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[Khayness]

Yeah, we said Dragon Age 2's dev cycle was too short and 7 gigs smelled fishy, I don't remember exactly how it turned out, only vague images of the same 5 ****ing rooms are coming back to me.

The fan's clairevoyance skills truly suck.

Modifié par Khayness, 05 avril 2012 - 11:26 .

[ReaperDominator]

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Cant complain...bio cant please everyone.....at the end of the day new dlc is free....no one is making you spend your money on it and you dont even have to down load it if you dont want...take a chill pill

Just because it's free doesn't mean anything. Many of us have said that we would pay for a better ending than keep the one we have for free. It's a non-argument.

I care about this game. Anybody who does would understand our frustration.

I'm just curious, how would you want the ending to happen ? besides" no closure, plotholes etc.." how would you have preffered it to end ? just from the top of your head give me a few ideas that sounds better than the ending we've got

You already got one! Why have you ignored it twice?

http://i.imgur.com/JhtqY.jpg 

Sorry didn't see that but you do realsie that in those scenarios NONe of the choices fro mthe previous game matter right ? also Shepard coming out alive, jsut cheapens the whole Reaper threat IMO .. i could write a few more reasons about that alternative... i do not however disagee that had those factors been cosidered it would have been awesome

agreed

[OozesAwesome]

Can we please have a mod lock this forum? It's off track, or at least is being driven by a lunatic.

Immz, it's obvious you don't understand the ending. Play it again, think hard about it, then perhaps you'll get it.

Stop already, and no you don't need to reply just to prove your point.....but I'm sure you will.

[Immz]

ReaperDominator wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

SLana wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

also while im here im not quite sure where your getting the impression that every one is 'so mad about biowares response' I for one do not feel this way and i am just grateful that they are trying to address the issue....other developers would have told you to deal with it and that the end was the end.

Yeah that's just great. Looks kinda like "They hate our endings? Let's give them more of it!" Like somebody said in some other thread, they try to cure cancer by expanding it.

That's not very true i have seen people claiming to want more closure and explianation on post-endings, so don't try to make it as a fact that everyone hated the endings

No, it is. Everyone who actually cared about Mass Effect's lore and story hated the endings. Literally everyone. I don't believe a single person actually wanted this ending expanded, they wanted change, or at the least Bioware to admit that they ruinned their own series.

...I'm pretty sure that this DLC IS Bio's way of saying they mucked up the ending and now they are trying to amend it....or have you ignored that factor...and also I am a HUUUUGE fan of this series and the ending made me pretty angry but  just because my opinion differs from yours regarding bio's response it doesnt make you right, or allow you to say EVERYONE else is wrong. BOOM

They're not saying they mucked up the ending. They're PROUD of the ending. Have you not read their official statement? They're trying to pacify us for being so discontent with their artistic mastery, that they're giving us a cinematic, that will only expand on the plot-hole riddled, lore ruining ending.

They're very much proud.

[Immz]

ReaperDominator wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Cant complain...bio cant please everyone.....at the end of the day new dlc is free....no one is making you spend your money on it and you dont even have to down load it if you dont want...take a chill pill

Just because it's free doesn't mean anything. Many of us have said that we would pay for a better ending than keep the one we have for free. It's a non-argument.

I care about this game. Anybody who does would understand our frustration.

I'm just curious, how would you want the ending to happen ? besides" no closure, plotholes etc.." how would you have preffered it to end ? just from the top of your head give me a few ideas that sounds better than the ending we've got

You already got one! Why have you ignored it twice?

http://i.imgur.com/JhtqY.jpg 

Sorry didn't see that but you do realsie that in those scenarios NONe of the choices fro mthe previous game matter right ? also Shepard coming out alive, jsut cheapens the whole Reaper threat IMO .. i could write a few more reasons about that alternative... i do not however disagee that had those factors been cosidered it would have been awesome

agreed

It should not be up to us to construct better endings than the developers. We trusted them to do that, and they spat in the face of the entire series.

It was their job to tie up all the loose ends and give their fans closure to the last entry in a trilogy. What they gave us left us with nothing but anger and a feeling of betrayal.

[Sebbe1337o]

I've invested a lot of emotions in this franchise too. I'm truly heartbroked about what's happened.

[Oni Changas]

Immz, I agree, but at this time, it is best to not dignify those who liked the RGB cutscenes with any sort of response. Many are trolls anyways. I'm not about to give up or sit idly, however I am going to reserve all judgement until we get something tangible. A polished turd DLC ain't sitting well with me.

[ReaperDominator]

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

SLana wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

also while im here im not quite sure where your getting the impression that every one is 'so mad about biowares response' I for one do not feel this way and i am just grateful that they are trying to address the issue....other developers would have told you to deal with it and that the end was the end.

Yeah that's just great. Looks kinda like "They hate our endings? Let's give them more of it!" Like somebody said in some other thread, they try to cure cancer by expanding it.

That's not very true i have seen people claiming to want more closure and explianation on post-endings, so don't try to make it as a fact that everyone hated the endings

No, it is. Everyone who actually cared about Mass Effect's lore and story hated the endings. Literally everyone. I don't believe a single person actually wanted this ending expanded, they wanted change, or at the least Bioware to admit that they ruinned their own series.

...I'm pretty sure that this DLC IS Bio's way of saying they mucked up the ending and now they are trying to amend it....or have you ignored that factor...and also I am a HUUUUGE fan of this series and the ending made me pretty angry but  just because my opinion differs from yours regarding bio's response it doesnt make you right, or allow you to say EVERYONE else is wrong. BOOM

They're not saying they mucked up the ending. They're PROUD of the ending. Have you not read their official statement? They're trying to pacify us for being so discontent with their artistic mastery, that they're giving us a cinematic, that will only expand on the plot-hole riddled, lore ruining ending.

They're very much proud.

AGAIN i say...just because its your opinion doesn't make it right....If they didnt think they'd gone wrong with the ending then they would leave it as it is and we wouldnt be having this conversation...its evident that you haven't got any valid points of argument and are just some one who has invested too much 'emotion' and 'devotion' in this game and should probably try going outside a bit more???

[Immz]

OozesAwesome wrote...

Can we please have a mod lock this forum? It's off track, or at least is being driven by a lunatic.

Immz, it's obvious you don't understand the ending. Play it again, think hard about it, then perhaps you'll get it.

Stop already, and no you don't need to reply just to prove your point.....but I'm sure you will.

Oh god. Perhaps you can explain the ending so I can understand it? I don't need to point out the dozens of issues with it, that's been done to death. But I can definitely recommend you to some topics that illustrate why the ending is a huge heap of crap.

I am not a lunatic, stop trying to deface and insult me when I've made very clear points. Instead of refuting them, you say it's "too deep for me" as if you hold all the secrets.

Illustrate them for me, please. I don't want to be left out.

[Harshfact]

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Cant complain...bio cant please everyone.....at the end of the day new dlc is free....no one is making you spend your money on it and you dont even have to down load it if you dont want...take a chill pill

Just because it's free doesn't mean anything. Many of us have said that we would pay for a better ending than keep the one we have for free. It's a non-argument.

I care about this game. Anybody who does would understand our frustration.

I'm just curious, how would you want the ending to happen ? besides" no closure, plotholes etc.." how would you have preffered it to end ? just from the top of your head give me a few ideas that sounds better than the ending we've got

You already got one! Why have you ignored it twice?

http://i.imgur.com/JhtqY.jpg 

Sorry didn't see that but you do realsie that in those scenarios NONe of the choices fro mthe previous game matter right ? also Shepard coming out alive, jsut cheapens the whole Reaper threat IMO .. i could write a few more reasons about that alternative... i do not however disagee that had those factors been cosidered it would have been awesome

agreed

It should not be up to us to construct better endings than the developers. We trusted them to do that, and they spat in the face of the entire series.

It was their job to tie up all the loose ends and give their fans closure to the last entry in a trilogy. What they gave us left us with nothing but anger and a feeling of betrayal.

I can't think of any loose end besides one or two ... care to enlighten me ? 

[ReaperDominator]

OozesAwesome wrote...

Can we please have a mod lock this forum? It's off track, or at least is being driven by a lunatic.

Immz, it's obvious you don't understand the ending. Play it again, think hard about it, then perhaps you'll get it.

Stop already, and no you don't need to reply just to prove your point.....but I'm sure you will.

Pahahaha...this.

[Immz]

ReaperDominator wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

SLana wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

also while im here im not quite sure where your getting the impression that every one is 'so mad about biowares response' I for one do not feel this way and i am just grateful that they are trying to address the issue....other developers would have told you to deal with it and that the end was the end.

Yeah that's just great. Looks kinda like "They hate our endings? Let's give them more of it!" Like somebody said in some other thread, they try to cure cancer by expanding it.

That's not very true i have seen people claiming to want more closure and explianation on post-endings, so don't try to make it as a fact that everyone hated the endings

No, it is. Everyone who actually cared about Mass Effect's lore and story hated the endings. Literally everyone. I don't believe a single person actually wanted this ending expanded, they wanted change, or at the least Bioware to admit that they ruinned their own series.

...I'm pretty sure that this DLC IS Bio's way of saying they mucked up the ending and now they are trying to amend it....or have you ignored that factor...and also I am a HUUUUGE fan of this series and the ending made me pretty angry but  just because my opinion differs from yours regarding bio's response it doesnt make you right, or allow you to say EVERYONE else is wrong. BOOM

They're not saying they mucked up the ending. They're PROUD of the ending. Have you not read their official statement? They're trying to pacify us for being so discontent with their artistic mastery, that they're giving us a cinematic, that will only expand on the plot-hole riddled, lore ruining ending.

They're very much proud.

AGAIN i say...just because its your opinion doesn't make it right....If they didnt think they'd gone wrong with the ending then they would leave it as it is and we wouldnt be having this conversation...its evident that you haven't got any valid points of argument and are just some one who has invested too much 'emotion' and 'devotion' in this game and should probably try going outside a bit more???

Oh my goodness. They LITERALLY said that they are proud of their ending. You do not read.

[Immz]

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Cant complain...bio cant please everyone.....at the end of the day new dlc is free....no one is making you spend your money on it and you dont even have to down load it if you dont want...take a chill pill

Just because it's free doesn't mean anything. Many of us have said that we would pay for a better ending than keep the one we have for free. It's a non-argument.

I care about this game. Anybody who does would understand our frustration.

I'm just curious, how would you want the ending to happen ? besides" no closure, plotholes etc.." how would you have preffered it to end ? just from the top of your head give me a few ideas that sounds better than the ending we've got

You already got one! Why have you ignored it twice?

http://i.imgur.com/JhtqY.jpg 

Sorry didn't see that but you do realsie that in those scenarios NONe of the choices fro mthe previous game matter right ? also Shepard coming out alive, jsut cheapens the whole Reaper threat IMO .. i could write a few more reasons about that alternative... i do not however disagee that had those factors been cosidered it would have been awesome

agreed

It should not be up to us to construct better endings than the developers. We trusted them to do that, and they spat in the face of the entire series.

It was their job to tie up all the loose ends and give their fans closure to the last entry in a trilogy. What they gave us left us with nothing but anger and a feeling of betrayal.

I can't think of any loose end besides one or two ... care to enlighten me ? 

 

Watch.

[SLana]

Harshfact wrote...

Sorry didn't see that but you do realsie that in those scenarios NONe of the choices fro mthe previous game matter right ? also Shepard coming out alive, jsut cheapens the whole Reaper threat IMO .. i could write a few more reasons about that alternative... i do not however disagee that had those factors been cosidered it would have been awesome

More than half of the galaxy is in ruins, millions beings dead, and you say no death for one man cheapens the reaper threat? What really cheapens it - the illusion of choice. Why do you even believe this kid, who easily agrees to be destroyed just because an organic finally got to see him? When you see high voltage transformer do you really think this is a control panel of some sort? Or do you believe in green space magic that made Joker's hat glow too? 

Modifié par SLana, 05 avril 2012 - 11:35 .

[Immz]

Sebbe1337o wrote...

I've invested a lot of emotions in this franchise too. I'm truly heartbroked about what's happened.

It really does hurt. I loved these games to death. I always wanted to replay ME1 and ME2 just to see how things play out. I can't even look at my copy of ME3 anymore.

[-Skorpious-]

"Then" will be too late. If Bioware still cares about their fans, if we truly are co-authors, then we need to speak now if we want additional endings.

[AJRimmsey]

Immz wrote...

OozesAwesome wrote...

Can we please have a mod lock this forum? It's off track, or at least is being driven by a lunatic.

Immz, it's obvious you don't understand the ending. Play it again, think hard about it, then perhaps you'll get it.

Stop already, and no you don't need to reply just to prove your point.....but I'm sure you will.

Oh god. Perhaps you can explain the ending so I can understand it? I don't need to point out the dozens of issues with it, that's been done to death. But I can definitely recommend you to some topics that illustrate why the ending is a huge heap of crap.

I am not a lunatic, stop trying to deface and insult me when I've made very clear points. Instead of refuting them, you say it's "too deep for me" as if you hold all the secrets.

Illustrate them for me, please. I don't want to be left out.

why should we explain them to you ?

if you played the game and didnt see it for yourself then nothings but a dictated ending created by YOU will suffice.


look at it from a normal perspective...its a game,we out here cannot afford to develop our own so we buy others work and play those.

because we know >

WE DONT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO CREATE OUR OWN.

BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THIS WE ENJOY WHAT WE ARE SOLD,IF WE DONT LIKE THEM WE DONT BUY THEM,AND IT ENDS FOR US THERE.

[LinksOcarina]

-Skorpious- wrote...

"Then" will be too late. If Bioware still cares about their fans, if we truly are co-authors, then we need to speak now if we want additional endings.

You never were getting additional endings, the fact that they are deciding to alter the original ending is honestly more than what they can do, especially considering they own the product. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 05 avril 2012 - 11:38 .

[Immz]

AJRimmsey wrote...

Immz wrote...

OozesAwesome wrote...

Can we please have a mod lock this forum? It's off track, or at least is being driven by a lunatic.

Immz, it's obvious you don't understand the ending. Play it again, think hard about it, then perhaps you'll get it.

Stop already, and no you don't need to reply just to prove your point.....but I'm sure you will.

Oh god. Perhaps you can explain the ending so I can understand it? I don't need to point out the dozens of issues with it, that's been done to death. But I can definitely recommend you to some topics that illustrate why the ending is a huge heap of crap.

I am not a lunatic, stop trying to deface and insult me when I've made very clear points. Instead of refuting them, you say it's "too deep for me" as if you hold all the secrets.

Illustrate them for me, please. I don't want to be left out.

why should we explain them to you ?

if you played the game and didnt see it for yourself then nothings but a dictated ending created by YOU will suffice.


look at it from a normal perspective...its a game,we out here cannot afford to develop our own so we buy others work and play those.

because we know >

WE DONT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO CREATE OUR OWN.

BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THIS WE ENJOY WHAT WE ARE SOLD,IF WE DONT LIKE THEM WE DONT BUY THEM,AND IT ENDS FOR US THERE.

So you tell me I don't understand the ending, and when I ask for clarification, you tell me "no cuz if you didnt get it the first time you wont ever get it!"

You have no understanding of the ending if you can't even explain it. 

[The man of myth]

Immz, a little constructive criticism, no one here, especially no one from Bioware will take you seriously because you come across as a huge A-hole. Fix that and people may sympathize with your little plight.

[Oldbones2]

Immz wrote...

  I don't believe you comprehend what's happened.

When the script was leaked and everybody freaked out because of how horrible it was, you said "Wait for it to come out before you complain! Bioware knows what they're doing!"

When the demo was released and everybody complained about the horrible animations and graphics, you said "Wait for the actual game to come out! It's JUST a demo it's not supposed to look good!"

And LOOK at what followed:
 - The story comes to the worst conclusion in any video game series
 - The final game is riddled with horrible animations, sprites, and horrible textures.

We waited, and our worst nightmares came true. 

So now with DLC coming out that clearly states that it will not change a single thing about the absolutely disgusting ending, everybody is up in arms because Bioware is completely ignoring everything we have put forward to them.

While we're trying to force Bioware's hand in actually FIXING their own game that they slaughtered in front of our very eyes, you have the audacity to tell us to simply wait, trust, and (god forbid) have faith in Bioware that they'll actually construct something decent out of expanding the ending that, once again, took the entire Mass Effect trilogy and drove it into the ground, you insist that we sit idly by and let this atrocity happen.

No. Enough is enough. We've waited. We've "reserved" our judgment until release too many times to have any faith left in this company. So no, we're not just going to sit back, shut up, and let Bioware squeeze out another insulting abomination on our faces like they have several times.

I'm right there with you, but at this point what else can we do?

We've made ourselves heard, we told them we aren't satisfied.  They 'heard' us and made their decision.  At this point, Bioware isn't going to do anything else for us.

Don't get me wrong.  I've gone past anger, sadness, confusion, frustration and despair.  Now I'm sitting firmly at indifference towards Mass Effect and seething resentment to Bioware.

My advice is that you play the ending DLC.  If you are still unsatisfied, then don't buy any more DLC and buy all your BW products secondhand so Bioware doesn't get any more money.

[ReaperDominator]

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

SLana wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

also while im here im not quite sure where your getting the impression that every one is 'so mad about biowares response' I for one do not feel this way and i am just grateful that they are trying to address the issue....other developers would have told you to deal with it and that the end was the end.

Yeah that's just great. Looks kinda like "They hate our endings? Let's give them more of it!" Like somebody said in some other thread, they try to cure cancer by expanding it.

That's not very true i have seen people claiming to want more closure and explianation on post-endings, so don't try to make it as a fact that everyone hated the endings

No, it is. Everyone who actually cared about Mass Effect's lore and story hated the endings. Literally everyone. I don't believe a single person actually wanted this ending expanded, they wanted change, or at the least Bioware to admit that they ruinned their own series.

...I'm pretty sure that this DLC IS Bio's way of saying they mucked up the ending and now they are trying to amend it....or have you ignored that factor...and also I am a HUUUUGE fan of this series and the ending made me pretty angry but  just because my opinion differs from yours regarding bio's response it doesnt make you right, or allow you to say EVERYONE else is wrong. BOOM

They're not saying they mucked up the ending. They're PROUD of the ending. Have you not read their official statement? They're trying to pacify us for being so discontent with their artistic mastery, that they're giving us a cinematic, that will only expand on the plot-hole riddled, lore ruining ending.

They're very much proud.

AGAIN i say...just because its your opinion doesn't make it right....If they didnt think they'd gone wrong with the ending then they would leave it as it is and we wouldnt be having this conversation...its evident that you haven't got any valid points of argument and are just some one who has invested too much 'emotion' and 'devotion' in this game and should probably try going outside a bit more???

Oh my goodness. They LITERALLY said that they are proud of their ending. You do not read.

Oh wow, what a fantastic comment that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand! a cheap jibe saying that I cannot read.....for your information i have read the official statement and they have a right to be proud of it, just because the majority of us hate it doesnt mean they cant be proud, yet despite their proudness they are still amending it which i think deserves some respect....now hows about you take yourself someplace else, you could take my suggestion of going outside because i think i say this truthfully that your getting annoying. Its because of people like you that the media says the BSN is whiny and entitled

[Immz]

LinksOcarina wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...

"Then" will be too late. If Bioware still cares about their fans, if we truly are co-authors, then we need to speak now if we want additional endings.

You never were getting additional endings, the fact that they are deciding to alter the original ending is honestly more than what they can do, especially considering they own the product. 

Considering they own the product, I beg to differ that they can do more than give us the bare minimum once again.

We were never getting additional endings? On what grounds? Because I'm sure that up until today, they never said anything in regards to the ending, except that now they're giving us a tiny snippet of "closure" and never touching the ending again, hence why we are all mad becaaaaause, for the fiftieth time:

They are taking a horrible ending, that ruined a series, and just making it more pronounced. 

[Harshfact]

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

Immz wrote...

ReaperDominator wrote...

Cant complain...bio cant please everyone.....at the end of the day new dlc is free....no one is making you spend your money on it and you dont even have to down load it if you dont want...take a chill pill

Just because it's free doesn't mean anything. Many of us have said that we would pay for a better ending than keep the one we have for free. It's a non-argument.

I care about this game. Anybody who does would understand our frustration.

I'm just curious, how would you want the ending to happen ? besides" no closure, plotholes etc.." how would you have preffered it to end ? just from the top of your head give me a few ideas that sounds better than the ending we've got

You already got one! Why have you ignored it twice?

http://i.imgur.com/JhtqY.jpg 

Sorry didn't see that but you do realsie that in those scenarios NONe of the choices fro mthe previous game matter right ? also Shepard coming out alive, jsut cheapens the whole Reaper threat IMO .. i could write a few more reasons about that alternative... i do not however disagee that had those factors been cosidered it would have been awesome

agreed

It should not be up to us to construct better endings than the developers. We trusted them to do that, and they spat in the face of the entire series.

It was their job to tie up all the loose ends and give their fans closure to the last entry in a trilogy. What they gave us left us with nothing but anger and a feeling of betrayal.

I can't think of any loose end besides one or two ... care to enlighten me ? 

 

Watch.

half way through video and do u even know what loose ends mean ? by loose ends we mean plot-lines that go no through the series or in a game and are not tied up or explained... i do apoigise if there is anythign further that proves your point thoguh but so far it's more of a review than loose ending

[AJRimmsey]

The man of myth wrote...

Immz, a little constructive criticism, no one here, especially no one from Bioware will take you seriously because you come across as a huge A-hole. Fix that and people may sympathize with your little plight.

might be true,but i think he actually has reality vs fantasy issues,and the seperation of the two.

therapy,thats the only recourse he could take.


just constructive advice.


in fact right now i`ll bet he thinks this is an attack on him,its that serious a problem.

Modifié par AJRimmsey, 05 avril 2012 - 11:43 .