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I don't care what anyone says, IT theory is true....


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BiancoAngelo7

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I just has to be. There is too much evidence pointing to it, in the game, the google doc, Ms. (Mrs.?) Merizan's tweets, etc etc.

I know people (both trolls and people in good faith) will tell me that I am just delusional and in denial...especially after today's announcement...and I accept your opinion (not you trolls, I hate you...just the good faith people etc)

But I just cannot believe that IT is not true unless Bioware comes out and says "IT theory is not true. End of story" or the dlc comes out and turns out to be as soul crushingly retarded as it sounds it is.

I just cannot believe on top of all the circumstantial evidence given to us, that the upper ups at Bioware (Muzyka etc) signed off on the craptastic finale to their flagship franchise.

I cannot believe their answer today of basically "we "listened" to you telling us our endings sucked, so we decided to tell you why they don't suck".

I know that I am probably wrong, I know that the ME franchise is, in all logical probabilty, ruined for me and tens of thousands (at least) of other fans.

Yet I will keep hope alive unless they come out and say "no this is not true" or if the dlc comes out and sucks as hard as it sounds it will.

The one thing I am glad in all of this is that I didn't buy my own copy of ME3, it is the one thing that gives me solace, as little and overshadowed by the ending that it is. I was overseas for work when it came out, and when I got back one of my friends basically gave up his copy to lend it to me so apathetically I was almost convinced he was kidding, but then he said "the ending will kill Mass Effect for you" and I didn't know what to think...at the time.

I have to hope. I hope because Commander Shepard deserves better. I hope because my crew and my LI deserve better. The Mass Effect universe deserves better. And most importantly....

we deserve better.

And when the DLC comes out, if it is just a clarification telling us why we should like the broken, nonsensical and lackluster ending we got, then alas, I will just part ways with Bioware, I will never buy from them again, put it behind me and just pretend it never happened. I really don't care if I sound like I'm exaggerating when I say this, but to me the Mass Effect experience was a bit like a video game "first true love", in the sense that it was the first video game I ever played to truly bring me into its universe in more ways than one, and to make the story mine. The ending essentially could be comparable to getting dumped by said "first love" with a vague explanation like "it's not you, it's me" and nothing more.

(and lemme save the trolls out there some hassle and tell you that I have a girlfriend, I don't consider a video game my girlfriend. :mellow:)

...(no matter how hot some of the LI's are ;))

So if the dlc does come out to be nothing more than Bioware telling us why the ending is as great as they say it is, then I will just take this experience and let it make me stronger, and move on with the rest of my life. Because honestly, (and I don't want to sound like a braggart) I have much, much more important things, both in my professional and personal life going on than a video game, but Mass Effect was that one thing that really told me "wait, don't just move on with your life and forget about games, games can contribute to your life as more than just mindless entertainment".

Sadly, if the dlc comes out as it is described at the moment, then this will no longer be true for me, so that will be that.

Thus, I kindle the flame that burns in my chest and defiantly say " I believe in IT theory, I don't care what others say or think, the evidence and my gut tell me it's what the truth is, and more importantly, the state of the game and my gut tell me that it is what the truth should be."

To all those who ...somehow...are happy with the way things are right now...I'm happy for you, although completely baffled by your contentedness at the state of things right now...

To Bioware and EA, of course I am just one fan, so my admittedly humble personal opinion is that if IT theory is not true, and all this is just "the way it is", then all I have to say, in a very cold and objective manner, with no rage or disrespect intended, is that both Bioware and EA should be embarassed with how they ruined ME for so many in so little time, and in some cases, (with what would be out right lies if IT theory is not true) they should also be ashamed of lying to fans just to get them to buy the game without knowing what was waiting for them...lurking....ready to ruin 5 years of storytelling in 10 minutes.

So there it is. I hope I didn't sound too exaggerated or arrogant, and that my point came across politely.

Here's hoping and I thank you for indulging my post of defiance and desperate faith, faith for a proper conclusion to the ME trilogy, faith in the fans who ask for what was promised, faith in Bioware for doing what's right.

Modifié par BiancoAngelo7, 06 avril 2012 - 02:51 .


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Blastback

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I want to believe.

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FlashedMyDrive

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That'll do pig, that'll do.

Modifié par FlashedMyDrive, 06 avril 2012 - 02:48 .


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I didn't really read your entire post. But I read your title, and based on that..Bingo!

Modifié par OozesAwesome, 06 avril 2012 - 02:48 .


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$20 says the "explanation" is a fast text scroll saying "Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by a slowly expanding trollface.

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I am surprised just how wide the bubble of denial is with some people.

They said what they were going to do for weeks now, they are doing it. End of story.

You will never reach grief followed by acceptance if you remain in that bubble. You need to pop it sooner rather than later, Bioware have poked it with pins and sticks but you still remain in the bubble... Time to come out now.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 06 avril 2012 - 02:50 .


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BiancoAngelo7

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FlashedMyDrive wrote...

That'll do pig, that'll do.


*salutes*

^_^

Modifié par BiancoAngelo7, 06 avril 2012 - 02:56 .


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o Ventus wrote...

$20 says the "explanation" is a fast text scroll saying "Shepard was indoctrinated" followed by a slowly expanding trollface.

I lol'd at this mental image.

Last message on the screen is "Buy moar DLC to find out what happens next."

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I am a little bit disappointed in their dlc coming out they had so much with the IT to go on with. but i shall leave my judgement for when it comes out.

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I wish it were true.

But it seems less and less likely.

Unfortunate... This was a jail free card IMO. But instead the free DLC is an "extended cut" and that doesn't sound like something good... Or could it be? Doubtful.

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The IT cannot explain many things. Saying '' it's a dream because it doesn't make sense'' is not an argument.

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Still hoping they're going for a really long troll. Because if they aren't, it'll be really sad to leave my favorite developer behind as a husk of its former self.

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You guys do realize that if IT is true then they:

A. Sold you an incomplete and rushed game

or

B. Just cribbed a fan theory as their own so that they could cover their asses.

Any which way, it does not say much for the integrity of the company....

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Indoctrination Theory was never more than desperate, wishful thinking. Would it really be that much better if the ending was "IT WAS A DREAM ALL ALONG HUHUHU"? I think no.

I've made my peace. This is the ending, this is what happens, it sucks but life sucks sometimes. The most I wanted was context (what they say they're granting), explanation (also advertised), and an epilogue (advertised). The top requests that weren't unrealistic involved getting one or two of these things, something, ANYTHING that explains wtf just happened and what impact it all has on the universe post-Crucible; and if Bioware is taking some months to put together something that's more than a slide show, well, it's more than I expected.

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The Indoctrination theory makes *more* sense than tking the ending at face value, but come on. "It was all a dream"? That's a horrible ending in of itself. I can't believe people even consider that to be ideal...

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batlin wrote...

The Indoctrination theory makes *more* sense than tking the ending at face value, but come on. "It was all a dream"? That's a horrible ending in of itself. I can't believe people even consider that to be ideal...



Desperation will do at lot of things to a logical mind.

People were desperate to make sense of the endings, so they grasped at as many straws as they could and made a theory that filled in the blanks that EA/Bioware left....

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Hell, by "clarify" maybe they'll just roll with the IT theory, leave us with the cliffhanger breath and make another game. I wouldn't be surprised.

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It's one thing to make sense another to make sense and realizing you paid for an incomplete game and that the ending was a dream sequence? Once you come to this realization IT backers will get over it quick.

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BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

I just has to be. There is too much evidence pointing to it, in the game, the google doc, Ms. (Mrs.?) Merizan's tweets, etc etc.


I don't believe there is. Where does that leave me?

What I find interesting is that a lot of effort has been put into finding all these subtle clues and pieces of evidence and yet none of the statements made so far have been analyzed in the same way. For instance, take today's latest statement on how the DLC would include "cinematic sequences" and "epilogue scenes." I take that to mean there won't be gameplay involved and yet a lot of people have countered, "where does it say that?" Well, if I were to ask the same about IT, "where does it say in the game Shepard has been indoctrinated?" what would the answer be, I wonder? On the other hand, vague tweets have been used to support IT. Which info is considered valid then and which isn't? Why isn't the same filter applied to every bit of data that comes our way?

Food for thought.;)

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D24O wrote...

Hell, by "clarify" maybe they'll just roll with the IT theory, leave us with the cliffhanger breath and make another game. I wouldn't be surprised.


Honestly at this point even that would be more acceptable to me than the sorry state of things right now...

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Regardless of what Bioware says, I still think IT is the only rational ending that has been put forward for the end of the game. I"m sticking with it!

Modifié par Ericus, 06 avril 2012 - 03:53 .


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As nice as a Indoctrination Theory would be there is nothing to support it, I just finished the game for a second time about 5 minutes ago and there is very little if any evidence that would point to Shepard being indoctrinated. Although it has always confused me as to how he can come in contact with so much reaper tech and NOT be but oh well.

One major reason IT is doubtful was the Proth VI announcing indoctrinated presence detected long after it had talked to Shepard. If he was Indoctrinated why wouldn't it do it immediately?

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VolusvsReaper wrote...

As nice as a Indoctrination Theory would be there is nothing to support it, I just finished the game for a second time about 5 minutes ago and there is very little if any evidence that would point to Shepard being indoctrinated. Although it has always confused me as to how he can come in contact with so much reaper tech and NOT be but oh well.

One major reason IT is doubtful was the Proth VI announcing indoctrinated presence detected long after it had talked to Shepard. If he was Indoctrinated why wouldn't it do it immediately?


Dude no evidence?

Have you read the google doc? Or watched the vid on youtube?...

www.youtube.com/watch

docs.google.com/document/d/1QT4IUepvrU1pfv_B95oQj0H84DlCTUmzQ_uQh1voTUs/preview

I can understand and respect someone's opinion who says they don't agree or believe in IT, but if ou are rational or fair minded, you can't say that there is NO evidence...:?

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Indoc theory is toast... the quicker you realize that, the faster you'll get over this mess.

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FlashedMyDrive wrote...

That'll do pig, that'll do.

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Modifié par jtrook, 06 avril 2012 - 04:16 .