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[Athlonis1]

There is no need to apologize. There is always hope. Even if this is to be our last stand then it has been an end worth remembering, unlike Shepard's unfortunately.

[SeanThen1]

Aaleel wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

So, that's it? You stop believing even though there's NOTHING in BioWare's statements that says IT is false?

If anything, CLARIFICATION is exactly what it would be!

But whatever, you have your right to walk away.

If the IT was true it would mean that the game never ended.  IF they're not adding any gameplay how will you finish the game?  All they're giving people is cutscenes.  That's why I never really believed in the IT, I never thought Bioware would sell players the last game of a 5 year, 3 game trilogy without an ending.

Also if the IT was true, they wouldn't need months to make the new content, they'd already have had it ready.

This. What would their "extended scenes" be?

We see you chose "Synthesis and/or Control." As it turns out, you were indoctrinated, and since you didn't choose Destroy, you became a glorified husk and helped to greatly excellerate the reaping of your cycle.

I hope this explanation brings you the closure you so desired.

Goodbye!

[Parabolee77]

Wait a minute, I'm confused. When did Bioware confirm IT was false? Because the DLC announcement doesn't do that. Adding more clarity to the end is what I wanted as an IT believer. Saying there won't be changing the ending is what they already said, IT being true means the ending doesn't need changing just further clarified?

Really did I miss something?

I just can't believe from all the comment Bioware made about the ending that ending minus IT is what they menat and all the clues for IT were accidental? I just don't buy it. Sorry but I have more faith in Bioware.

[txmn1016]

Don't apologize. IT is now, and will probably remain, my headcannon. It also reaffirmed how smart this community is. Don't ever be ashamed of your intelligence or creativity.

[ragnorok87]

actually sir indoctrination theroy may be correct after all. just read this tweet i recieved.






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wadedewell wade dewell
@masseffect people want an ending that actually fits the series and takes into account their choices. they want a different ending
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[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

I don't know who OP (or really anyone not Bioware) is, but if you did write a lot of material supporting IT, why give up now? We didn't really find out anything new today except that it's planned for the summer. We already knew they said they wanted to 'clarify' the ending, so why the jumping of the ship now? You haven't explained anything. I'm liable to believe someone hijacked your account.

A cinematic proving indoctrination theory simply has to start with where the breathing scene left off: Shep gets up (on Earth) and goes in for real and pushes the destroy Reapers button minus the Harbinger child, no suicide by walking into the blast, actual scenes of victory instead of Joker flying away.

[MustacheManatee]

txmn1016 wrote...

Don't apologize. IT is now, and will probably remain, my headcannon. It also reaffirmed how smart this community is. Don't ever be ashamed of your intelligence or creativity.

This exactly!

[DocJill]

You should be proud. You created an ending that was far superior to the current one, and what I will consider my headcannon.

[AtreiyaN7]

If IT is correct, then the core endings don't necessarily have to be changed at all, do they? It's the "additional context and deeper insight" part of the equation that might reshape the overall experience and make it mesh with the current hypothesis. I'm not even an IT supporter per se, but I've always found it to be an interesting hypothesis - one that could turn out to be correct (or not as the case may be) come summer.

[Chaota Vos]

No apology nessessary. Your headcanon theory beat a team of writers whose best idea was Space Magic. They should be freakin' hiring you.

My hat off to you, ser.

[Cyan-Glow]

IT was and still is a beautiful and truly artistic interpretation of the endings, and I say artistic in the sense of the word that means creative and thoughtful , not in their sense of "stubborn and unmovable".

You gave a lot of people a good alternative for looking at things, and you rallied them all to believe. That sir is truly special and I hope you're proud of your influence.

[Twilight_Princess]

I was hoping bioware would use this clever idea but they didn't. Don't be sorry for showing that you cared more about the ending than they did.

[Bourne Endeavor]

No need to apologize, OP. The IT gave a glimmer of hope to the hopeless and if nothing else, allows us to headcanon a very creative "fanfic." That is more than would have had otherwise. Alas, the real loss here is our faith in BioWare to weave creative stories seems to be misplaced. Mass Effect, a triumphant series it was, will live on not for its critical acclaim that BioWare insists on perpetuating, but of the controversy surrounding its conclusion and what may end up being the breaking point for many previously loyal fans.

Now that is truly something to be sorry for.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 06 avril 2012 - 12:23 .

[ryuasiu]

ragnorok87 wrote...

actually sir indoctrination theroy may be correct after all. just read this tweet i recieved.






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wadedewell wade dewell
@masseffect people want an ending that actually fits the series and takes into account their choices. they want a different ending
Apr 05, 4:43 PM via web

As pro IT I am not seeing the evidence to prove or disprove IT here 

[die-yng]

I had no problem with IT, even if I did not once believe it, the only thing that buggered me was the constant: "YOu don't get it!" by its supporters. I got it just fine from the start, I just never believed it.

Otherwise, I understood your reasoning, your argumentation and clues were good and it would have been kind of cool if BW really had dared to do something like this.

Modifié par die-yng, 06 avril 2012 - 12:24 .

[AgentCross]

I forgive you, I wanted to believe too. 

[ForceXev]

Aaleel wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

So, that's it? You stop believing even though there's NOTHING in BioWare's statements that says IT is false?

If anything, CLARIFICATION is exactly what it would be!

But whatever, you have your right to walk away.

If the IT was true it would mean that the game never ended.  IF they're not adding any gameplay how will you finish the game?  All they're giving people is cutscenes.  That's why I never really believed in the IT, I never thought Bioware would sell players the last game of a 5 year, 3 game trilogy without an ending.

Also if the IT was true, they wouldn't need months to make the new content, they'd already have had it ready.

They never said they are not adding gameplay.  They said cutscenes and epilogue scenes.  People are automatically assuming "epilogue" means text only because that's what Dragon Age did, but this is not the Dragon Age development team.  I don't think the ME3 team would want to just go copy something that the Dragon Age team did.  Epilogue can very well be an episode of gameplay, dialogue scenes, whatever.  (Jessica Merizan seems to deny that there is no gameplay, for whatever that's worth)

They may have had something ready to go for DLC but after the response decided it's not going to cut it anymore.  Or they may have planned to leave the ending open to interpretation and theories.  Or they had a full DLC ready with a whole new story, and now want to separate out the ending stuff from the new story stuff so they can still sell the new stuff as a paid DLC.  Lots of possibilities, we really don't know anything because they haven't told us very much.  People are just making HUGE assumptions based on almost nothing, including the assumption that IT is out of the picture.

[UltmtBiz]

The Angry One wrote...

Hey I wish it had been something other than what we got, and IT was as good as any alternative.
It isn't easy realising we're stuck with this as the end to our 5 year long saga.

This and a bunch of others. At least I had hope for 3 weeks. I actually think it'll be easier for me to walk away now if it's necessary.

[Smiley556]

ragnorok87 wrote...

actually sir indoctrination theroy may be correct after all. just read this tweet i recieved.






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wadedewell wade dewell
@masseffect people want an ending that actually fits the series and takes into account their choices. they want a different ending
Apr 05, 4:43 PM via web

As pro IT, I will use the dreaded term that I have dispised the past month: "Grasping at emergency induction ports straws".

Really, its dead.

[Notho]

You shouldn't appologize for trying to make the best out of a bad situation. My thoughts on IT have always been a bit on the sarcastic side (as in I didn't think BioWare was clever enough to do it).

Don't be ashamed of being passionate.

[Terraforming2154]

Frankly, the IT was the one thing that gave me a bit of hope for the series after finishing ME3.
You shouldn't apologize for hoping the ending was more than it was.

[Lenimph]

Parabolee77 wrote...

Wait a minute, I'm confused. When did Bioware confirm IT was false? Because the DLC announcement doesn't do that. Adding more clarity to the end is what I wanted as an IT believer. Saying there won't be changing the ending is what they already said, IT being true means the ending doesn't need changing just further clarified?

Really did I miss something?

I just can't believe from all the comment Bioware made about the ending that ending minus IT is what they menat and all the clues for IT were accidental? I just don't buy it. Sorry but I have more faith in Bioware.

This 

[zenoxis]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

People told me I wouldn't be able to admit when Bioware told me IT was not true and asked if I would apologise..

So here it is.
I'm sorry I pushed indoctrination theory.
I'm sorry for the false hope I may have gave to you.
I'm sorry for when I portrayed IT as truth and not theory.
I'm sorry for implying that people who could not see it were confused
I'm sorry for saying you were wrong for thinking bad writing was the problem (turns out it is)

So there. To all of those who got confort from thinking IT would solve thier confusion, i'm sorry for letting you down and plopping you back into the same pit of sorrow you came from, now with even more dissapointment.

I originally wanted to say sorry to Bioware, but they will never get that response now.

EDIT ADD:
I may not have been the first, but I was here from the start of it and was one of the major supporters of it. Not trying to claim that all the creativity behind it was from me. Many conributed to its great ideas.

Man if Bioware would man up like this gentleman and just admit they screwed up the endings I'd be more than happy to continue buying their games. But since their artistic ripping off is getting in the way of that I suppose my money can go to Bethesda.

[GBJ13]

If though I didn't think IT was true, it was a great idea. It was one of the best ways to fix the ending. Bioware could have run with it. They could have even faked it and pretended like it was the ending.

So many chances, and it looks like they're going to squander them all.

[Larryboy_Dragon]

You gave people hope...
And frankly your ending is better.