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[qdust]

Honestly I was never all the way onboard with the IT, but you've got nothing to be sorry for.
The in game evidence was compelling, and it made a lot more sense than the ending did if taken litterally.

[Foulpancake]

I'm not so sure this is the end of IT. The endings still make no sense, unless the cutscenes are like 20 minutes it would be impossible to explain all those holes. The tweets from Jessica are leading me to believe there is more to meets the eye with this.

Even if its just cut scenes it would still be easy to have shepard (in the good, red ending) wake up amidst the rubble having broken Indoctrination to see the reapers falling in the sky due to having high EMS and winning.

Just saying lets not jump to conclusions yet

[Shaigunjoe]

Yea, I think IT is a viable theory still.

[HighSpecter]

AtlasMickey wrote...

Larryboy_Dragon wrote...

You gave people hope...
And frankly your ending is better.

Is the banner in your signature there by mistake?

 Why would him using that banner be a mistake? The statement that "Shepard deserves better fans" is quite vague and could be applied to either the pro-enders or the people of Retake ME3; so really anyone could use that banner.

On topic: Op, the only thing that you really need to apologise for is that you claimed that people were wrong for not believing in the Id theory. Anyways, the only thing that you really did here is believe that Bioware couldn't screw up the endings this bad that they are still great storytellers and that may still be true; besides as far as I can tell the Id theory has not yet been proven to be false by Bioware or anyone else.

[MrFob]

First of all, I don't see why anyone should apologize for anything. The IT was a very well thought out theory, no one forced anyone to believe or disbelieve it, if people can't make up their minds on their own and then live with it, it is really their own problem and last but not least, for me personally, the IT was a much needed flicker of hope in the den of despair that was the last 3 weeks .

edit: *snip*, sorry, posted too soon, had not read the FAQ zet. Anyway, the first paragraph of my post stands.

Modifié par MrFob, 06 avril 2012 - 01:34 .

[therookie2552]

Do not feel bad for your self, alot of people feel bad right now.

[Oldbones2]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

People told me I wouldn't be able to admit when Bioware told me IT was not true and asked if I would apologise..

So here it is.
I'm sorry I pushed indoctrination theory.
I'm sorry for the false hope I may have gave to you.
I'm sorry for when I portrayed IT as truth and not theory.
I'm sorry for implying that people who could not see it were confused
I'm sorry for saying you were wrong for thinking bad writing was the problem (turns out it is)

So there. To all of those who got confort from thinking IT would solve thier confusion, i'm sorry for letting you down and plopping you back into the same pit of sorrow you came from, now with even more dissapointment.

I originally wanted to say sorry to Bioware, but they will never get that response now.

EDIT ADD:
I may not have been the first, but I was here from the start of it and was one of the major supporters of it. Not trying to claim that all the creativity behind it was from me. Many conributed to its great ideas.

Retakers, Pro enders we would all do well to be a little more like this man (or woman).  A person who owns up to their mistakes, who can admit their faults may not be right, but they'll never be 'wrong'.

[SirBob1613]

Dridengx wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

PKchu wrote...

One of the greatest strengths of character in my opinion is to admit error after being grievously wrong.

You always seemed like a cool guy to me, don't feel bad about it. Wrong happens.

Take note, BW.

they weren't wrong. Retake was. Why start this all over again? you lost. get over it

Yes they where wrong they threw out there games then went out and stepped on them with the ending

[Disnaster]

Caz Tirin wrote...

If there was going to be additional game play, they would have said so.  Can you think of any (sane, sensible) reason to leave such an important detail out of the FAQ?

I just think semantics are the trouble right now.  Who the heck actually knows what ANY of this means?  No one here on this forum, that's for sure.  And whoever does know isn't telling.

On a side note, can you think of any sane or sensible reason they would have made the original ending?  It's like the last ten minutes of the last Indiana Jones movie.

Is Lucas advising Bioware now?

[Lenimph]

shadey wrote...

well considering you die in 2 choices, then gameplay isn't an option to add.

Food for thought 

Maybe Bioware isn't stating there is new gameplay because Shep can be dead/indoctrinated depending on your choice.  That way people won't get angry about there being no "new gameplay" if Bioware promised it. 

Modifié par Lenimph, 06 avril 2012 - 01:31 .

[Jaze55]

Oldbones2 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

People told me I wouldn't be able to admit when Bioware told me IT was not true and asked if I would apologise..

So here it is.
I'm sorry I pushed indoctrination theory.
I'm sorry for the false hope I may have gave to you.
I'm sorry for when I portrayed IT as truth and not theory.
I'm sorry for implying that people who could not see it were confused
I'm sorry for saying you were wrong for thinking bad writing was the problem (turns out it is)

So there. To all of those who got confort from thinking IT would solve thier confusion, i'm sorry for letting you down and plopping you back into the same pit of sorrow you came from, now with even more dissapointment.

I originally wanted to say sorry to Bioware, but they will never get that response now.

EDIT ADD:
I may not have been the first, but I was here from the start of it and was one of the major supporters of it. Not trying to claim that all the creativity behind it was from me. Many conributed to its great ideas.

Retakers, Pro enders we would all do well to be a little more like this man (or woman).  A person who owns up to their mistakes, who can admit their faults may not be right, but they'll never be 'wrong'.

What is wrong with you people? This kid acted like a total douchce. I literally had to report hoim 9 times in a single thread because he kept calling me a troll and calling me stupid for not seeing IT was true.

If you wife/husband punched you in the mouth every night and said sorry I bet you would stay with them because they are so big to say sorry.

NO you don't act like a complete douche to begin with. lol this kid seriously stalked my threads for days and days. He is nothing more then a little whiney kid that now feels bad for himself and wants sympathy. Look up ANY of my old posts, where people THANKED ME for making them and there he is spouting his venom every chance he got.

What a joke. 

[my Aim is True]

IT is better than what we got. It will probably be better than the DLC 'clarification'
Let's just pretend IT is the real ending and Bioware is indoctrinated by the Reaper known as EA

[GeoFukari]

MassEffected555 wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

People told me I wouldn't be able to admit when Bioware told me IT was not true and asked if I would apologise..

So here it is.
I'm sorry I pushed indoctrination theory.
I'm sorry for the false hope I may have gave to you.
I'm sorry for when I portrayed IT as truth and not theory.
I'm sorry for implying that people who could not see it were confused
I'm sorry for saying you were wrong for thinking bad writing was the problem (turns out it is)

So there. To all of those who got confort from thinking IT would solve thier confusion, i'm sorry for letting you down and plopping you back into the same pit of sorrow you came from, now with even more dissapointment.

I originally wanted to say sorry to Bioware, but they will never get that response now.

EDIT ADD:
I may not have been the first, but I was here from the start of it and was one of the major supporters of it. Not trying to claim that all the creativity behind it was from me. Many conributed to its great ideas.

Retakers, Pro enders we would all do well to be a little more like this man (or woman).  A person who owns up to their mistakes, who can admit their faults may not be right, but they'll never be 'wrong'.

What is wrong with you people? This kid acted like a total douchce. I literally had to report hoim 9 times in a single thread because he kept calling me a troll and calling me stupid for not seeing IT was true.

If you wife/husband punched you in the mouth every night and said sorry I bet you would stay with them because they are so big to say sorry.

NO you don't act like a complete douche to begin with. lol this kid seriously stalked my threads for days and days. He is nothing more then a little whiney kid that now feels bad for himself and wants sympathy. Look up ANY of my old posts, where people THANKED ME for making them and there he is spouting his venom every chance he got.

What a joke. 

AND?

The way you sound makes you come off a bit rude. No offense, but you just sound like the bad guy here. If you have a problem with this guy, take it up with him, not the people on this board.

Ugh.... We have more important enemies to fight than ourselves.

[The Mercenary55]

Indoctrination theory was a hell of an idea. Don't be sorry, you offered thousands a chance to make sense of the ending when there was no sense to begin with. Nothing to be sorry for.

You should be proud.

[Skyline45]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

People told me I wouldn't be able to admit when Bioware told me IT was not true and asked if I would apologise..

So here it is.
I'm sorry I pushed indoctrination theory.
I'm sorry for the false hope I may have gave to you.
I'm sorry for when I portrayed IT as truth and not theory.
I'm sorry for implying that people who could not see it were confused
I'm sorry for saying you were wrong for thinking bad writing was the problem (turns out it is)

So there. To all of those who got confort from thinking IT would solve thier confusion, i'm sorry for letting you down and plopping you back into the same pit of sorrow you came from, now with even more dissapointment.

I originally wanted to say sorry to Bioware, but they will never get that response now.

EDIT ADD:
I may not have been the first, but I was here from the start of it and was one of the major supporters of it. Not trying to claim that all the creativity behind it was from me. Many conributed to its great ideas.

You have nothing to be sorry about bro. Plus, BW still has yet to confirm or deny the theory. So although it looks bleak theres still a slight chance we might of still had it right.

[Tiax Rules All]

MassEffected555 wrote...

What is wrong with you people? This kid acted like a total douchce. I literally had to report hoim 9 times in a single thread because he kept calling me a troll and calling me stupid for not seeing IT was true.

If you wife/husband punched you in the mouth every night and said sorry I bet you would stay with them because they are so big to say sorry.

NO you don't act like a complete douche to begin with. lol this kid seriously stalked my threads for days and days. He is nothing more then a little whiney kid that now feels bad for himself and wants sympathy. Look up ANY of my old posts, where people THANKED ME for making them and there he is spouting his venom every chance he got.

What a joke. 

i never even got a warning for those reports. They were unjustified. You were trying to silence opposition with reports, which is abuse in itself. Look you were wrong, as you are now. You aren't helping yourself. Your post is a lesson on hypocrisy. I don't need you to accept an apology but lets call it a day with the insults now.

[Aceor]

MassEffected555 wrote...

Oldbones2 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

People told me I wouldn't be able to admit when Bioware told me IT was not true and asked if I would apologise..

So here it is.
I'm sorry I pushed indoctrination theory.
I'm sorry for the false hope I may have gave to you.
I'm sorry for when I portrayed IT as truth and not theory.
I'm sorry for implying that people who could not see it were confused
I'm sorry for saying you were wrong for thinking bad writing was the problem (turns out it is)

So there. To all of those who got confort from thinking IT would solve thier confusion, i'm sorry for letting you down and plopping you back into the same pit of sorrow you came from, now with even more dissapointment.

I originally wanted to say sorry to Bioware, but they will never get that response now.

EDIT ADD:
I may not have been the first, but I was here from the start of it and was one of the major supporters of it. Not trying to claim that all the creativity behind it was from me. Many conributed to its great ideas.

Retakers, Pro enders we would all do well to be a little more like this man (or woman).  A person who owns up to their mistakes, who can admit their faults may not be right, but they'll never be 'wrong'.

What is wrong with you people? This kid acted like a total douchce. I literally had to report hoim 9 times in a single thread because he kept calling me a troll and calling me stupid for not seeing IT was true.

If you wife/husband punched you in the mouth every night and said sorry I bet you would stay with them because they are so big to say sorry.

NO you don't act like a complete douche to begin with. lol this kid seriously stalked my threads for days and days. He is nothing more then a little whiney kid that now feels bad for himself and wants sympathy. Look up ANY of my old posts, where people THANKED ME for making them and there he is spouting his venom every chance he got.

What a joke. 

Well then u are. All evidence was there i did not see it, cant understand i dident after seing his thread im glad cause it obvious it was meant to be IT all along 

Modifié par Aceor, 06 avril 2012 - 01:42 .

[Jaze55]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

What is wrong with you people? This kid acted like a total douchce. I literally had to report hoim 9 times in a single thread because he kept calling me a troll and calling me stupid for not seeing IT was true.

If you wife/husband punched you in the mouth every night and said sorry I bet you would stay with them because they are so big to say sorry.

NO you don't act like a complete douche to begin with. lol this kid seriously stalked my threads for days and days. He is nothing more then a little whiney kid that now feels bad for himself and wants sympathy. Look up ANY of my old posts, where people THANKED ME for making them and there he is spouting his venom every chance he got.

What a joke. 

i never even got a warning for those reports. They were unjustified. You were trying to silence opposition with reports, which is abuse in itself. Look you were wrong, as you are now. You aren't helping yourself. Your post is a lesson on hypocrisy. I don't need you to accept an apology but lets call it a day with the insults now.

No bro no. You stalked my threads.I quote "You are to stupid to see it." You called me a troll a million times. Now you want to say sorry? To bad. You don't act like that and then say sorry you disengenous little kid. You shouldn't have acted like that to start with. End of story. You made a complete disgrace out of yourself as far as I am concerned. If it was 1 day and 1 post like I did when I got mad OK but it was a WEEKS worth of you stalking every post I made. A WEEK. No excuse for that behavior none at all.

[darkiddd]

Foulpancake wrote...

I'm not so sure this is the end of IT. The endings still make no sense, unless the cutscenes are like 20 minutes it would be impossible to explain all those holes. The tweets from Jessica are leading me to believe there is more to meets the eye with this.

Even if its just cut scenes it would still be easy to have shepard (in the good, red ending) wake up amidst the rubble having broken Indoctrination to see the reapers falling in the sky due to having high EMS and winning.

Just saying lets not jump to conclusions yet

I think that if you choose destroy then you may get the indoctrination reveal and the story continues. If you choose control or synthesis then you get your endings expanded. At least I think this is wwhat Jessica is suggesting with her cryptic responses.

Or I may be getting mad. After a month thinking about this I have a terrible headache and I'm on an emotional rollercoaster that is draining my endurance 

[Caz Tirin]

Oldbones2 wrote...

Retakers, Pro enders we would all do well to be a little more like this man (or woman).  A person who owns up to their mistakes, who can admit their faults may not be right, but they'll never be 'wrong'.

Demanding a proper ending is a mistake?  Because that's what Retake is about.  How is that wrong?  How is that a mistake that needs to be apologized for?

[Tiax Rules All]

MassEffected555 wrote...

i never even got a warning for those reports. They were unjustified. You were trying to silence opposition with reports, which is abuse in itself. Look you were wrong, as you are now. You aren't helping yourself. Your post is a lesson on hypocrisy. I don't need you to accept an apology but lets call it a day with the insults now.

No bro no. You stalked my threads.I quote "You are to stupid to see it." You called me a troll a million times. Now you want to say sorry? To bad. You don't act like that and then say sorry you disengenous little kid. You shouldn't have acted like that to start with. End of story. You made a complete disgrace out of yourself as far as I am concerned. If it was 1 day and 1 post like I did when I got mad OK but it was a WEEKS worth of you stalking every post I made. A WEEK. No excuse for that behavior none at all.

dude i never stalked you. what do you want me to say here? you hate me, awesome. you win. have a nice life.

Modifié par Tiax Rules All, 06 avril 2012 - 01:50 .

[SgtPepper667]

You shouldn't be apologizing, you had a great idea and it made the endings bearable.

[VAIOMANIAC]

Don´t be sorry it was a good theory you have nothing to apologize for.

[Eyeshield21]

Dridengx wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

PKchu wrote...

One of the greatest strengths of character in my opinion is to admit error after being grievously wrong.

You always seemed like a cool guy to me, don't feel bad about it. Wrong happens.

Take note, BW.

they weren't wrong. Retake was. Why start this all over again? you lost. get over it

yeah, you crushing people's opinions(or trying to) isn't gonna help anyone.^
People believe what they want to believe, I say let them, and move on, buddy.

[Mastermadskills]

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