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Overule

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Is this something you all at Bioware/EA were just flat out not aware of? Or what? Every single statement you've made in recent weeks opens with: "we do not find we are at fault in any way..." and ends with: "... but we're listening, keep the faith!"

And there's an underlying problem with that. Namely that if you don't think you've done anything wrong then you're clearly *not* listening to us, and by consequence we shouldn't hold out hope neither.

If you were actually taking what people are saying to heart? You'd have made a heartfelt apology a week after the game's release date and announced you were working on appropriate content to amend it. But you didn't do that. You insisted that the ending was meant to create negative reactions, ignored people's complaints up until they had an organized charity and a website to back them, and you've been condescending and evasive from day 1 about *everything* negative people have said about the game.

Look, I'm a reasonable guy. I'm still willing to hold out hope for a little bit longer, but you can't keep on brushing people off and keep expecting them to come back for more of the same treatment. It's just not a smart bet to make. Offending someone's #2 on the list of ways to make enemies right after harming someone.

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OutlawTorn6806

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Can you please continue to spamming the board with more of your threads and opinions. I really can't get enough of them.

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OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Can you please continue to spamming the board with more of your threads and opinions. I really can't get enough of them.

Enlightening. Thank you for sharing.

Modifié par Random Nobody, 06 avril 2012 - 12:06 .


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OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Can you please continue to spamming the board with more of your threads and opinions. I really can't get enough of them.


I'd be happy to. Feel free to keep on reading and responding to them, it does wonders to help spread them =)

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OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Can you please continue to spamming the board with more of your threads and opinions. I really can't get enough of them.


Yeah because threads and boards are in no way meant for opinions. 

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The problem is some people were perfectly happy with the ending all they wanted was the clarification and expansion BioWare has announced, so you rather BioWare dismiss them?

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OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Can you please continue to spamming the board with more of your threads and opinions. I really can't get enough of them.


Can you please continue contradicting yourself by complaining about opinion threads. I really can't get enough of the sanctimonious attitudes.

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How many threads expressing the same sentiment are you going to make, exactly ...?

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Sanunes wrote...

The problem is some people were perfectly happy with the ending all they wanted was the clarification and expansion BioWare has announced, so you rather BioWare dismiss them?


Figure out what the ratio is between them and people who're angry, then get back to me. If the ratio's what I suspect it is, than Bioware's *GOING* to dismiss them because it's the smarter option.

But then, I've been let down before.

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Sanunes wrote...

The problem is some people were perfectly happy with the ending all they wanted was the clarification and expansion BioWare has announced, so you rather BioWare dismiss them?


And this relates to his post in which way?

OP is spot on. Bioware aren't listening. They're keeping the attitude of "they kow best" while firing off the line "we are listening" while their actions show all too much that they aren't actually listening to what people say.

They only react when being prodded hard enough with the cowstick, and even then no more than they think they can get away with.

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The Razman wrote...

How many threads expressing the same sentiment are you going to make, exactly ...?


Valid question. I'll answer with another: how many will you bother reading/responding to?

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OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Can you please continue to spamming the board with more of your threads and opinions. I really can't get enough of them.

That's great, what was your favorite part of the thread?

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Dude go and drive to Bioware or EA and talk to them

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Foryou wrote...

Dude go and drive to Bioware or EA and talk to them


Y'know a friend of mine and I were talking about bringing sandwhich signs to the parking lot, but we decided the gesture was likely to end in disaster (cops/local news story). I'll stick to pestering them on public channels for now, much easier and it's alot less tacky.

Modifié par Overule, 06 avril 2012 - 12:35 .


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Life lesson: Apologies with the words "but" or "however" in them don't count.

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Foryou

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Overule wrote...

Foryou wrote...

Dude go and drive to Bioware or EA and talk to them


Y'know a friend of mine and I were talking about bringing sandwhich signs to the parking lot, but we decided the gesture was likely to end in disaster (cops/local news story). I'll stick to pestering them on public channels for now, much easier and it's alot less tacky.

Hey you never know it could end up like the 2 people who protested outside of Valve for Half Life 3 and you could get a free lunch.

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Overule wrote...

The Razman wrote...

How many threads expressing the same sentiment are you going to make, exactly ...?


Valid question. I'll answer with another: how many will you bother reading/responding to?

That's ... not an answer, it's just a deflection?

<_<

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Foryou wrote...

Overule wrote...

Foryou wrote...

Dude go and drive to Bioware or EA and talk to them


Y'know a friend of mine and I were talking about bringing sandwhich signs to the parking lot, but we decided the gesture was likely to end in disaster (cops/local news story). I'll stick to pestering them on public channels for now, much easier and it's alot less tacky.

Hey you never know it could end up like the 2 people who protested outside of Valve for Half Life 3 and you could get a free lunch.


Fair point, I'll bring it up next time we chat. lol

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Couldn't have said better myself op. And maybe this article and youtube vid can help to elaborate further. Doubtful that Bioware is paying attention but hey I can hope a little. VERY little.

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/



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The Razman wrote...
That's ... not an answer, it's just a deflection?

<_<


Annoying when someone you're addressing feeds you non-answers isn't it?

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Overule wrote...

The Razman wrote...
That's ... not an answer, it's just a deflection?

<_<


Annoying when someone you're addressing feeds you non-answers isn't it?


Touché, I like you OP you're a good sort.

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The Razman

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Overule wrote...

The Razman wrote...
That's ... not an answer, it's just a deflection?

<_<


Annoying when someone you're addressing feeds you non-answers isn't it?

Sure. They've got hundreds of thousands of people messaging and posting on forums to them and a business and PR plan to protect, though. You're just deflecting because ... well, you tell me?

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OutlawTorn6806 wrote...

Can you please continue to spamming the board with more of your threads and opinions. I really can't get enough of them.



Either amazing troll post or complete idiot, I sure hope youre a troll.