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FlamingBoy wrote...

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Yes I will buy Mass Effect 4. I will buy anything Mass Effect related even if it's on Next generation systems because Im a hardcore Mass Effect fan and love the series and appreciate it unlike some people.

The More Mass Effect The Better. :)


this perception by gamers and the media that some how buying, even if the business practices are unethical, makes you more of a fan than any one else quite frankly is mind boggling and it needs to stop.


You get this kind of blind "fan" devotion in every media though, whether it be games, bands, tv series etc etc.  I agree that it doesn't make someone more of a fan, in fact, I think it can actually be damaging when people will go out and buy "anything" that's put out, no matter how good or bad it is - in my eyes, that's like giving them a green light to make something awful 'cause they know it'll still sell... fans, real fans that is, are critical in order to keep "artists" honest, and encourage them to put out good stuff... real fans say "if you put out something bad, I'm not buying it".

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If it is just as good as the trilogy, I will definitely buy it.

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Yes. Pre-order and everything.

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I'll buy the 4th one but I doubt it'll be Mass Effect 4 since Shepard's story is over.

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I will happily buy the next ME game, whatever the story line ends up being,  I'm also looking forward to DA3.  I felt the stories were good enough that I'll be willing to continue purchasing their games, so long as I find them interesting. 

Having said that, I have to add, I have not paid for any of the new single player DLC for ME3 as yet.  I may, if I become bored enough, buy them in the future.

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Solmanian wrote...

Raizo wrote...

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True but I trust that bioware will make one and that it will be a good game. If you don't Raizo that is your call but some of us trust bioware that they will do the franchise right.


Well Bioware didn't exactly didn't exactly impress me with ME3, quite the opposite actually, I can't remember ever being more dissappointed by a game in my life. I hate almost everything about ME3.

Out of all the Bioware games I have ever played ( ME1, DA:O, DA: Awakenings, ME2, DA2, ME3 ) the only one that I thought was truly great was ME2. I am not in a posistion where I can automatically trust Bioware to deliver the goods since when I look back on thier gaming legacy all I see are is either mediocrity or great ideas that did not live up to 'thier' potential.


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Ha.. also KotOR/Jade Empire.... just like.. all the best ones. 

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JakeMacDon wrote...

Nope.  

In any meaningful sense, Single player gaming is dying fast, and will be pretty much dead by the time "ME4" (if) ever shows.  Co-op and multiplayer is the way of the future.  Everyone has to buy a copy if they wanna play.  Can't do either if you just lend the game to your buddy for the SP experience.

Money talks and bullsh!t walks and as far as EA is concerned SP is nothing but bullsh!t.  

Mass Effect is dead - they shot it in the head in an attempt to put it down, and SP - especially from EA - is being bludgeoned to death as hard and as fast as they can.  

I doubt ME4 will ever be anything more than talk, and if it does materialize at some future point the only thing it'll share with the franchise is the name.




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wait for trailers to come out, see if i like the setting and story, then buy.

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Y'know, it's kind of bemusing that any of you have any faith that the next installments of ME or DA will be any good, or that their import features will do anything meaningful.

When DA2 was coming out, it was said that you could import your character and decisions from DA:O, when in fact you couldn't import your character, and the imported decisions had absolutely no impact one the DA2 story, all the imported decisions did was add one or two bit of dialogue or an encounter somewhere, none of which impacted the story.

With ME3, you again can't import your character from ME2, despite the claims that they fixed that problem, and again the imported decisions have very little, if any impact, of the ME3 story, you just get slight variations in dialogue if, say for example, Wrex or that other Krogan are in charge - some decisions are completely ignored, such as putting Anderson on the Council, and whether or not you destroy the Collector base... any changes to story are superficial, and have absolutely no impact on the ME3 ending - I've played pure Paragon, Renegade and as Neutral as I can manage, and the ending are still essentially the same, meaning, basicly, everything in ME1/2 is rendered pointless.

On top of those things, both DA2 and ME3 have moved so far away from what made DA:O and ME1/2 so great that they are essentially completely different types of game, and franky are very poor in comparison... which is why I, personally, don't have much faith DA3 or a ME4 will be any better, and I frankly dread seeing what they come up with.

Like many people I'm sure, I've read what's been said about DA3 so far, and taking that at face value it sounds really good - but, you know what, the same thing happened with ME3, the hype made it sound awesome, but we know how it turned out. I won't take any press releases about BW games at face value again, I certainly won't pre-order, I'll read fan reviews before making a decision about buying.

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Eyup!

I will also be buying XCOM: Mass Effect, Command Mass and Conquer Effect, Assassins Effect, Mass Age and all other RTS, TBS, RPG, shooter and etc. from Bioware. Why? Cus im indoctrinated.

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res27772 wrote...

Y'know, it's kind of bemusing that any of you have any faith that the next installments of ME or DA will be any good, or that their import features will do anything meaningful.

When DA2 was coming out, it was said that you could import your character and decisions from DA:O, when in fact you couldn't import your character, and the imported decisions had absolutely no impact one the DA2 story, all the imported decisions did was add one or two bit of dialogue or an encounter somewhere, none of which impacted the story.

With ME3, you again can't import your character from ME2, despite the claims that they fixed that problem, and again the imported decisions have very little, if any impact, of the ME3 story, you just get slight variations in dialogue if, say for example, Wrex or that other Krogan are in charge - some decisions are completely ignored, such as putting Anderson on the Council, and whether or not you destroy the Collector base... any changes to story are superficial, and have absolutely no impact on the ME3 ending - I've played pure Paragon, Renegade and as Neutral as I can manage, and the ending are still essentially the same, meaning, basicly, everything in ME1/2 is rendered pointless.

On top of those things, both DA2 and ME3 have moved so far away from what made DA:O and ME1/2 so great that they are essentially completely different types of game, and franky are very poor in comparison... which is why I, personally, don't have much faith DA3 or a ME4 will be any better, and I frankly dread seeing what they come up with.

Like many people I'm sure, I've read what's been said about DA3 so far, and taking that at face value it sounds really good - but, you know what, the same thing happened with ME3, the hype made it sound awesome, but we know how it turned out. I won't take any press releases about BW games at face value again, I certainly won't pre-order, I'll read fan reviews before making a decision about buying.


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simple answer..no

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Solmanian wrote...

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. Yes, EA announced policy is that no game will be greenlit without a MP component. They're not hiding it, they're shouting it in every gaming convention. And they give developers a choice: either do the game the way we want it, or will take your IP and give it to another studio that will do what we want. We can expect that to continue as long as frank is CEO. We just need to weather it. But saying SP is dead?


For all intents and purposes, the optional offline, play-by-yourself single player immersion type games (like ME 1 and 2) are either dead or dying. ME4 will have co-op and multiplayer, just like the next Dead Space does - along with the bullsh!t provisio that your "gamplay experience will not be impacted by the addition" of either while in the same breath they say it will be "richer" if you play co-op.  So, how is it "not impacted" by the intrusion of another player yet considered "better" if there's another player?  I'm not stupid enough to be able to compartmentalize both of those as "truth".  

A single player game is just that.  No co-op.  No MP. No need to go or stay online save for updates or DLC. Even MP games like Unreal Tournament didn't force you to go online, including excellent bot AI to play against to allow you to learn the damn game first before you decided whether to play online or not.  It's a sad state when the SP component is technically only there so you can practice - and I am looking at you ME3 SP.  I'm having a hard time finding a reason why I shouldn't think of it that way - and I've gone through ME3 ten times already, trying out different classes and romances.  The feeling stays with every playthrough.

Apocalyptic prophecies about the death of SP has been made since the invention of MMO's; As does the prophecies of PC gaming dying because of consoles. So far SP is the largest portion of gaming (RPG's not as much) and PC share is not only bigger than any console but actually growing. There'll allways be people like who prefer to do their socializing in a pub or a caffee shop while reminiscing with their friends about the days of yesteryear, and their gaming by themselves. When it comes to MP there is a saying that I think fits best to my perspective: "hell is other people"; and I'm not alone.
The ME MP is the only MP I ever played (not including MMO's), and vey probably ,might be the only one I will. To have so much of my gaming experience dependant on the capricions of other people, often complete strangers? Unacceptable. Image IPB


Agreed.  I am not however, making any "apocalyptic" prophecies.  It's the current trend in gaming to limit or do away with SP gaming, whether people like it or not.  It's cheaper to crank out maps and guns and player models than it is to hire writers and actors and craft a coherent story with tons of dialogue and character development.  That takes years of time, asstons of money and effort and is a one-time cash grab, given the unsavory practice with DLC and the dearth of actual expansion packs, resale fvckery and the like.

It's a cliche, but money really does talk and bullsh!t can take a walk and SP doesn't make companies like EA as much money as people think. It's bottomline and that's all it will ever be.  Dev time is not cheap.  It's far easier to crank out a MP game like COD: Battlefield Whatever every year than take three to craft some 30-40-50 hour blockbuster.  It's no accident SP storylines are getting shorter and shorter, and no accident that games like Skyrim hide the lack of story in open-world stuff with quest after quest that advance nothing storywise. Fleshing out lore is not storytelling - it's detailing. Skyrim's story is six or seven hours long if you skip all the fetch quests that fill out the bulk of that game - and Dawnguard maybe makes it ten.  

Look at the state of ME3 - rushed and dumped and now ploddingly being "added to", as if we won't notice the lame attempts to fill in what six months of extra production time would have made moot.

Okay - maybe it's not "dead", but it is slowly being raped and strangled.

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DEMIKLY wrote...

Not sure if serious...

If you are, please leave and let the door hit you on the way out.

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Pithy.  

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probably no

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gw2005 wrote...

May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out.


I'm guessing that's supposed to somehow be insightful, just a pity it sounds as unintelligible Yoda.

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no

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Will just wait till it's released and see what how it is.

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Unless Mass Effect 4 is a sequel to ME3, that fixes and gives us closure with the original cast, then NO.

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Yes.

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JakeMacDon wrote...

DEMIKLY wrote...

Not sure if serious...

If you are, please leave and let the door hit you on the way out.

Hard.

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Pithy.  

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FROST4584 wrote...

Unless Mass Effect 4 is a sequel to ME3, that fixes and gives us closure with the original cast, then NO.

No buy for you then I guess... so are you telling me if it's on a par with ME 1 or 2, you wont by it, out of butthurt spite?

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Mass effect is gone, whatever comes now will be a shadow of what used to be.

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I can see the tag line now, "You survived the Reapers, bow before your new master race."

The forces of *wheeze* the universe *wheezes* bend to me.

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Put out another MP Demo (for ME4 obviously) and we'll talk, otherwise probably not.