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[Geneaux486]

D1ck1e wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...

More accurately, thanks for not being arrogant and listening to the feedback fans provided.

So you felt your feedback was answered?

Huh?  Bioware encouraged feedback from their fans, and now they're releasing DLC regarding the ending.  Just because some people aren't getting exactly what they wanted doesn't mean Bioware wasn't listening.

[Phyzzix]

Sublyminal wrote...

No because you can't please crybaby ****es... A lot of them are all like waaaah waaah waaaah we want bioware to completely redo the ending. WAAAAH. I'm pretty ashamed to be associated with that group of radicals, as that was never the focus of Retake.

Unless your ME3 disc had a different set of colorful cutscenes then mine, the ending is filled with too many plotholes as it is to just "clarify" it. Since you seem to be pretty positive they can do it, what's your take on how they explain the Mass Effect drives being destroyed and Joker and random crew ending up on random planet. I'm pretty psyched for a response here.

[stalin931]

Geneaux486 wrote...

More accurately, thanks for not being arrogant and listening to the feedback fans provided.

Wait what? 
Have you actually read the fan feedback thread? The majority of people on there were asking for bioware to completely redo the ending, or at least add others, and only a small section were asking for clarity on the endings because they thought everyone else couldnt understand biowares 'genius' 
Artistic integrity I can appreciate but a genuinely heartfelt response to feedback this isnt.
As for the arrogance part, they still have not even entertained the idea that the endings were badly made/ executed. To me that is rather arrogant.

[Rucent]

I appreciate it - just not enough to pay for a BW/EA product ever again.

[Sundance31us]

killnoob wrote...
not really, have you seen people complaining about how they handle dragon age origin's ending? no, right?
 so why can't they follow the same model for ME3?

" you cannot make everyone happy" is just a lame excuse for not trying hard enough.

Actually they did.

[stalin931]

Phyzzix wrote...

. I'm pretty psyched for a response here.

Dont hold your breath

[Clayless]

stalin931 wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...

More accurately, thanks for not being arrogant and listening to the feedback fans provided.

Wait what? 
Have you actually read the fan feedback thread? The majority of people on there were asking for bioware to completely redo the ending, or at least add others, and only a small section were asking for clarity on the endings because they thought everyone else couldnt understand biowares 'genius' 
Artistic integrity I can appreciate but a genuinely heartfelt response to feedback this isnt.
As for the arrogance part, they still have not even entertained the idea that the endings were badly made/ executed. To me that is rather arrogant.

It's rather ridiculous that you think your opinion trumpts the people who actually made the universe.

[IcyDude]

I'm grateful. But not satisfied.

[Sublyminal]

Phyzzix wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

No because you can't please crybaby ****es... A lot of them are all like waaaah waaah waaaah we want bioware to completely redo the ending. WAAAAH. I'm pretty ashamed to be associated with that group of radicals, as that was never the focus of Retake.

Unless your ME3 disc had a different set of colorful cutscenes then mine, the ending is filled with too many plotholes as it is to just "clarify" it. Since you seem to be pretty positive they can do it, what's your take on how they explain the Mass Effect drives being destroyed and Joker and random crew ending up on random planet. I'm pretty psyched for a response here.

And again, what part of they're expanding onto the endings and giving quite a bit more clarity do you not get? You can't expect them to scrap a whole endings and redo it, just to please you. That's not how this works.

[RebelTitan428]

no, im not excited for some free cinematics.
there is no game play, just cinematics, so we get a free show to BW attempt to claw all their fans back.

...good luck BW, good luck

[xsdob]

I could, but I'd be lumped into the same group as mintycool if I did, and that guy's an ****.

[liggy002]

That depends... will it include any gameplay?  I'm really sad and upset.  I am just about to be done with Bioware.

Modifié par liggy002, 06 avril 2012 - 01:12 .

[chevyguy87]

If the DLC does not address my concerns and questions and gives me a sense of accomplishment then I don't care if the whole goddamn game was free.

[TJX2045]

 I am actually one of those people who is thankful that they are even giving us DLC after explaining they want to keep the endings in tact.

Whether or not I am satisfied depends on when the DLC is released.  If I am not satisfied I will shrug and play Skyrim, and whenever I get distracted by bells and whistles for a video game I will have a Nord "Fus Roh Dah" some sense into me and remind me of the Mass Effect 3 ending with the added on DLC.

Modifié par TJX2045, 06 avril 2012 - 01:14 .

[FemmeShep]

I'm not making any personal statements here.

But the way I see it, most did not want clarification of the ending. So it's hard for them to feel thankful for something they didn't ask for.

Have you ever been given a really bad gift at Christmas? Like an itchy sweater? Are you thankful to your loved one for getting it...sure. Do you like it? No. So on that level, you aren't truly thankful for it.

[Darthbill52]

FemmeShep wrote...

I'm not making any personal statements here.

But the way I see it, most did not want clarification of the ending. So it's hard for them to feel thankful for something they didn't ask for.

Have you ever been given a really bad gift at Christmas? Like an itchy sweater? Are you thankful to your loved one for getting it...sure. Do you like it? No. So on that level, you aren't truly thankful for it.

That is the best simile I have heard about this .. All Day


Bravo Femmeshep !!

[Shiran]

stalin931 wrote...

Geneaux486 wrote...

More accurately, thanks for not being arrogant and listening to the feedback fans provided.

Wait what? 
Have you actually read the fan feedback thread? The majority of people on there were asking for bioware to completely redo the ending, or at least add others, and only a small section were asking for clarity on the endings because they thought everyone else couldnt understand biowares 'genius' 
Artistic integrity I can appreciate but a genuinely heartfelt response to feedback this isnt.
As for the arrogance part, they still have not even entertained the idea that the endings were badly made/ executed. To me that is rather arrogant.

They don't need to redo anything. It's their work, its their story. You, as consumer, have a right to not buy it, but they abosultely should not kowtow to tyranny of the very vocal minority.

Clarification is perfect, because there are a few questions that do need to be answered, main one being why was Normandy in FTL travel, and where did it crash.

[Sublyminal]

FemmeShep wrote...

I'm not making any personal statements here.

But the way I see it, most did not want clarification of the ending. So it's hard for them to feel thankful for something they didn't ask for.

Have you ever been given a really bad gift at Christmas? Like an itchy sweater? Are you thankful to your loved one for getting it...sure. Do you like it? No. So on that level, you aren't truly thankful for it.

Then in my eyes and in the eyes of others, you're ungrateful. Simply put.  As I have stated numerous times, BW didn't have to give us anything period, I'd rather have an itchy sweater than nothing at all.

Modifié par Sublyminal, 06 avril 2012 - 01:15 .

[MicMaky]

It is impossible to clarify upon something as flawed as this ending

[FemmeShep]

Sublyminal wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

I'm not making any personal statements here.

But the way I see it, most did not want clarification of the ending. So it's hard for them to feel thankful for something they didn't ask for.

Have you ever been given a really bad gift at Christmas? Like an itchy sweater? Are you thankful to your loved one for getting it...sure. Do you like it? No. So on that level, you aren't truly thankful for it.

Then in my eyes and in the eyes of others, you're ungrateful. Simply put.  As I have stated numerous times, BW didn't have to give us anything period.

Sure, but I'm being honest.  And truth be told, no one is truly grateful for an itchy sweater.

It's the thought that counts but you still hate the gift. Also, you don't pay for your gift, so you shouldn't expect anything. People paid for this, and had reasonable expectations off of what was promised. I think you are missing the part where, BioWare promised certain things about the game, and lied about it. And so, they aren't addressing those complaints (which IMO was the biggest complaint about the endings) - and instead, are just clarifying their ending.

Is it a nice gesture? Sure. Is it what people wanted? No.

So why would you expect people to be happy or grateful for something they didn't want. Again, it would be different if BioWare hadn't lied about the game, and people didn't pay for the game under the assumption they would get what they were promised.

Modifié par FemmeShep, 06 avril 2012 - 01:18 .

[stalin931]

[/quote]
 rather ridiculous that you think your opinion trumpts the people who actually made the universe.[/quote]

I don' t  not by any stretch of the imagination and I appologise if thats how I sounded. What I meant was that if you were a developer and I saw the amount of negative feedback concerning the endings, surely you would have the teeniest amount of self doubt over the quality of the endings? That however is not the impression I got from the press release. It sounded like they thought we simply hadnt 'got it' rather han entertain the thought that they had made part of a game that was bad.

[liggy002]

robertm2 wrote...

There is no downside to this really. It costs nothing, adds clarification, and could possible fix the ending that so many people seem to have a problem with. I actually liked the ending but obviously people didnt and they did something about it. FOR FREE! so what if they didnt completely change it get over it its not going to happen. No other company in the world would do something like this so could all the people bashing them for doing something that is unheard of at least reserve judgement until it is released. Or until then get off the forums and take your games back or throw them in the trash. Its not going to happen so just let it go you are just wasting your keyboards vitality. They are not doing any other dlc until this is released which means no extra gameplay no extra multiplayer nothing. And they are doing it for you. How about some gratitude for once on this god forsaken website.

Right... I am thankful that they didn't listen to their fans.  I'm thankful that they cut out Harbinger and aren't going to give me any extra gameplay with him.  Additional cinematics aren't enough and they know it, but it seems that they are too arrogant to see that.  No other company in the world would do that?  Bethesda did it and Bioware isn't half the company they are.  They could at least have the integrity to tell me right off the bat if there is going to be any gameplay.  It doesn't sound like it.  I've wasted my time with this series and I am done wasting my time.

Modifié par liggy002, 06 avril 2012 - 01:19 .

[l0wn3r]

I am truly grateful.

[Sublyminal]

the_geo_law wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

No because you can't please crybaby ****es... A lot of them are all like waaaah waaah waaaah we want bioware to completely redo the ending. WAAAAH. I'm pretty ashamed to be associated with that group of radicals, as that was never the focus of Retake.

You dont deserve to wear that Tali icon.

Those be fighting words, Krogan.

Modifié par Sublyminal, 06 avril 2012 - 01:18 .