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[lx_theo]

Simply this, what do suppose the chances are we'll see the next Dragon Age game on next gen Console Hardware, like the Playstation and Xbox successors?

They talked about need to pull people off working on the Exalted March to work on something else. Maybe this something else is making is the engine for the new system or something along those lines?

Just an idea though, curious if people would be supportive of this at all should they do this also.

[Dejajeva]

I doubt it because xbox720 at least won't even be announced till 2013 at the earliest, so rumor has it. Could be wrong. Guess we should know more tomorrow!

[Maria Caliban]

It could be something other than DA III, yes.

[Eudaemonium]

It's DAII-2, following in the vein of the most successful Final Fantasies. Time travel and/or magical girls and insectoid afterlife cannons may be involved.

[Helena Tylena]

Eudaemonium wrote...

It's DAII-2, following in the vein of the most successful Final Fantasies. Time travel and/or magical girls and insectoid afterlife cannons may be involved.

*gives all my money*

[Korusus]

Dejajeva wrote...

I doubt it because xbox720 at least won't even be announced till 2013 at the earliest, so rumor has it. Could be wrong. Guess we should know more tomorrow!

All the better in my opinion.  Any excuse to extend EA's completely unreasonable development time table.

I'd much rather BioWare develop a DA3 for next gen consoles to be released 2 to 3 years from now, than try and rush a DA3 at the apex of the current gen in the next year.  What's more likely to result in a well-developed, high production value game?  And which is like to result in another Kirkwall.

[berelinde]

It's definitely possible that "The Next Thing ™" will be more than just DA3, but I sincerely hope that it isn't something console-centric. I'm not being all PC-elitist here. I don't own a console and don't have any intention of getting one. I can justify the expense of buying a computer every 5-8 years, but a console...

Modifié par berelinde, 06 avril 2012 - 03:10 .

[lx_theo]

berelinde wrote...

It's definitely possible that "The Next Thing ™" will be more than just DA3, but I sincerely hope that it isn't something console-centric. I'm not being all PC-elitist here. I don't own a console and don't have any intention of getting one. I can justify the expense of buying a computer every 5-8 years, but a console...

I'm not sayingit wouldn't be only on the consoles. I''m saying that DA3 may be released on the next gen consoles. Which is good for PC, since they'll be more powerful.

[Helena Tylena]

lx_theo wrote...

berelinde wrote...

It's definitely possible that "The Next Thing ™" will be more than just DA3, but I sincerely hope that it isn't something console-centric. I'm not being all PC-elitist here. I don't own a console and don't have any intention of getting one. I can justify the expense of buying a computer every 5-8 years, but a console...

I'm not sayingit wouldn't be only on the consoles. I''m saying that DA3 may be released on the next gen consoles. Which is good for PC, since they'll be more powerful.

True. Current-gen consoles being outdated have held back PC gaming for a few years now. Despite the fact that I've never owned a console in my life, and most likely won't for quite some time, I'm very excited for the next generation of gaming consoles simply for this reason.

EDIT: That said, I hope developers start making their games for different platforms simultaneously, rather than developing for one (usually consoles), then making a poor port for the other (usually PCs). We have a mouse and four directional keys, we don't need radial interfaces, to give but one, more forgivable example.

Modifié par Helena Tylena, 06 avril 2012 - 03:55 .

[CuriousArtemis]

I think this hope is a little selfish; not everyone will have the funds to rush out and buy a brand new nex gen console. Some of us (like me) bought cheap, refurbished consoles and hope to get as much out of them as possible.

[lx_theo]

motomotogirl wrote...

I think this hope is a little selfish; not everyone will have the funds to rush out and buy a brand new nex gen console. Some of us (like me) bought cheap, refurbished consoles and hope to get as much out of them as possible.

I don't see it as selfish, only moving on. If its not within you or other's funds... Well, there's not much anyone can do about that. The generation has been going on for quite some time now.

With the rumors of companies having started their next gen projects late last year or early this year, I get the impression that there's a decent chance of this happening. Either its released as an early game on the next consoles, or its released in the last year or so of the current console generation. If its any earlier, I'd be largely suspect of the development time.

[Helena Tylena]

motomotogirl wrote...

I think this hope is a little selfish; not everyone will have the funds to rush out and buy a brand new nex gen console. Some of us (like me) bought cheap, refurbished consoles and hope to get as much out of them as possible.

I'm really sorry to say this, but gaming systems and consoles remain a luxury product. There's nothing wrong with being unable to afford the latest and greatest, but don't demand the entire industry lags behind its full potential because of it.

If anything, look at it this way: the sooner the next generation of consoles comes out, the sooner they'll be reduced in price and become affordable.

[Brockololly]

Dejajeva wrote...

I doubt it because xbox720 at least won't even be announced till 2013 at the earliest, so rumor has it. Could be wrong. Guess we should know more tomorrow!

I'm guessing the fact that they killed the DA2 expansion means the "Next Big Thing" would have to be th enext big iteration of DA, meaning DA3 presumably.


I am probably just most curious as to when they're targeting the release date for it, considering we're in the tail end of this console life cycle. I guess conventional wisdom would be that it'll come out March 2013, or first quarter 2013, like ME2, DA2, and ME3 have. But would that leave them much time to actually make a decent game, considering how DA2 was rushed out the door? Or are they perhaps planning on DA3 being a launch game for the next gen of consoles in late 2013? I've also read some rumors that even if MS or Sony don't officially unveil the consoles this year at E3, we might see some companies showing off their next gen titles regardless.

[The Elder King]

Brockololly wrote...

Dejajeva wrote...

I doubt it because xbox720 at least won't even be announced till 2013 at the earliest, so rumor has it. Could be wrong. Guess we should know more tomorrow!

I'm guessing the fact that they killed the DA2 expansion means the "Next Big Thing" would have to be th enext big iteration of DA, meaning DA3 presumably.


I am probably just most curious as to when they're targeting the release date for it, considering we're in the tail end of this console life cycle. I guess conventional wisdom would be that it'll come out March 2013, or first quarter 2013, like ME2, DA2, and ME3 have. But would that leave them much time to actually make a decent game, considering how DA2 was rushed out the door? Or are they perhaps planning on DA3 being a launch game for the next gen of consoles in late 2013? I've also read some rumors that even if MS or Sony don't officially unveil the consoles this year at E3, we might see some companies showing off their next gen titles regardless.

That would be good for the next DA game, because they may release it in the late 2013-early 2014, having a longer development cycle that in my opinion is needed for an RPG.

[Deviija]

I do not think DA3 will be on the new Xbox or next-gen consoles, no. Mayhaps DA4.

[lx_theo]

Deviija wrote...


I do not think DA3 will be on the new Xbox or next-gen consoles, no. Mayhaps DA4.

You have a reason for that? Because saying you don't adds nothing the conversation.

[Uccio]

PC, its the only way to go.

[Pzykozis]

This was my thought when they said they needed to pull their team onto this next thing, would imply that this next thing is important and already has a strict release window, launch title for next gen maybe?

bound to be wrong, but even so hopefully it'll have a longer dev cycle regardless.

[Sinuphro]

lx_theo wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

I think this hope is a little selfish; not everyone will have the funds to rush out and buy a brand new nex gen console. Some of us (like me) bought cheap, refurbished consoles and hope to get as much out of them as possible.

I don't see it as selfish, only moving on. If its not within you or other's funds... Well, there's not much anyone can do about that. The generation has been going on for quite some time now.

With the rumors of companies having started their next gen projects late last year or early this year, I get the impression that there's a decent chance of this happening. Either its released as an early game on the next consoles, or its released in the last year or so of the current console generation. If its any earlier, I'd be largely suspect of the development time.

lol it seems ppl these days are lacking common sense. I will have to explain to you why it would be stupid to move the dragon age series to the next gen console as it comes out.

With all the economic hardship going on in this world and your age you should know better; maybe you are like that republican Mitt Romney that is out of touch with the lives of ordinary people.

Ultimately, if the DA series is moved to the next gen console that immediately came out....bioware and EA will lose ALOT of money. Why? Because the majority of ppl wait at least 2 to 3 years for the price of the new console to drop before buying it.

Lets see...lets say bioware and EA spent 7 million dollars to produce DA series for a next gen console that was out less than 6 months ago. When they release the game guess how many consumers that they would have?? Lets say somehow 1 million ppl bought the new next gen console....are you telling me that all 1 million ppl that bought the new console would like rpg games??

And last point; do not forget the negative things that bioware and EA had done to their main consumer base. These days lots of ppl would be more likely to rent a game 1st before buying it. So...if 1 million ppl bought the next gen console and 2/3 of the ppl refuse to purchase the new dragon age series, the net profit bioware and ea recieves from performing such a stupid action would be in the negatives. Smart business men would not be willing to take this risk.

[lx_theo]

Sinuphro wrote...
lol it seems ppl these days are lacking common sense. I will have to explain to you why it would be stupid to move the dragon age series to the next gen console as it comes out.

With all the economic hardship going on in this world and your age you should know better; maybe you are like that republican Mitt Romney that is out of touch with the lives of ordinary people.

Did you really just go adn call me disconnected from the real world? ... Dude, I'm no Republican. Don't be an ***, please.

Ultimately, if the DA series is moved to the next gen console that immediately came out....bioware and EA will lose ALOT of money. Why? Because the majority of ppl wait at least 2 to 3 years for the price of the new console to drop before buying it.

First of all, there's always the option of developing to have low and high setting, like they do regularly on PCs. That way, they could develop the low settings at a level the old consoles could handle, and the high/medium settings the new consoles could handle (medium because there could be another high setting id they choose to pander to the PC elitists).

Main point, it isn't as big of a problem as you think, and there are simple work arounds. Not to mention it'd be realeased on the PC as well, so people don't even need a new console if they didn't make it for both.

Lets see...lets say bioware and EA spent 7 million dollars to produce DA series for a next gen console that was out less than 6 months ago. When they release the game guess how many consumers that they would have?? Lets say somehow 1 million ppl bought the new next gen console....are you telling me that all 1 million ppl that bought the new console would like rpg games??

Think about this... At some point or another, they will have to be making the changes to their engine and such to make that jump to the new consoles. Given the time frame we have, and the devlopment cycle most would make doing it for DA3 be a reasonable time for Bioware to decide to start it. 

Also, being an early release title means it has less competition. increasing sales. A last note. A LOT more people than 1 million will have bought next gen consoles by that point. and I mean A LOT more.

And last point; do not forget the negative things that bioware and EA had done to their main consumer base. These days lots of ppl would be more likely to rent a game 1st before buying it. So...if 1 million ppl bought the next gen console and 2/3 of the ppl refuse to purchase the new dragon age series, the net profit bioware and ea recieves from performing such a stupid action would be in the negatives. Smart business men would not be willing to take this risk.

I'm pretty sure the business model would be to encourage more people to buy it instead of getting them to rent it. This isn't a huge point anyways, since the renting stuff doesn't apply to nearly as many people as you seem to think. People are more likely to act on the reaction to the early players of the game (especially the people who'd rent it). So its a matter of them making it a really good game, and has nothing to do with what console its released on.

[FrostyLazer]

Q1 2013 would be a good time for the expansion pack. Sinds they canceled that one my quess is they need more time than that for DA3 to finish.

Looking at the time they took for the canceled expansion pack (and my quess is it wasn't close to be finished because if it was they would have realeased it). For any new full game they need mutch more time. My quess is Q1 2014 at the earlyest

[LolaLei]

Man that would be a wait and a half wouldn't it!

[SeanMurphy2]

I doubt it.

It seems cheaper and easier to reuse the same engine. And focus on improving the design flaws on DA2. Rather than struggle with the technology challenges of new consoles.

IMO DA2 was not held back by the constraints of current gen technology. It was more due to design choices and design flaws. So can't see the benefit of massive investment in launching on new hardware. Eg more benefit in embracing DA:O art style than better graphics technology.

[PsychoBlonde]

Korusus wrote...

Dejajeva wrote...

I doubt it because xbox720 at least won't even be announced till 2013 at the earliest, so rumor has it. Could be wrong. Guess we should know more tomorrow!

All the better in my opinion.  Any excuse to extend EA's completely unreasonable development time table.

I'd much rather BioWare develop a DA3 for next gen consoles to be released 2 to 3 years from now, than try and rush a DA3 at the apex of the current gen in the next year.  What's more likely to result in a well-developed, high production value game?  And which is like to result in another Kirkwall.

Not only that, but the console developers will benefit greatly if there are some highly-anticipated games coming out right when the next-gen consoles hit the shelves.  I'd include DA3 in this category even though it doesn't have the market share you'd see out of, say, Grand Theft Modern Battlefield Gears of Duty or whatever the hell it's called. I would not be surprised if development tools for the next-gen stuff starts going out THIS YEAR.  Sony and Microsoft ought to be racing to see who can get theirs out first so they can hopefully get at least a few hot third-party games as effective exclusives for the new platforms.

And, of course, if they can manage having PS3 and Xbox360 games be playable on the new platforms . . .  Granted if architecture changes hugely, this may be impossible.  But it might make a huge market difference if, say, one of them can manage it but the other can't.

Or maybe, just maybe, Nintendo will pull some high-end hardware out of its ass and actually have a great new entree in the new console generation.