make them a "better" developer, however? That's a question that doesn't really have a right answer.

better developer in customer focused category 

[hammerfan]

CDPR got my attention, just started another Witcher 2 playthrough.

[ESGunslinger]

CD Projekt is a better company, because great companies go out of their way to please consumers. Nobody expects them to add free additional content to The Witcher 2, especially not for free, and yet they're doing it. This is amazing and it ensures that they have a very dedicated fan base. They're also one of the few developers taking steps toward making nudity in games acceptable (something that is long past overdue).

BioWare is one of the few companies that can make me feel so deeply invested in numerous characters, though. The only other series that has done this for me is Metal Gear Solid. The number of epic scenes in the Mass Effect games is too numerous to count. The third game was excellently done in my opinion, especially curing the genophage. That showed a master command of the craft of storytelling.

But then there's the ending. BioWare screwed up big time. I almost feel sorry for them, because I don't believe that anything they do will ever fix this. They're trying to appease people by expanding the ending, but unless I'm wrong, that's not what most of the ending haters really want. We were called whiners before, and we'll be named whiners with zealot-like conviction now that BioWare is releasing this. Most will assume that the haters are getting what they want and BioWare is bending over backwards for them.

In attempting to satisfy as many people as possibly, I don't think BioWare will really be satisfying anyone.

I am done purchasing BioWare games. Not because I don't believe they have the capability to make more great stuff. I'm sure they do. I just don't want to take the risk of having my soul crushed again.

I do still plan to play the Mass Effect games. Like the Star Wars prequels, I'm just going to make up my own version of what happened for the end of this game. I'm simply going to stop playing each time after Anderson dies.

Modifié par ESGunslinger, 06 avril 2012 - 04:18 .

[TheJiveDJ]

Holy ****! *rubs eyes* Dang CDP, you done outdid yourselves yes you did. Dangit, wheres ma dang worshiping mat when I needs it. *packs up and moves to CDP forums*