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[corporal doody]

im so tired of all this "****** on them" going on around the BSN. it was bad....it has gotten worse...now it is non-sense. Im cool with being upset with the endings....I dislike the "Retake movement" and how they have been going about things though. This crap is getting so silly. GIVE US WHAT WE WANT OR ELSE mentality is CRAP. Happy ending or bust for you!! CRAP! freakin bile spewing all up around here.

I throw in the towel. If i could fling poo i would. ****** on you ingrates that are unwilling to be patient. Stuff takes time...a olive branch has been offered...rather than say.."we will see/reserve the right to accept until seeing what it is you are offering"...you say "GO TO HELL!"

Game over man!!

retake my sanity.
see my movement (BM baby!!).

[Ahms]

Lord Jaric wrote...

They wouldn't have done this if it wasn't for the massive backlash. So the movement did succeed at getting them to at least do something about it. I hold my judgment until I see the dlc, if it at least provides answers and closure I'll be somewhat satisfied, maybe not happy but at least satisfied. If it fails then I'm going to be very wary about future bioware and ea games in the future.

Don't fall into a possible trap. It could have been that they planned it this way originally, and now they will use your line of thinking as a PR advantage to make it look like they're listening to us when all along they're doing what they had originally intended. It would make them look really good to outside observers. Don't underestimate the politics involved.

Modifié par Ahms, 06 avril 2012 - 05:39 .

[ed87]

Its not a fix. Its a compromise between what Bioware want and what the fans want.

Im glad and surprised theyre giving it to us for free. That makes all the complaining worth it in the end.

[ManOfSteeL1618]

[quote]xsdob wrote...

[quote]liggy002 wrote...

[quote]robertm2 wrote...

Right... I am thankful that they didn't listen to their fans.  I'm thankful that they cut out Harbinger and aren't going to give me any extra gameplay with him.  Additional cinematics aren't enough and they know it, but it seems that they are too arrogant to see that.  No other company in the world would do that?  Bethesda did it and Bioware isn't half the company they are.  They could at least have the integrity to tell me right off the bat if there is going to be any gameplay.  It doesn't sound like it.  I've wasted my time with these series and I am done wasting my time.
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1. you don't know about the gameplay part.
2. fans hated harbinger and wanted him cut because he was too "saturday morning cartoon villian"ish for the fans liking, and why they made the reaper on rannoch more like soverign.

[/quote]

Are you ****ing serious?! THAT'S why Harbinger is not in the game?

...thanks yall.

[halbert986]

They didn't want to make this free, they had to. Had they made DLC cost money the backlash would have extended beyond the community of passionate gamers. It would have made a bad situation worse. So no I'm not glad, I expected it.

[robertm2]

[quote]ManOfSteeL1618 wrote...

[quote]xsdob wrote...

[quote]liggy002 wrote...

[quote]robertm2 wrote...

Right... I am thankful that they didn't listen to their fans.  I'm thankful that they cut out Harbinger and aren't going to give me any extra gameplay with him.  Additional cinematics aren't enough and they know it, but it seems that they are too arrogant to see that.  No other company in the world would do that?  Bethesda did it and Bioware isn't half the company they are.  They could at least have the integrity to tell me right off the bat if there is going to be any gameplay.  It doesn't sound like it.  I've wasted my time with these series and I am done wasting my time.
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1. you don't know about the gameplay part.
2. fans hated harbinger and wanted him cut because he was too "saturday morning cartoon villian"ish for the fans liking, and why they made the reaper on rannoch more like soverign.

[/quote]

Are you ****ing serious?! THAT'S why Harbinger is not in the game?

...thanks yall.
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please dont edit quotes to put someone else words in my mouth. k thanks.

[Sir Hecubus]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Nope, this is the BioWare fanbase. They'd complain to God for giving them oxygen.

God didn't give me oxygen, so how could i complain to someone who doesn't exist?

[nopantsisabela]

No. I wanted to pay for a good ending to a great series. I don't particularly feel thankful for having free stuff cobbled together just so I can be told I should be grateful. Maybe that's not the intention. But that is certainly what it feels like.

I'm not trying to be a jerk here but I don't even really know if this is better. At least with the original ending I could pretend all the plot holes meant Shepard was dreaming or facing an indoctrination attempt. I enjoyed hiding from the truth while it lasted.

Modifié par nopantsisabela, 06 avril 2012 - 06:32 .

[R-F]

I frankly don't care about the price (I'm still a fan and this is more content for a game that I loved for all but 5 minutes) but I'm wary of the content itself. They said flat out the ending won't change, just that we will get more clarification. I don't see how said clarification will make mystery planet, my crew going awol and nonsensical star child matter but I guess that's what they have to do.

[Dreogan]

I'll reserve judgement until I have the DLC in hand before deciding if I'm happy or not. Keep in mind this entire ordeal was due, in part, to broken promises and undelivered product. I'm not so naive that I'll simply trust them on their word -- they've proven the spirit of their word (yes, even if you want to say they are jedi-true, the spirit of what they say is false) is unreliable.

[ThePinkFoxx]

I am thankful.

[FemmeShep]

ed87 wrote...

Its not a fix. Its a compromise between what Bioware want and what the fans want.

Im glad and surprised theyre giving it to us for free. That makes all the complaining worth it in the end.

Not really a compromise tbh.

[Balek-Vriege]

killnoob wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...
Nope, this is the BioWare fanbase. They'd complain to God for giving them oxygen.

Made this one a while back, but it's still true...



Also, I'm looking forward to the DLC.

not really, have you seen people complaining about how they handle dragon age origin's ending? no, right?
 so why can't they follow the same model for ME3?

" you cannot make everyone happy" is just a lame excuse for not trying hard enough.

Actually there was plenty of complaining about Dragon Age: Origin and its ending.  Hard to believe but its true (Sacrifice, "godbaby" etc).  Not to mention lore and "plotholes" were big issues as well.  It was the start of all the story complaints about Bioware games and was quickly dethroned by Mass Effect 2 followed by DAII and ME3.  Even ME1 had a lot debates circling around plotholes and of course "this isn't a real RPG" arguments.

With the release of ME3 you would think ME2 was the best game in the world with a perfect story now.  Only a year ago ME2 was the worst of the franchise and before DAII the worst Bioware game of all time.  I can't believe how fast it went on top an alter right before ME3 was released (even before the ending controversy got started).

Modifié par Balek-Vriege, 06 avril 2012 - 07:07 .

[Funkdrspot]

I am and I'm not.

I am in the sense that it's free

I'm not in the sense that few people thought the ending was anything but horrible and that this DLC shouldn't be DLC, it should be in the GAME at LAUNCH.

[Alez Zinai]

I guess thank you Bioware
We'll see how it will turn out
definitely ending will be better than now (can't imagine how it may become worse)

[thefallen2far]

Okay. Alll you people who say that upset people are "ungrateful" or "whiners" remind me of abusive parents who beat their kids and say "you're all ungrateful brats... I put food on your table". I'm kinda wondering if that's actually an issue with your own personal lives or whether you're aware of it being in your lives. The responses are just so.... condescending and offensive. You all come across badly to me.

There's a distinction between not appreciating the effort, and not caring about the announcement. I appreciate the effort, but I don't care about "clarification". There was an additional 20 minutes of footage to the Lost season finale that "clarified" the ending.... it was just as bad. BSG had audio commentary on the DVD box set.... it didn't change anything. I'd LOVE to pay full price for a complete, satisfying ending. I would pay another $60 to want to play the game again. It doesn't have to be free. I'll pay it.  I make more than enough money on the stock market right now...but spending thousands of hours and hundreds of thousands of dollars on DLC to clarify an artistic vision that in my opinion is short sighted, philisophically obtuse, symbolically devoid of merit, contradictive of theme for the story and is only appreciated by fringe appreciators of the game series who like insulting people who don't like the ending more than the ending itself. 

With respect.

Modifié par thefallen2far, 06 avril 2012 - 07:50 .

[Apfelweinbrauer]

anorling wrote...

While I also would love to have the DLC ready for download by tomorrow as much as the next guy it's not a very relastic expectation.

You can complain about how BioWare has handled lots of things during this ending fiasco and I'll agree with you.
But im not going to hold the development time of the new ending DLC against them.
Stuff like that takes time to produce.

I am well aware of the fact that producing new DLC from scratch is going to take time, my point is, why is this necessary in the first place? Why did they sell a product that is lightyears away from their pre-release promises?

This is not some bug or a problem with specific graphic cards some users have, something that couldn't have been foreseen. No, they shipped out this game fully knowing of its poor, illogical and vastly underwhelming ending despite their past promises and exactly that is my problem with having to wait until summer for a DLC (which will most certainly be adding further disappointment by just enlarging this craptastic RGB-art)

And i'd rather see them take their time with this DLC rather then to rush it and end up with another belly flop like they did with the current endings.

Ohhh man, right now I feel so bad for you and everyone who anticipates this DLC...

[JimmyBazooka]

Sareth Cousland wrote...

And for the ending of ME3 in relation to artistic integrity: "A deus ex machina is generally undesirable in writing and often implies a lack of creativity on the part of the author. The reasons for this are that it does not pay due regard to the story's internal logic and is often so unlikely that it challenges suspension of disbelief, allowing the author to conclude the story with an unlikely, though perhaps more palatable, ending" (Wikipedia)

[Spectre-00N7]

I'm as happy about the free dlc as I would be happy about them taking me out for dinner. I don't think it will fix the ending, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[CrazyRah]

Chaota Vos wrote...

Free turd polish doesn't change the fact that it's expected to be used on a turd.

[TUHD]

robertm2 wrote...

There is no downside to this really. It costs nothing, adds clarification, and could possible fix the ending that so many people seem to have a problem with. I actually liked the ending but obviously people didnt and they did something about it. FOR FREE! so what if they didnt completely change it get over it its not going to happen. No other company in the world would do something like this so could all the people bashing them for doing something that is unheard of at least reserve judgement until it is released. Or until then get off the forums and take your games back or throw them in the trash. Its not going to happen so just let it go you are just wasting your keyboards vitality. They are not doing any other dlc until this is released which means no extra gameplay no extra multiplayer nothing. And they are doing it for you. How about some gratitude for once on this god forsaken website.

'Unheard of'? Sorry, but I can point you very quick to The Witcher 1 where all the graphics, VAs etc for the English version got reworked.. And there are plenty of other examples.
'Not doing any other DLC till the release of the free DLC'? Will be pretty quiet today at PAX then since BW doesn't want to talk about the free DLC nor the endings...

@Rest of topic: why be thankfull for something that A) still doesn't fix the amount of plotholes, lorebreakers etc and should have been in the game in the first place?

Modifié par TUHD, 06 avril 2012 - 09:58 .

[evisneffo]

Of course I appreciate the fact that it's happening and that it's free, but putting aside the question of whether or not it addresses the issue, you must realise that the fact that it's free serves as a means of silencing and destroying the opposition.

[leminzplz]

I'm thankful

[HappyBuddha99]

At the very least it'll be better than nothing. I'm curious to see what this extended cut will have.