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[Iwillbeback]

KingDan97 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

I have one...

He's an AI left behind by the first race to make a willing ascension to Reaper status after they were almost wiped out by Synthetics themselves. They spent roughly 500,000 years cleaning up synthetics after they wiped out their creators and decided it was a waste of cultural evolution, therefore they spent a few million years working out the timetable for harvesting and after harvesting organics they wiped out the leftover synthetics. They probably tried making exceptions for species that had apparently worked out differences with synthetics but eventually the synthetics yet again attempted to rise up and destroy their creators and they weren't willing to allow that to happen again. The Catalyst was something they put into the Citadel after creating the Mass Relays system which they used to ensure organic life would not only develop as they preferred but also so that it would stay contained within areas near relays.

At the head of the system was an adaptive AI with one function, protect the future of Organic life the only way it could, by maintaining the positions of the Mass Relay network so that no matter what happened from cycle to cycle the Reapers always knew where they would be.

The fun part is that the knowledge of the locations of the Mass Relays could only be relayed through one reaper. The first Reaper. Harbinger. This is why during the conversations with the catalyst he simultaniously refered to himself as both controlling the Reapers(which, as their leader and the first he did) and being part of them.

BOOOMSPLOSION!

Biggest pile of horse **** I read in a long while.

Please, explain to me what is completely impossible within that? I'd love to hear your dissemination of it.

I will start with the obvious

]He's an AI left behind by the first race 

 Catalyst was something they put into the Citadel

That makes no sense you say he is one thing and then later say he is another thing.
Maintaining the positions of the Relays sounds like a silly retcon you tried to make up.
Only Harbinger can locate them, that is one poor ass excuse.

[Ross42899]

Well,

1) at this point it seems, that it will answer most of my questions
2) it's free

So, if the DLC will be good and indeed answer most of my questions, than the answer is: Yes. I will be thankful.

[mass perfection]

BioWare owes me $60 because of their false advertising.

[KingDan97]

Iwillbeback wrote...

I will start with the obvious

]He's an AI left behind by the first race 

 Catalyst was something they put into the Citadel

That makes no sense you say he is one thing and then later say he is another thing.
Maintaining the positions of the Relays sounds like a silly retcon you tried to make up.
Only Harbinger can locate them, that is one poor ass excuse.

Oh, I see, so they couldn't have left something behind after ascending themselves. Obviously. You said a logical explaination. I made one in a minute.

As to how only Harbinger could discern the positions relayed by the catalyst, it could be a cultural cypher. After all "We are each a nation." 

Obviously though you're set on hating Bioware so I'm not going to humor your insanity anymore. Have fun never being satisfied with anything.

Protip: A minor verbal contradiction =/= a retcon when within a paragraph where no sense of linear time progression is given.

[Eduadinho]

mass perfection wrote...

BioWare owes me $60 because of their false advertising.

Um while not majorly different there are 16 different endings. They don't owe you $60. Return the game if you are so angry.

[Blazingkats]

At this point i doubt they will change the endings atleast the Extended cut will explain the what happens after and i appreciate that it's free.

It would nice if they change the endings but meh i don't care anymore.

[Iwillbeback]

KingDan97 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

I will start with the obvious

]He's an AI left behind by the first race 

 Catalyst was something they put into the Citadel

That makes no sense you say he is one thing and then later say he is another thing.
Maintaining the positions of the Relays sounds like a silly retcon you tried to make up.
Only Harbinger can locate them, that is one poor ass excuse.

Oh, I see, so they couldn't have left something behind after ascending themselves. Obviously. You said a logical explaination. I made one in a minute.

As to how only Harbinger could discern the positions relayed by the catalyst, it could be a cultural cypher. After all "We are each a nation." 

Obviously though you're set on hating Bioware so I'm not going to humor your insanity anymore. Have fun never being satisfied with anything.

Protip: A minor verbal contradiction =/= a retcon when within a paragraph where no sense of linear time progression is given.

You didn't answer any of my points and retconned on your earlier points.

[KingDan97]

Iwillbeback wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

I will start with the obvious

]He's an AI left behind by the first race 

 Catalyst was something they put into the Citadel

That makes no sense you say he is one thing and then later say he is another thing.
Maintaining the positions of the Relays sounds like a silly retcon you tried to make up.
Only Harbinger can locate them, that is one poor ass excuse.

Oh, I see, so they couldn't have left something behind after ascending themselves. Obviously. You said a logical explaination. I made one in a minute.

As to how only Harbinger could discern the positions relayed by the catalyst, it could be a cultural cypher. After all "We are each a nation." 

Obviously though you're set on hating Bioware so I'm not going to humor your insanity anymore. Have fun never being satisfied with anything.

Protip: A minor verbal contradiction =/= a retcon when within a paragraph where no sense of linear time progression is given.

You didn't answer any of my points and retconned on your earlier points.

You are clearly incapable of understanding what "retcon" means, yet again. Done. With. You.

[Iwillbeback]

KingDan97 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

I will start with the obvious

]He's an AI left behind by the first race 

 Catalyst was something they put into the Citadel

That makes no sense you say he is one thing and then later say he is another thing.
Maintaining the positions of the Relays sounds like a silly retcon you tried to make up.
Only Harbinger can locate them, that is one poor ass excuse.

Oh, I see, so they couldn't have left something behind after ascending themselves. Obviously. You said a logical explaination. I made one in a minute.

As to how only Harbinger could discern the positions relayed by the catalyst, it could be a cultural cypher. After all "We are each a nation." 

Obviously though you're set on hating Bioware so I'm not going to humor your insanity anymore. Have fun never being satisfied with anything.

Protip: A minor verbal contradiction =/= a retcon when within a paragraph where no sense of linear time progression is given.

You didn't answer any of my points and retconned on your earlier points.

You are clearly incapable of understanding what "retcon" means, yet again. Done. With. You.

You keep doing it, you sound like a childish brat.
Can't answer anything and tries to make new crap up replacing the old crap.

[ThePanzer99]

Depends on what's in the DLC. If my car has a flat tire and I'm missing a jack and bioware shows up and offers me one for free. Well that's awesome and I obviously need to throw money at them in the future.

But if a wild bioware appears and offers me a free spatula. Thanks? I appreciate the offer, but it doesn't really help me with my problem.

Just because something is free doesn't mean it's valuable or i need to be thankful for it.

Modifié par ThePanzer99, 09 avril 2012 - 12:15 .

[Trell073]

Im quite glad for the free DLC although I wish the rage over the ending would stop or at least die down a little until the actual DLC comes out. I mean it is free DLC so that work they're putting into it is costing time and money they aren't gonna get back.

[Trentgamer]

 If you want to know why people do not like the ending and want it changed completely, here is the best explaination for why and how the ending is broken. No one can even argue against this really. Whether you liked the ending or not, this is definitely worth watching and totally explains why the ending didn't work for most people. 

www.youtube.com/watch

[Darkeus]

Nope.

At least not until it comes out and is satisfactory.... Until then, it is PR Damage Control, just like teh free MP DLC....

[doodiebody]

Frankly I wish it was a paid DLC that changed the ending completely, but meh.

[Volc19]

I'm thankful, but unsure. Hopefully, they actually listen to our complaints, and fix them as well as they can. Though, with all that starchild crap, destroyed relays, and marooned Normandy, I'm skeptical as to how a few extra scenes will fix everything.

They have nothing to gain from this DLC other than the returning loyalty of most the the fanbase. Let's hope they realize that and shell out an apology DLC that will actually fix the problems addressed by the fans. Guide them, Kalihira, mistress of unscruitable depths.

[Riion]

I'm slightly hopeful, but it's waaay too early to tell whether I'm thankful or not. Not gonna count my chickens before the eggs have hatched. Besides, nothing is ever truly free.

[Rick Lewis]

robertm2 wrote...

There is no downside to this really. It costs nothing, adds clarification, and could possible fix the ending that so many people seem to have a problem with. I actually liked the ending but obviously people didnt and they did something about it. FOR FREE! so what if they didnt completely change it get over it its not going to happen. No other company in the world would do something like this so could all the people bashing them for doing something that is unheard of at least reserve judgement until it is released. Or until then get off the forums and take your games back or throw them in the trash. Its not going to happen so just let it go you are just wasting your keyboards vitality. They are not doing any other dlc until this is released which means no extra gameplay no extra multiplayer nothing. And they are doing it for you. How about some gratitude for once on this god forsaken website.

Pretty well sums up my feelings. I was surprised and delighted that Bioware would even make the first two DLC releases free for the fans. I mean we could be forced to pay say 1600 MS points for it. It's a nice offering yet some fans will never be satisfied.

Yes, I didn't like the endings and other aspects of the game but wasn't on a holy cruisade to make it different either. I think it's great that they even bothered to address and meet the most passionate fans at least half way. Maybe I'll hang on to my copy afterall.

[Greed1914]

Riion wrote...

I'm slightly hopeful, but it's waaay too early to tell whether I'm thankful or not. Not gonna count my chickens before the eggs have hatched. Besides, nothing is ever truly free.

Basically, this.  I'll be thankful if it actually helps.  I hope that it will, but I'll reserve any sense of gratitude for if and when the major problems are solved.

[JasonDaPsycho]

I have to thank them for fixing a mistake present in a product that I paid 60 bucks for? Hell no. If anything, they should be apologizing for making promises they could not keep.

[CountDrunku]

doodiebody wrote...

Frankly I wish it was a paid DLC that changed the ending completely, but meh.

Same
But really, if this extended cut cost money . . . would it bother people XD
I mean, how much we talkin'  $5 dollars, $10 dollars, $15 dollars, $20 dollars ?!
I mean, that is a dinner at a resturaunt people, one time meal. It is not a big chunk of change.
What happens when a person doesn't have enough money to pay for something they really want?
They save up money - or get a loan lol XD Some  may ask mommy and daddy . . .

I find it very weird that the DLC is being made in the first place.
I don't see it solving anything XD
Because, people didn't like the ending, how it was presented, and what it implied.
I would love to believe that BioWare thinks everyone could rationalize the outcomes of their choice at the end.
Everyone can think, right?
Right
So . . . if someone believed that the ending wasn't fitting for Mass Effect 3 . . . would they believe the reasons why it was fitting XD
At what point is there a balance in this whole ending problem?
Making a DLC free to me, is a short-term fix to a problem that has roots going back 5 years ago because . . .
that is when this wonderful universe started and it went down, crashing to an end, burning XD
Of course, I believe the end justifies the means. After all, Mordin thought that too . . .

But then cured the genophage

Something is definitely wrong.  Can't everyone feel it . . .
Why wouldn't BioWare state that is the ending? And leave it at that . . .
They flat out said the ending won't be changed . . . so . . . why the DLC?
Everyone knows you can't make everyone happy
I just believe the people who are not happy, this minority . . . is the majority that gives the most feedback XD
I mean, I doubt everyone buys a game and joins the forum of that game, chatting it up.
How else can anyone explain all the backlash?
You type Mass Effect 3 into google and probably this news of fans outraged at ending pops up on the first page.
I've been following since day one.

Everyone adds to the fire.
The people who don't like the ending,
The people who don't like the people not liking the ending,
Someone, who I don't know, that is a big shot apparently, gave an interview on Forbe's and basically called all gamers bitter? That some people are whinning?

The worst thing you could do is fight fire with fire XD
You tell someone to shutup and their opinions don't matter, they get angry.
You tell them their being childlish, they get more angry.

You know what is childlish? Believeing that those dollar bills you buy stuff with actually mean something . . .
They do, because people believe they do, but, they only have value if you place value on them.
Gold on the other hand, there is only so much on the planet, so of course Aliens will come and take it XD
So those cowboy's are pissed >:c

lol

And, right now, people are pissed that BioWare put all other DLC on hold to finish this free DLC to satisfy this minority of people who other people think are whiners and are childlish XD
Irony is a beautiful thing XD

The only thing to ****** off multiplayer people is if the servers go down, then they get out their pitchforks and storm the castles XD

[wesr]

I'd rather pay for a DLC that was more than something so bad they know they can't make a buck off of it and give it for free.

[chester013]

robertm2 wrote...

There is no downside to this really. It costs nothing, adds clarification, and could possible fix the ending that so many people seem to have a problem with. I actually liked the ending but obviously people didnt and they did something about it. FOR FREE! so what if they didnt completely change it get over it its not going to happen. No other company in the world would do something like this so could all the people bashing them for doing something that is unheard of at least reserve judgement until it is released. Or until then get off the forums and take your games back or throw them in the trash. Its not going to happen so just let it go you are just wasting your keyboards vitality. They are not doing any other dlc until this is released which means no extra gameplay no extra multiplayer nothing. And they are doing it for you. How about some gratitude for once on this god forsaken website.

We didn't ask for clarification, we know this POS stinks we don't need to be told why.

[CDHarrisUSF]

Can anyone be thankful for the free dlc?

Masochists, I suppose. I'm sure someone will enjoy being kicked in the balls again.

[Vipus_Locasta]

When a game is released filled with bugs that make it unplayable you don't thank the Developers for fixing it - That's the least it's expected from them. Although ME3 has it's share of game-breaking bugs, it was also released without an ending - and they also haven't addresed this issue.(And when they do most people will aready have lost their interest in the game).

I'll give them the chance to present a new ending to the series. Who knows, they might even make some sense out of that terrible mess Walters and Hudson created. However, even if it ends up being a masterpiece, I will NEVER Pre-order or buy at full price any other Bioware game. I just don't trust them anymore...

[malikstarks2]

Xydorn wrote...

I was pissed at first after reading there announcement today, but now that I have had a chance to cool off a bit and reflect, I've come to the realization that I have trusted Bioware for about 10-15 years now and I need to give them the benefit of the doubt this once. I have faith that they will fix it, especially after reading some of Merizan's tweets.

This, although I haven't been a fan of Bioware games that long. Also at the end of the day it's just a game. They are still putting in extra cost/effort for the fans at no additional charge.

I still totally understand where the re-takers are coming from and still support them as well though.