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[ReaperDominator]

SLana wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

also while im here im not quite sure where your getting the impression that every one is 'so mad about biowares response' I for one do not feel this way and i am just grateful that they are trying to address the issue....other developers would have told you to deal with it and that the end was the end.

Yeah that's just great. Looks kinda like "They hate our endings? Let's give them more of it!" Like somebody said in some other thread, they try to cure cancer by expanding it.

I think we can agree that the current 'ending's' really are ****, but that said Bio have listened to their fans and are trying to address it, if however you're right and this DLC is just an act of vengeful spite, then I know i wont be the only one who will never be buying a bioware game again 

[Immz]

Harshfact wrote...

SLana wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

also while im here im not quite sure where your getting the impression that every one is 'so mad about biowares response' I for one do not feel this way and i am just grateful that they are trying to address the issue....other developers would have told you to deal with it and that the end was the end.

Yeah that's just great. Looks kinda like "They hate our endings? Let's give them more of it!" Like somebody said in some other thread, they try to cure cancer by expanding it.

That's not very true i have seen people claiming to want more closure and explianation on post-endings, so don't try to make it as a fact that everyone hated the endings

No, it is. Everyone who actually cared about Mass Effect's lore and story hated the endings. Literally everyone. I don't believe a single person actually wanted this ending expanded, they wanted change, or at the least Bioware to admit that they ruinned their own series.

[Sebbe1337o]

When even Bethesda is better than Bioware, you know something is wrong.

People weren't happy with the ending of Fallout 3, so bethesda said "Okay, we f*cked up, we'll change it", which they did. And it got A LOT better.

[AJRimmsey]

Immz wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Immz wrote...

OozesAwesome wrote...

Immz,

I do believe you are one of the most annoying people on this forum. STFU. What do you want? Something spoon fed to you that is only acceptable if it makes YOU happy.

When you grow up you'll perhaps realize that this is a video game. It is all fantasy.

Your getting a free extension to the story, accept it and move on.

I've made clear what I want. Everybody has.

This is not just a video game, it's the finale to a trilogy that has costed people hundreds of dollars, time, devotion, and emotional investment. 

Maybe when you grow up you'll learn how to read posts properly, and maybe even understand why we're all so mad at Bioware's response (or lack thereof) to the fans.

and theres your problem.

"devotion"
"emotional investment"

in a video game ?????????

your problem isnt the game,its your mental state and what you invest emotions in.

most of us buy the games for entertainment,to us its just that...sporadic entertainment,its not a living breathing being or something you are supposed to invest emotions in.

thats supposed to be reserved for real life and people...NOT a video game

My mental state is in question here because I care about this game? Honestly? It's now bad to actually be effected by a story you craft yourself?

When you get immersed in a story to the point of feeling emotions while you experience it, then that story is good, video game or not. Have you ever seen a really good movie, one that moved you and drove you to tears in certain scenes? Multiply that by about 100 hours, and you get Mass Effect. The whole POINT of the game is to immerse yourself and care about what happens to the charaters and universe.

For all of that to be ripped to shreds unreparably is upsetting.

Being upset because of that does not mean I'm mentally unfit to play video games. In no way.

yes actually it does.

i dont expect you to see that,as you are the afflicted,but if this is the state you are in now,over a 5 minute part of a video game,later life is going to be hell.

[Immz]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Immz wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

Immz wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

As I recall, they actually made changes to the ending based on feedback from that leaked script. The fanbase more or less got what it asked for.

We asked for our choices to matter. 

Not one person can say with a straight face that this is the ending that they wanted.

Our choices did matter. Perhaps not in the way you wanted, but they did matter in what options you were presented with in the ending. If you did really bad, you won't even get a choice in the ending. You'll stop the Reapers but torch Earth in the process.

Yes, your choices being reflected by war assets is still your choices mattering. Is it optimal? Perhaps not. But they did not lie on that point.

You're not getting it. Why are you possibly defending them?

You seriously think that all of these 'heavy choices' that we made throughout the series should be handled as a tiny little number in the gigantic climactic finale? You're so bogged down with semantics. Technically, we weren't lied to, our choices add either +25, or +0 to the final battle. They merely took everything from the first two games, reduced it to dust, and said "BUT THEY STILL MATTER SEE THAT NUMBER? IT'S HIGHER NOW. LOOK JACK GAVE YOU 25 ASSETS!"

Our choices boiled down to one ending with slightly different hues.

If you think that's what we asked for, hoped for, invested all this time into the series for, and then think that Bioware's actually completely in the right for it, I apologize on your behalf. It must be horrible not being passionate about anything.

I know.

Just like the Mass Effect 1 and 2 endings...it's such a crime that our choices boiled down to something like that! 

Considering the first two games were building up to the finale with all the choices you were making mattering in the end, yes. Yes it is.

[SLana]

Harshfact wrote...

SLana wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

also while im here im not quite sure where your getting the impression that every one is 'so mad about biowares response' I for one do not feel this way and i am just grateful that they are trying to address the issue....other developers would have told you to deal with it and that the end was the end.

Yeah that's just great. Looks kinda like "They hate our endings? Let's give them more of it!" Like somebody said in some other thread, they try to cure cancer by expanding it.

That's not very true i have seen people claiming to want more closure and explianation on post-endings, so don't try to make it as a fact that everyone hated the endings

I didn't say everyone. You may search for polls btw and you will see that more people here on forums want changes, not closure. The first one.  Or this one.

[RukiaKuchki]

OozesAwesome wrote...

Immz,

I do believe you are one of the most annoying people on this forum. STFU. What do you want? Something spoon fed to you that is only acceptable if it makes YOU happy.

When you grow up you'll perhaps realize that this is a video game. It is all fantasy.

Your getting a free extension to the story, accept it and move on.

Agree 100%.

If something makes you so unhappy, so angry, so desperate, so obnoxious... and that 'something' is a videogame...it really is time to move on. In the grand scheme of things, 100 hours is not a lot of time. Let it go. Let your blood pressure return to normal. You will live longer.

[djspectre]

First off, there is a patch coming that may address some of the technical issues numerous fans have complained about.

Second, the fact that it sounds like we're getting a proper epilogue is also promising.

Third, we should at least be happy that this Extended Cut DLC is free. Many feared BioWare might charge for it, but didn't. Broken Steel for Fallout 3 wasn't free. (correct me if I'm wrong please!).

Fourth, I wasn't so pissed at the ending, I was more mad at the plot holes. Hopefully the additional cut scenes will fill those holes.

Beyond that, I'm looking forward to it, sucks that we have to wait till summer, but it takes time to develop new cut scenes.

Lastly, I feel positive about this DLC.

Thank you BioWare.

[Mazebook]

Immz wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

thedosbox wrote...

Some people really need to get a life.

Yeah... people like you who post about how others need to get a life and decide to troll them and insult them.
Join the discussion with constructive arguments/talk, don't just sit there and mock people with such arrogance.

Don´t you think this whole thing gotten to a point where its time to reflect and maybe set new prioritys and move on ?
If you feel so betrayed and hurt by bioware, why come back ? Its clear that they want to go in a diffrent direction than you do. Maybe ask yourself, what do i get from all this...?!

Ask yourself this, what do YOU get from sitting here and telling us to leave?

Moreover, why are you even here?

thedosbox wrote...

Immz wrote...

thedosbox wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

thedosbox wrote...

Some people really need to get a life.

Like people who hang out on videogame forums telling other people to get a life? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Yeah, those same people who feel that their special snowflake's take on the ending deserves it's own thread.  Despite it being the same recycled arguments as every other thread. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/ninja.png[/smilie]

And why do we do that? Oh, that's right, because some people still don't get it.

Stamping your feet and screaming the same thing over and over?  Yeah, that's a "discussion" worth participating in.

 
Right, I'm not trying to elicit a dialogue out of you.

I'm pointing out to all those people spamming every thread with "JUST WAIT AND SEE GOD HAVE FAITH" why we have every right to complain now, before it's released. In the hope that something gets DONE. If you wish to sit there and tell me that I'm doing nothing, consider that you're doing no better.

Why are you in this thread? I'd actually like to know. To tell people to stop posting the same topic? By doing that you bump my topic up, and give it more views and thusly more posts. If you think this topic doesn't belong here, report it. What do you gain by posting against me?

Why I am here?
To show people a different perspective on these Issues because I believe they are acting irrational and fanatic. Bioware is not going to do what you want them to. But you still argue with them and rallying others against them.
What do you get from all this...?! Whats your point? What are you trying to achieve?

[Immz]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Immz wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Immz wrote...

OozesAwesome wrote...

Immz,

I do believe you are one of the most annoying people on this forum. STFU. What do you want? Something spoon fed to you that is only acceptable if it makes YOU happy.

When you grow up you'll perhaps realize that this is a video game. It is all fantasy.

Your getting a free extension to the story, accept it and move on.

I've made clear what I want. Everybody has.

This is not just a video game, it's the finale to a trilogy that has costed people hundreds of dollars, time, devotion, and emotional investment. 

Maybe when you grow up you'll learn how to read posts properly, and maybe even understand why we're all so mad at Bioware's response (or lack thereof) to the fans.

and theres your problem.

"devotion"
"emotional investment"

in a video game ?????????

your problem isnt the game,its your mental state and what you invest emotions in.

most of us buy the games for entertainment,to us its just that...sporadic entertainment,its not a living breathing being or something you are supposed to invest emotions in.

thats supposed to be reserved for real life and people...NOT a video game

My mental state is in question here because I care about this game? Honestly? It's now bad to actually be effected by a story you craft yourself?

When you get immersed in a story to the point of feeling emotions while you experience it, then that story is good, video game or not. Have you ever seen a really good movie, one that moved you and drove you to tears in certain scenes? Multiply that by about 100 hours, and you get Mass Effect. The whole POINT of the game is to immerse yourself and care about what happens to the charaters and universe.

For all of that to be ripped to shreds unreparably is upsetting.

Being upset because of that does not mean I'm mentally unfit to play video games. In no way.

yes actually it does.

i dont expect you to see that,as you are the afflicted,but if this is the state you are in now,over a 5 minute part of a video game,later life is going to be hell.

Alright, you go pay two hundred dollars to watch a hundred hour long film only for the ending to be completely unrelated to the movie you watched, and making that entire experience empty with no meaning, go ahead and walk out of that theater and say "Welp! Life goes on! I can't wait for the sequel!"

You're a troll.

[LinksOcarina]

Immz wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Immz wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

Immz wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

As I recall, they actually made changes to the ending based on feedback from that leaked script. The fanbase more or less got what it asked for.

We asked for our choices to matter. 

Not one person can say with a straight face that this is the ending that they wanted.

Our choices did matter. Perhaps not in the way you wanted, but they did matter in what options you were presented with in the ending. If you did really bad, you won't even get a choice in the ending. You'll stop the Reapers but torch Earth in the process.

Yes, your choices being reflected by war assets is still your choices mattering. Is it optimal? Perhaps not. But they did not lie on that point.

You're not getting it. Why are you possibly defending them?

You seriously think that all of these 'heavy choices' that we made throughout the series should be handled as a tiny little number in the gigantic climactic finale? You're so bogged down with semantics. Technically, we weren't lied to, our choices add either +25, or +0 to the final battle. They merely took everything from the first two games, reduced it to dust, and said "BUT THEY STILL MATTER SEE THAT NUMBER? IT'S HIGHER NOW. LOOK JACK GAVE YOU 25 ASSETS!"

Our choices boiled down to one ending with slightly different hues.

If you think that's what we asked for, hoped for, invested all this time into the series for, and then think that Bioware's actually completely in the right for it, I apologize on your behalf. It must be horrible not being passionate about anything.

I know.

Just like the Mass Effect 1 and 2 endings...it's such a crime that our choices boiled down to something like that! 

Considering the first two games were building up to the finale with all the choices you were making mattering in the end, yes. Yes it is.

Actually if that is the case, then Mass Effect 3 should be an instant classic.

The first two games built up choices that mattered while playing the game. So you got what you wanted really! Hell, it resolved a lot of ongoing plot threads better than most RPGs out there.

Fact of the matter is, the endings to all three games showcase a problem, choice is an illusion in Mass Effect. No matter what you do, you will always save or kill the council. No matter what you do, you will either survive the suicide mission with everyone, or with missing people, or not. No matter what you do, you need to make a choice at the end of Mass Effect 3.

You are kidding yourself if the choices didn't matter. They did, you just didn't like the last one in the end. 

[tobiasks]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Immz wrote...

OozesAwesome wrote...

Immz,

I do believe you are one of the most annoying people on this forum. STFU. What do you want? Something spoon fed to you that is only acceptable if it makes YOU happy.

When you grow up you'll perhaps realize that this is a video game. It is all fantasy.

Your getting a free extension to the story, accept it and move on.

I've made clear what I want. Everybody has.

This is not just a video game, it's the finale to a trilogy that has costed people hundreds of dollars, time, devotion, and emotional investment. 

Maybe when you grow up you'll learn how to read posts properly, and maybe even understand why we're all so mad at Bioware's response (or lack thereof) to the fans.

and theres your problem.

"devotion"
"emotional investment"

in a video game ?????????

your problem isnt the game,its your mental state and what you invest emotions in.

most of us buy the games for entertainment,to us its just that...sporadic entertainment,its not a living breathing being or something you are supposed to invest emotions in.

thats supposed to be reserved for real life and people...NOT a video game

Oh god..

[Immz]

maaaze wrote...

Immz wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

thedosbox wrote...

Some people really need to get a life.

Yeah... people like you who post about how others need to get a life and decide to troll them and insult them.
Join the discussion with constructive arguments/talk, don't just sit there and mock people with such arrogance.

Don´t you think this whole thing gotten to a point where its time to reflect and maybe set new prioritys and move on ?
If you feel so betrayed and hurt by bioware, why come back ? Its clear that they want to go in a diffrent direction than you do. Maybe ask yourself, what do i get from all this...?!

Ask yourself this, what do YOU get from sitting here and telling us to leave?

Moreover, why are you even here?

thedosbox wrote...

Immz wrote...

thedosbox wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

thedosbox wrote...

Some people really need to get a life.

Like people who hang out on videogame forums telling other people to get a life? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Yeah, those same people who feel that their special snowflake's take on the ending deserves it's own thread.  Despite it being the same recycled arguments as every other thread. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/ninja.png[/smilie]

And why do we do that? Oh, that's right, because some people still don't get it.

Stamping your feet and screaming the same thing over and over?  Yeah, that's a "discussion" worth participating in.

 
Right, I'm not trying to elicit a dialogue out of you.

I'm pointing out to all those people spamming every thread with "JUST WAIT AND SEE GOD HAVE FAITH" why we have every right to complain now, before it's released. In the hope that something gets DONE. If you wish to sit there and tell me that I'm doing nothing, consider that you're doing no better.

Why are you in this thread? I'd actually like to know. To tell people to stop posting the same topic? By doing that you bump my topic up, and give it more views and thusly more posts. If you think this topic doesn't belong here, report it. What do you gain by posting against me?

Why I am here?
To show people a different perspective on these Issues because I believe they are acting irrational and fanatic. Bioware is not going to do what you want them to. But you still argue with them and rallying others against them.
What do you get from all this...?! Whats your point? What are you trying to achieve?

I believe that if you read this thread you will have those answers, as I've explicity stated them several times by now.

[SLana]

AJRimmsey wrote...
yes actually it does.

i dont expect you to see that,as you are the afflicted,but if this is the state you are in now,over a 5 minute part of a video game,later life is going to be hell.

You obviously don't read books and know nothing about empathy. Well you can read here what empathy has to do with Mass Effect. And who are you to judge people btw?

[Vipala]

i do not need to wait to judge. It is already great

[wright1978]

Look i agree with Forbes in that this is a victory. It may not be the complete victory we wanted. However you take the victory you get and try and pressure to ensure it is all it can be. Bioware have made their decision.

[Foryou]

Immz wrote...

  I don't believe you comprehend what's happened.

When the script was leaked and everybody freaked out because of how horrible it was, you said "Wait for it to come out before you complain! Bioware knows what they're doing!"

When the demo was released and everybody complained about the horrible animations and graphics, you said "Wait for the actual game to come out! It's JUST a demo it's not supposed to look good!"

And LOOK at what followed:
 - The story comes to the worst conclusion in any video game series
 - The final game is riddled with horrible animations, sprites, and horrible textures.

We waited, and our worst nightmares came true. 

So now with DLC coming out that clearly states that it will not change a single thing about the absolutely disgusting ending, everybody is up in arms because Bioware is completely ignoring everything we have put forward to them.

While we're trying to force Bioware's hand in actually FIXING their own game that they slaughtered in front of our very eyes, you have the audacity to tell us to simply wait, trust, and (god forbid) have faith in Bioware that they'll actually construct something decent out of expanding the ending that, once again, took the entire Mass Effect trilogy and drove it into the ground, you insist that we sit idly by and let this atrocity happen.

No. Enough is enough. We've waited. We've "reserved" our judgment until release too many times to have any faith left in this company. So no, we're not just going to sit back, shut up, and let Bioware squeeze out another insulting abomination on our faces like they have several times.

STOP TELLING ME HOW TO FEEL. All you trolls do  now a days is preach to the goddamn choir, and those who don't listen. So stop with your selfrightousness

[The man of myth]

Immz wrote...

  I don't believe you comprehend what's happened.

When the script was leaked and everybody freaked out because of how horrible it was, you said "Wait for it to come out before you complain! Bioware knows what they're doing!"

When the demo was released and everybody complained about the horrible animations and graphics, you said "Wait for the actual game to come out! It's JUST a demo it's not supposed to look good!"

And LOOK at what followed:
 - The story comes to the worst conclusion in any video game series
 - The final game is riddled with horrible animations, sprites, and horrible textures.

We waited, and our worst nightmares came true. 

So now with DLC coming out that clearly states that it will not change a single thing about the absolutely disgusting ending, everybody is up in arms because Bioware is completely ignoring everything we have put forward to them.

While we're trying to force Bioware's hand in actually FIXING their own game that they slaughtered in front of our very eyes, you have the audacity to tell us to simply wait, trust, and (god forbid) have faith in Bioware that they'll actually construct something decent out of expanding the ending that, once again, took the entire Mass Effect trilogy and drove it into the ground, you insist that we sit idly by and let this atrocity happen.

No. Enough is enough. We've waited. We've "reserved" our judgment until release too many times to have any faith left in this company. So no, we're not just going to sit back, shut up, and let Bioware squeeze out another insulting abomination on our faces like they have several times.

Thank you for explaining this to stupid old us!! Get bent! You guys are a bunch of Drama Queens. This is not a significant problem in Life. If you don't agree then you do not have one.

[AJRimmsey]

Immz wrote...

Alright, you go pay two hundred dollars to watch a hundred hour long film only for the ending to be completely unrelated to the movie you watched, and making that entire experience empty with no meaning, go ahead and walk out of that theater and say "Welp! Life goes on! I can't wait for the sequel!"

You're a troll.

and there it is

the point where the mentally ill compare 2 things that dont bear comparison,and then resort to insults.

video gaming is not for you.

like drinking alcohol is not for me

heroine is not for junkies

and sex is not for women who dont want kids

you just need to seek help,i am sure you have therapists near you,go explain your problem and see if he/she sends you away telling you its normal behaviour.

[mauro2222]

AJRimmsey wrote...

yes actually it does.

i dont expect you to see that,as you are the afflicted,but if this is the state you are in now,over a 5 minute part of a video game,later life is going to be hell.

You didn't connect with the characters or the universe like us. You don't react, we do.

Some people don't even flich when their fathers die, yet they cry when a friend dies. Different lifes, different connections to people. Fiction does not change this, because a story is being told, and you start to see yourself in the characters, involved in their world, you care for them. You can't measure the future reactions or emotions of someone by seeing if he does react or not to a fictional character, that's just you, trying to find something to feel superior.

Modifié par mauro2222, 05 avril 2012 - 11:23 .

[Immz]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Immz wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Immz wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

Immz wrote...

Erixxxx wrote...

As I recall, they actually made changes to the ending based on feedback from that leaked script. The fanbase more or less got what it asked for.

We asked for our choices to matter. 

Not one person can say with a straight face that this is the ending that they wanted.

Our choices did matter. Perhaps not in the way you wanted, but they did matter in what options you were presented with in the ending. If you did really bad, you won't even get a choice in the ending. You'll stop the Reapers but torch Earth in the process.

Yes, your choices being reflected by war assets is still your choices mattering. Is it optimal? Perhaps not. But they did not lie on that point.

You're not getting it. Why are you possibly defending them?

You seriously think that all of these 'heavy choices' that we made throughout the series should be handled as a tiny little number in the gigantic climactic finale? You're so bogged down with semantics. Technically, we weren't lied to, our choices add either +25, or +0 to the final battle. They merely took everything from the first two games, reduced it to dust, and said "BUT THEY STILL MATTER SEE THAT NUMBER? IT'S HIGHER NOW. LOOK JACK GAVE YOU 25 ASSETS!"

Our choices boiled down to one ending with slightly different hues.

If you think that's what we asked for, hoped for, invested all this time into the series for, and then think that Bioware's actually completely in the right for it, I apologize on your behalf. It must be horrible not being passionate about anything.

I know.

Just like the Mass Effect 1 and 2 endings...it's such a crime that our choices boiled down to something like that! 

Considering the first two games were building up to the finale with all the choices you were making mattering in the end, yes. Yes it is.

Actually if that is the case, then Mass Effect 3 should be an instant classic.

The first two games built up choices that mattered while playing the game. So you got what you wanted really! Hell, it resolved a lot of ongoing plot threads better than most RPGs out there.

Fact of the matter is, the endings to all three games showcase a problem, choice is an illusion in Mass Effect. No matter what you do, you will always save or kill the council. No matter what you do, you will either survive the suicide mission with everyone, or with missing people, or not. No matter what you do, you need to make a choice at the end of Mass Effect 3.

You are kidding yourself if the choices didn't matter. They did, you just didn't like the last one in the end. 

Those choices in the end were there to have consequence later on, not just at the one moment. The choices I made in the first game didn't matter in the first game. I JUST made them! They were supposed to all come together to create a story that I, the consumer, made. To see how each different choice had an impact in the end. It didn't happen. We got no closure.

[ReaperDominator]

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

SLana wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

also while im here im not quite sure where your getting the impression that every one is 'so mad about biowares response' I for one do not feel this way and i am just grateful that they are trying to address the issue....other developers would have told you to deal with it and that the end was the end.

Yeah that's just great. Looks kinda like "They hate our endings? Let's give them more of it!" Like somebody said in some other thread, they try to cure cancer by expanding it.

That's not very true i have seen people claiming to want more closure and explianation on post-endings, so don't try to make it as a fact that everyone hated the endings

No, it is. Everyone who actually cared about Mass Effect's lore and story hated the endings. Literally everyone. I don't believe a single person actually wanted this ending expanded, they wanted change, or at the least Bioware to admit that they ruinned their own series.

...I'm pretty sure that this DLC IS Bio's way of saying they mucked up the ending and now they are trying to amend it....or have you ignored that factor...and also I am a HUUUUGE fan of this series and the ending made me pretty angry but  just because my opinion differs from yours regarding bio's response it doesnt make you right, or allow you to say EVERYONE else is wrong. BOOM

[Immz]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Immz wrote...

Alright, you go pay two hundred dollars to watch a hundred hour long film only for the ending to be completely unrelated to the movie you watched, and making that entire experience empty with no meaning, go ahead and walk out of that theater and say "Welp! Life goes on! I can't wait for the sequel!"

You're a troll.

and there it is

the point where the mentally ill compare 2 things that dont bear comparison,and then resort to insults.

video gaming is not for you.

like drinking alcohol is not for me

heroine is not for junkies

and sex is not for women who dont want kids

you just need to seek help,i am sure you have therapists near you,go explain your problem and see if he/she sends you away telling you its normal behaviour.

I'll make sure to seek help for my 'having actual emotions' problem.

[LinksOcarina]

Immz wrote...

Those choices in the end were there to have consequence later on, not just at the one moment. The choices I made in the first game didn't matter in the first game. I JUST made them! They were supposed to all come together to create a story that I, the consumer, made. To see how each different choice had an impact in the end. It didn't happen. We got no closure.

True, some of the choices did have consequences later on.

But, they came together in the end. If you played the game, you cannot deny that. So the problem again, lies with your disgust over the final choice.

And considering the entire point of this dlc is to showcase more stuff in the end to give closure and to make it make sense, you should not be complaining.

[Harshfact]

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Cant complain...bio cant please everyone.....at the end of the day new dlc is free....no one is making you spend your money on it and you dont even have to down load it if you dont want...take a chill pill

Just because it's free doesn't mean anything. Many of us have said that we would pay for a better ending than keep the one we have for free. It's a non-argument.

I care about this game. Anybody who does would understand our frustration.

I'm just curious, how would you want the ending to happen ? besides" no closure, plotholes etc.." how would you have preffered it to end ? just from the top of your head give me a few ideas that sounds better than the ending we've got

You already got one! Why have you ignored it twice?

http://i.imgur.com/JhtqY.jpg 

Sorry didn't see that but you do realsie that in those scenarios NONe of the choices fro mthe previous game matter right ? also Shepard coming out alive, jsut cheapens the whole Reaper threat IMO .. i could write a few more reasons about that alternative... i do not however disagee that had those factors been cosidered it would have been awesome