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[CerberusCheerleader]

AJRimmsey wrote...

sex is not for women who dont want kids

Hahahahahaha.
There is so much FAIL in this thread. Basically everyone who is trolling op. Seriously op, don't let the trolls get to you. Demanding a new ending at this point may or may not be silly. Voicing criticism however, is not. Keep at it.

[Rotkaepchen]

Vilegrim wrote...

they already stated that the endings are staying the same, so we have to agree with the worst killer in the history of life...nothing matters apart from that.

They've already stated that the portal explosions were none, they were merely disabled, so the star systems weren't destroyed ! Welcome to space magic and artistic integrity.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Extended Cut is free. There's no reason not to wait and see what comes of it.

Immz wrote...

And LOOK at what followed:
 - The story comes to the worst conclusion in any video game series

You need to get out more if you honestly think ME3 has the worst ending out of all videogame series in existence.

 - The final game is riddled with horrible animations, sprites, and horrible textures.

Animations I'll give you a pass on. I don't know what "spites" you're referring to, as this is a 3D game and uses 3D models that are quite good... and of somewhat better quality than the ones in the previous two games. As for the textures, those are fine.

We waited, and our worst nightmares came true.

Your worst nightmares, anyway. Some of us have decent priorities when it comes to that stuff, and wouldn't rank "a game with an ending I don't like" anywhere near that position on the list.

Modifié par Nathan Redgrave, 09 avril 2012 - 12:28 .

[Demigod]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Animations I'll give you a pass on. I don't know what "spites" you're referring to, as this is a 3D game and uses 3D models that are quite good... and of somewhat better quality than the ones in the previous two games. As for the textures, those are fine

Dont wish to be rude and if you didnt notice the sprites fine, but that just means you wernt payig much attention which again is fine but does restict your credability to comment on the graphics. Textures oin anything but faces were Mostly very low res, the Sprites do stand out rather badly, from the flames to the marines at the start and end, the 2d sprites are faily poor. Just google me3 sprites to see some examples

Modifié par Demigod, 09 avril 2012 - 12:30 .

[res27772]

Erixxxx wrote...

As I recall, they actually made changes to the ending based on feedback from that leaked script. The fanbase more or less got what it asked for.

ROFLMAO.

[Zeuserich]

CerberusCheerleader wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

sex is not for women who dont want kids

Hahahahahaha.
There is so much FAIL in this thread. Basically everyone who is trolling op. Seriously op, don't let the trolls get to you. Demanding a new ending at this point may or may not be silly. Voicing criticism however, is not. Keep at it.

I've noticed that some of the peoples criticizing Bioware and endings do not actually have ME3 (or any other games) registered on social site... which makes me think that you guys did not actually buy the game and yet think that it is ok to demand something from developers.

Nobody's entitled to anything when it comes to somebody else's artistic vision. Especially if you didn't pay the author in the first place.

Telling the truth and keeping calm instead of inciting hysteria - is not trolling by the way.

Modifié par Zeuserich, 09 avril 2012 - 12:29 .

[PaddlePop]

This place is going to erupt again in 6 months time. But what does impress me, is that the Retake Movement hasn't fizzled out. Bioware must have been counting on it dying off, but so far we've shown we can continue on...

I just hope we keep the pressure on them, and they realise, that as consumers we demand quality. Dragon Age 2's one cave and copy-pasting was the last straw. There is no excuse with ME3 any more.

[Icinix]

Erixxxx wrote...

As I recall, they actually made changes to the ending based on feedback from that leaked script. The fanbase more or less got what it asked for.

lol. Changes to the leaked script...you see..that didn't happen.

Prior to release people who were aware of the leaked script were saying how bad the ending seemed to be, BioWare suggested they had made changes, the endings came out and were the same. Nothing was changed in the endings, despite the fact it was clear that people did not and would not like the endings.

[Rotkaepchen]

jedi.flow wrote...

Immz wrote...

rpgfan321 wrote...

... Well there are other games out there, and other entertainment to appreciate.

Such a great philosophy!

Sure, let me just take my 100+ hours of time I put into this series, and simply put it somewhere else!

If only I could.

Then
kill yourself or something, but please stop spamming the boards with
another thread on the same thing we've heard a million times.

So, you sugest that BW should do away with such invested fans ?

By the way, no jedi would say something like that.

[Daforth]

Erixxxx wrote...

Immz wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

As I recall, they actually made changes to the ending based on feedback from that leaked script. The fanbase more or less got what it asked for.

We asked for our choices to matter. 

Not one person can say with a straight face that this is the ending that they wanted.

Our choices did matter. Perhaps not in the way you wanted, but they did matter in what options you were presented with in the ending. If you did really bad, you won't even get a choice in the ending. You'll stop the Reapers but torch Earth in the process.

Yes, your choices being reflected by war assets is still your choices mattering. Is it optimal? Perhaps not. But they did not lie on that point.

Well I would agree with you if I did not made a small experiment recently. I was curious what happens if you have very lo EMS, very low I mean around 1000. So I edited a savegame to have ~1200 EMS (a savegame having above 5000 before) and played the Earth part again. Nothing changed! Nothing! I played the same battles the same sequence. The only change was that at the end I could only chose the destroy ending and it resulted its "vaporize" ending. The logical way would be that if I have so low EMS I don't even reach the beam, in this case somewere I had to die, Reapers win! But no. 

So, sadly my oppinion is that even the previous choices matter through the game it does not reflect well in the final sequence, and this is a very polite expression to describe that.

[ReshyShira]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Extended Cut is free. There's no reason not to wait and see what comes of it.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't be upset about being ignored.  All they got was that we didn't like the ending, so what did they do?  Offered more of the same hoping people would stop raging on the forums about it.  Encouraging people to do so means you're letting bioware get away with it.

[Drake_Hound]

They are not getting away this time , sorry they beter pull a beter rabbit out of the head .
Or hire beter tech bubble guys , cause currently even there logic is failing .

So to save the problems fire those damn marketing people who said it will work .
Use there money to give us fans proper alternative endings .

Cause this time people had enough ! .

[Vengeful Tiki]

Kris69 wrote...

And there's nothing you can do about it. BW is listening to us, but they won't give us what we want. Deal with it.

[CerberusCheerleader]

Zeuserich wrote...

CerberusCheerleader wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

sex is not for women who dont want kids

Hahahahahaha.
There is so much FAIL in this thread. Basically everyone who is trolling op. Seriously op, don't let the trolls get to you. Demanding a new ending at this point may or may not be silly. Voicing criticism however, is not. Keep at it.

I've noticed that some of the peoples criticizing Bioware and endings do not actually have ME3 (or any other games) registered on social site... which makes me think that you guys did not actually buy the game and yet think that it is ok to demand something from developers.

Nobody's entitled to anything when it comes to somebody else's artistic vision. Especially if you didn't pay the author in the first place.

Telling the truth and keeping calm instead of inciting hysteria - is not trolling by the way.

Mhmm .... I'm still undecided whether I will actually buy this game. It's good for the most part and probably should be supported, but in their reactions to their fans Bioware has shown a level of ignorance and arrogance that I find unacceptable.

People have gone to great length to show that the ending fails on virtually every level. Bioware should acknowledge this. But even saying nothing would have been better than telling the players that they simply didn't get it. That's an insult. Talking down to people is not the way to go, and if these people are your customers then that doesn't make it exactly better.
Also: sex is not for women who dont want kids:wizard:

PS: As a character from Dragon Age 2 (Isabela) explained it: "Art is an idea. It makes sense in a world of ideas. But not in our world."

[Blooddsshott]

Hello OP, i stopped reading as soon as you said "clearly states that it will not change a single thing about the absolutely disgusting ending," Wrong. Please send me the source from where bioware specifically said they arent going to be changing one thing about the ending, When they announced the extended cut they said it will be the same ending with more scenes and or dialogue they did not say they werent going to be making minor tweaks or alterations to said ending. This is why you cant make assumptions like this when its not even near release date. On a side note the leaked script and demo complaints are completely irrelevant to the ending dlc issue, no one has seen/played the the dlc, you cant just go around tossing accusations at it when in retro spect no one exept bioware knows how it may will turn out. -Thanks

[saracen16]

OP, you are seriously overreacting and making statements based on your opinion of the game and the ending. You don't have to have faith in BioWare to know that patience is a virtue. They've already stated that they will listen to fan feedback for the Extended Cut, so just wait and see.

Also, thanks to the whining of you and your cohorts, we won't be seeing a good single-player DLC that could actually flesh out the story more than it is right now. Hell, we could have had a DLC with a new squadmate, character, or planet that gives more backstory into the Reapers (e.g. Klencory, Klendagon, etc.).

Because of this, you have lost the right of being impatient. Just wait... and see...

[Dragoonlordz]

PaddlePop wrote...

This place is going to erupt again in 6 months time. But what does impress me, is that the Retake Movement hasn't fizzled out. Bioware must have been counting on it dying off, but so far we've shown we can continue on...

I just hope we keep the pressure on them, and they realise, that as consumers we demand quality. Dragon Age 2's one cave and copy-pasting was the last straw. There is no excuse with ME3 any more.

It has fizzled out, only die hards still ranting on and on whining. A lot of people are happy with additional cinematics and epilogue content to flesh out and explain the endings. Only ones still throwing the extreme end of hissy fits about, are ones who wanted parts cut or replaced. Those ones are not getting what they want and they can whine for as long as they like but it won't change anything. The amount of people still complaining has shrunk and retake has lost a vast amount of its original members because those ones are happy about this additional content.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 09 avril 2012 - 05:23 .

[Il Divo]

saracen16 wrote...

Also, thanks to the whining of you and your cohorts, we won't be seeing a good single-player DLC that could actually flesh out the story more than it is right now. Hell, we could have had a DLC with a new squadmate, character, or planet that gives more backstory into the Reapers (e.g. Klencory, Klendagon, etc.).

Why should anyone care? I wanted ending clarification. No one's going to stop asking for it so some anonymous gamer on the internet can have their take back Omega.

[TuringPoint]

I think they made a pretty respectable compromise.  The only reason "wait and see" is a good idea is because you *might* be surprised that the ending actually works when properly explained.

If that's not good enough for you, go write some fan fiction.  Obviously that's what you wanted for an ending. 

I don't begrudge people wanting clarification, but I have no sympathy for those of you who want them to change the ending to the game completely.  I detest the very idea of doing that.  

However, I think it's ridiculous that anyone would have a problem with free DLC.  They aren't changing their plans for paid DLC, they may be putting it off later, but 'whatever.'  This is the last game in the series so they have an indefinite schedule for 'more stuff.'

Modifié par Alocormin, 09 avril 2012 - 05:30 .

[Sir Bum]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Immz wrote...

OozesAwesome wrote...

Immz,

I do believe you are one of the most annoying people on this forum. STFU. What do you want? Something spoon fed to you that is only acceptable if it makes YOU happy.

When you grow up you'll perhaps realize that this is a video game. It is all fantasy.

Your getting a free extension to the story, accept it and move on.

I've made clear what I want. Everybody has.

This is not just a video game, it's the finale to a trilogy that has costed people hundreds of dollars, time, devotion, and emotional investment. 

Maybe when you grow up you'll learn how to read posts properly, and maybe even understand why we're all so mad at Bioware's response (or lack thereof) to the fans.

and theres your problem.

"devotion"
"emotional investment"

in a video game ?????????

your problem isnt the game,its your mental state and what you invest emotions in.

most of us buy the games for entertainment,to us its just that...sporadic entertainment,its not a living breathing being or something you are supposed to invest emotions in.

thats supposed to be reserved for real life and people...NOT a video game

Would you say the same thing if ME was book, or a TV show, or a moive?

[Habs25]

Immz wrote...

  I don't believe you comprehend what's happened.

When the script was leaked and everybody freaked out because of how horrible it was, you said "Wait for it to come out before you complain! Bioware knows what they're doing!"

When the demo was released and everybody complained about the horrible animations and graphics, you said "Wait for the actual game to come out! It's JUST a demo it's not supposed to look good!"

And LOOK at what followed:
 - The story comes to the worst conclusion in any video game series
 - The final game is riddled with horrible animations, sprites, and horrible textures.

We waited, and our worst nightmares came true. 

So now with DLC coming out that clearly states that it will not change a single thing about the absolutely disgusting ending, everybody is up in arms because Bioware is completely ignoring everything we have put forward to them.

While we're trying to force Bioware's hand in actually FIXING their own game that they slaughtered in front of our very eyes, you have the audacity to tell us to simply wait, trust, and (god forbid) have faith in Bioware that they'll actually construct something decent out of expanding the ending that, once again, took the entire Mass Effect trilogy and drove it into the ground, you insist that we sit idly by and let this atrocity happen.

No. Enough is enough. We've waited. We've "reserved" our judgment until release too many times to have any faith left in this company. So no, we're not just going to sit back, shut up, and let Bioware squeeze out another insulting abomination on our faces like they have several times.

No. You're crying about the last 10 minutes of a great game, 10 minutes which are being addressed to ameloriate the situation. You have no idea what is in the extended cut or how it will be, but you know it's free, an olive branch many willingly ignore because they choose to be miserable over a game, haha, just like they conveniently call it art when it is expedient but deny it to suit their purposes. The demo was bad? It was ok, but its a demo, the full game can't compare to that. Trilogy driven into the ground? That's an exaggeration to put it lightly. The real atrocity is that there a still a few people complaining 24/7 over something that they can't even control, just stop making yourselves miserable and move on or wait to play the DLC, it's that simple. People come to these forums to talk about Mass Effect, not to listen to the same people whine about the ending, the horse is dead and kicking it won't wake the poor horse up. I feel sorry for all of you who can't play anymore because of the ending, but let it go or wait for the one. As it stands, it will address what was missing. Hopefully this kind of reaction from a few gamers won't stop developers from trying to be bold. Bioware tried and largely succeeded, and they probably had this extension planned but had run out of time to put in the full game. You get 2 free DLC's announced in one week and still all some people do is whine... jeeeesus....

[MichaelSD]

There is nothing to wait for. We will get an explained bad ending, instead of unexplained bad ending.

Oh, and the differences between the endings were minimals, close to none. It is fair to say, there was no difference.

[Dragoonlordz]

Habs25 wrote...

Immz wrote...

  I don't believe you comprehend what's happened.

When the script was leaked and everybody freaked out because of how horrible it was, you said "Wait for it to come out before you complain! Bioware knows what they're doing!"

When the demo was released and everybody complained about the horrible animations and graphics, you said "Wait for the actual game to come out! It's JUST a demo it's not supposed to look good!"

And LOOK at what followed:
 - The story comes to the worst conclusion in any video game series
 - The final game is riddled with horrible animations, sprites, and horrible textures.

We waited, and our worst nightmares came true. 

So now with DLC coming out that clearly states that it will not change a single thing about the absolutely disgusting ending, everybody is up in arms because Bioware is completely ignoring everything we have put forward to them.

While we're trying to force Bioware's hand in actually FIXING their own game that they slaughtered in front of our very eyes, you have the audacity to tell us to simply wait, trust, and (god forbid) have faith in Bioware that they'll actually construct something decent out of expanding the ending that, once again, took the entire Mass Effect trilogy and drove it into the ground, you insist that we sit idly by and let this atrocity happen.

No. Enough is enough. We've waited. We've "reserved" our judgment until release too many times to have any faith left in this company. So no, we're not just going to sit back, shut up, and let Bioware squeeze out another insulting abomination on our faces like they have several times.

No. You're crying about the last 10 minutes of a great game, 10 minutes which are being addressed to ameloriate the situation. You have no idea what is in the extended cut or how it will be, but you know it's free, an olive branch many willingly ignore because they choose to be miserable over a game, haha, just like they conveniently call it art when it is expedient but deny it to suit their purposes. The demo was bad? It was ok, but its a demo, the full game can't compare to that. Trilogy driven into the ground? That's an exaggeration to put it lightly. The real atrocity is that there a still a few people complaining 24/7 over something that they can't even control, just stop making yourselves miserable and move on or wait to play the DLC, it's that simple. People come to these forums to talk about Mass Effect, not to listen to the same people whine about the ending, the horse is dead and kicking it won't wake the poor horse up. I feel sorry for all of you who can't play anymore because of the ending, but let it go or wait for the one. As it stands, it will address what was missing. Hopefully this kind of reaction from a few gamers won't stop developers from trying to be bold. Bioware tried and largely succeeded, and they probably had this extension planned but had run out of time to put in the full game. You get 2 free DLC's announced in one week and still all some people do is whine... jeeeesus....

I agree. Glad more and more people are applying common sense and rationality to this topic.

[xsdob]

Your point of judging things that we cannot even physically perceive yet sounds like a great idea.

Let me try, I'm calling on all of you here to denounce the new Iphone 7, it is an abomination to ask users to type in their social security numbers just to access email, and the surgical implants needed for directly interface with the holographic display is an intrusive process that violates people rights to privacy!

Don't let apple deceive you! They lied about Siri not being an AI spybot program. They lied about their monthly rates! They lied in saying they wouldn't create this phone only a few months after the launch of the Iphone 6! The time to wait is over, now is the time for action!